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Lying in the sponsorship documentation, what can happen ??

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Over reacting?...really....our file sat for 9 months and no one touched it, as per the case notes, I wonder how many cases were worked on that people did not disclose info?..cases with people trying to get away with something...my mother has Alzheimers's and my daughter is going to have my first grandchild in January...by the time we get to the interview in Nov CIC will have had our application for 19 months..again we had an approved TRP/Rehab that has taken 3 years to get and sent in the PR with still a year and half left on the TRP and you think I am over reacting ..not in the least I have no use for people for lie here or anywhere life and again as a Canadian I am sick of people take advantage of the broken Canadian immigration system...
I am really sorry about your mother(not sure how her illness relates to PR app) and extreme long wait time, but it seems that you are trying to blame everyone for *hiding* something as the reason. I don't know the details and its not any of my business, but it seems your situation is not a straight forward one for CIC. They are extremely bureaucratic and love to make people wait. There are lots of people with denied applications (please read appeal thread), and you only have an interview (which will probably go OK with no issues). Trust me, none of the people on this board have it easy.
 
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I never did I say that anyone has it easy and for that reason I get really angry when someone omits/lies/"forgot" inorder to get a head in anything...I am not blaming anyone for anything other then the CIC system which is broken...there is not one business in the free world that would allow a Case Managers workload sit for 9 months..Lies/Ommission make it hard on everyone becuase they are cases that should not even be worked ...I do not have one iota of sympathy for someone that knows they were wrong, apparently this person knows this because they are feeling bad after 10 years...I find it hard that the ones that are 100% honest get delayed and liars appear to win..So if you read anything else into my post then so be it...there are too many honest people working to get into Canada to have losers that lie fill a broken system...
 
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Sunset0505 said:
I find it hard that the ones that are 100% honest get delayed and liars appear to win
so true :mad:
 

brocas

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you are right... this person never had any problems whatsoever .. but he is always looking over his shoulder..
 

nislam

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Hi,
My relative came canada Dec 2005 he was married in June 2004 and a son DOB June 2005.
He did not declared wife and son at the landing or later. Year 2017 he divorced his wife at home country.the whole story has reported to Canada Immigration authority.Wife and son not in Canada.

Question is.
1)Can wife and son get justice from CIC.2) husband will be punish
 

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1)Can wife and son get justice from CIC.2) husband will be punish
  1. what sort of "justice" are you expecting from them? If IRCC does anything, they certainly won't let the wife and son know what's going on. It has nothing to do with them in the eyes of Canadian law.
  2. That is entirely up to IRCC to decide if they wish to pursue the matter. They may choose to review his status, they may not. They may just flag his file, based on the report, and review it when he renews his PR or applies for citizenship. Really difficult to say. One thing for certain is they won't tell the wife or child anything that is going on.
 
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Hi,
My relative came canada Dec 2005 he was married in June 2004 and a son DOB June 2005.
He did not declared wife and son at the landing or later. Year 2017 he divorced his wife at home country.the whole story has reported to Canada Immigration authority.Wife and son not in Canada.

Question is.
1)Can wife and son get justice from CIC.2) husband will be punish
It will be up to CIC whether they take action against him. It's possible CIC may do something and also quite possible they may do nothing because of how long ago he immigrated. I suspect they will do nothing and he will be allowed to keep his PR status.
 

nislam

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As per act 5 year ban and remove from Canada was written. Its a crime .An women with a children has involved with this case.Its totally injustice by the husband who live in Canada. I believe IRCC will uphold the interest an innocent women and children.If the justice will not established some one will find a solution by giving divorce his wife throughout children.husband came in canada 2005.last 12 years he was ok.all legal doc was ok.joint bank account.marriage certificate.family photograph a serize if doc submited to ircc.ircc confirmed by replying.
 
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As per act 5 year ban and remove from Canada was written. Its a crime .An women with a children has involved with this case.Its totally injustice by the husband who live in Canada. I believe IRCC will uphold the interest an innocent women and children.If the justice will not established some one will find a solution by giving divorce his wife throughout children.husband came in canada 2005.last 12 years he was ok.all legal doc was ok.joint bank account.marriage certificate.family photograph a serize if doc submited to ircc.ircc confirmed by replying.
I'm not clear what 'crime' or 'injustice' you think involves 'the interest of an innocent woman'? The husband committed misrepresentation when he landed, claiming to be single when he wasn't. That means he could never sponsor his wife or child, and he could lose his PR status if they find out, and he has further dealings with CIC. He has now divorced his wife, so he wouldn't be trying to sponsor her anyway. Which means the only outstanding issue are the undeclared child who can't be sponsored (and doesn't sound like he want to), and the misrepresentation on app/landing (which was wrong, although he has now almost put himself in the position he claimed to be in).

