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Problem with notice of assesment and option C...help.

Jonny Blond

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Sep 21, 2017
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im about to send in all the forms to immigration very soon but I hit a snag when it comes to that notice of assesment part. On the instructions they said they want my most recent year. Well...in 2016 I didn't work because I used my savings and for the past 400 days I've lived in Ukraine with my now wife. Those 400 days weren't consecutive though but I went every 2 months to see her for 40 days to 50 days repeating for 9 visits to her country. If I can afford 9 flights from Canada to Ukraine every two months to live there...would immigration consider that having income. Flying and living in another country without work isn't for a man on a budget. I just got lucky and didn't have to work. I grew up on the saying that I work to live and not live to work.

Sure I can find work incredibly quickly and just tell my wife that I have to work so when it turns 2018... I can get the T-4 in march and get that NOA and she's all good. But I've read that you can just write immigration that you can support both you and your wife and just give them your plan. I'm a pipe fitter by trade and of course I'll send them my diploma and all that stuff to say look...i heading out to Alberta to continue my career now...would that be sufficient?

I can send them a bank record that a blew 100,000$ just having fun and doing my own thing proving that money won't be an issue. I did try and access that account thing on the CIC website but it says error...could I send them my tax return from 2015.

I guess the easiest way to make sense of this question is...what can I do that I didn't work in 2016 and get that NOA document? I've never been on welfare or got government assistence... I want to get my wife to Canada and the relationship part is going to be a breeze...I have beyond evidence of that...it's the work thing that I don't feel to excited about...help? Thanks...
 

evdm

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You filed absolutely nothing with the CRA for 2016?

Tax filings aren't just for income based on employment so even if you don't work and aren't on welfare there's still a tax liability if you are considered resident in Canada for tax purposes. Did you declare yourself non-resident and were you indeed outside of Canada for more than 183 days?

You mentioned a T4, but that's not the same as a Notice of Assessment. Even without employment income I believe the CRA will send you a NOA if you've filed your taxes.
 

rcspousalsponsorship

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Toronto, Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Mississauga to Kingston, Jamaica
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
31-01-2017
Doc's Request.
PCC and Schedule A Feb 22, 2017
AOR Received.
Feb 22, 2017
File Transfer...
April 02, 2017
Passport Req..
Hope it'll be soon
I was approved as a sponsor and I did not provide a NOA. I however provided evidence of my finances eg. bank statments for the immediate 12 months preceding application date. 2.a letter from my bank 3. a letter from an agency that I work with and a letter from myself explaining that im unable to provide the NOA for the most recent tax year because I have not completed my tax filing. However, I provided proof of my income and financial means.

You can do the same. Provide evidence of your finances for the prior 12 months, a letter of explanation(include future means of income, savings/work etc.), bank statments, letter from bank. etc.

Hope this helps, all the best.
 

Jonny Blond

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Sep 21, 2017
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I was living in Calgary till January of 2016. But my T4 would have been sent to my old address but I moved back to New Brunswick.... I didn't make a claim that year for my tax return but it wouldn't have been a very good return because I worked like a month and a half in that year, so I said the hell with it and went to