So.... what do you want to happen?
 
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nislam

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For Misrepresentation 5 year Ban and removed from Canada, it was mentioned in the website of IRCC. Particularly this case has informed to IRCC with details .Is there any chances to consider wife and children to allow in Canada by IRCC as a special case as they victim by the husband in Canada.Husband almost 12 years living in Canada.I believe regulatory body of IRCC will consider the issue sympathetically as a children is involved.
 
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Is there any chances to consider wife and children to allow in Canada by IRCC as a special case as they victim by the husband in Canada.Husband almost 12 years living in Canada.I believe regulatory body of IRCC will consider the issue sympathetically as a children is involved.
No - there is no chance CIC will grant PR to the wife and children.

CIC will do one of two things:
(1) Nothing
(2) Revoke the husband's PR status for misrepresentation
 
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nislam

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For Misrepresentation 5 year Ban and removed from Canada, it was mentioned in the website of IRCC. Particularly this case has informed to IRCC with details .Is there any chances to consider wife and children to allow in Canada by IRCC as a special case as they victim by the husband in Canada.Husband almost 12 years living in Canada.I believe regulatory body of IRCC will consider the issue sympathetically as a children is involved.
No - there is no chance CIC will grant PR to the wife and children.

CIC will do one of two things:
(1) Nothing
(2) Revoke the husband's PR status for misrepresentation
 

nislam

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hi, Thanks,

1)Can IRCC forced to husband to sponsor wife and children aiming to save the children future along with wife.(that is, either sponsor your wife and children you will get rid-off from misrepresentation and reunification family or pack up your baggage to deportation from Canada )

2)How you assumed IRCC will do nothing (however, option (2) also you mentioned) because they have the mandate in the website (its a crime,5 yeas ban,revoke citizenship,deport from Canada ............ and also IRCC encouraging to inform them regarding Immigration fraud @Citizenship-fraud-tips@cic.gc.ca. ).

Yes, IRCC has certain commitment to people of the world with ethic and norms and as it is The Canada where protect children and women's interest by the state.So I am positive minded.
 

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1)Can IRCC forced to husband to sponsor wife and children aiming to save the children future along with wife.(that is, either sponsor your wife and children you will get rid-off from misrepresentation and reunification family or pack up your baggage to deportation from Canada )
Absolutely not. Big no to this question. IRCC cannot force the husband. Sir, you already had your questions answered, why do you keep insisting? The answers were very clear. If they do nothing at this point, my guess would be that it is because they have bigger priorities. After all, they would have to prove that he committed misrepresentation, and that would take resources (money) that probably the government isn't very keen on spending.
Again, forget about it. There is absolutely no chance that the wife and the daughter will get PR. Canada is a good country indeed, and protects children and women's interests, but this woman and child are foreigners, so they don't have any Canadian privileges.
The answer to your questions were very clear and those are the same answers you will be getting if you keep asking the same questions. I suggest if you don't have other questions, take the advise you've been given from this forum, the best advise you can get.
 

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Absolutely not. Big no to this question. IRCC cannot force the husband. Sir, you already had your questions answered, why do you keep insisting? The answers were very clear. If they do nothing at this point, my guess would be that it is because they have bigger priorities. After all, they would have to prove that he committed misrepresentation, and that would take resources (money) that probably the government isn't very keen on spending.
Again, forget about it. There is absolutely no chance that the wife and the daughter will get PR. Canada is a good country indeed, and protects children and women's interests, but this woman and child are foreigners, so they don't have any Canadian privileges.
The answer to your questions were very clear and those are the same answers you will be getting if you keep asking the same questions. I suggest if you don't have other questions, take the advise you've been given from this forum, the best advise you can get.
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Nislam, if you don’t agree with the answers here, no one is forcing you to accept them, everyone is trying to answer you with what they know. If you think you know better, then okay, best of luck. Agree with JulianaAndrew though that the wife and child are NOT Canadians and do not have any “right” to the protection of this country. The help this country extends is out of the goodness of the heart and is in no way to be used for one person’s interest.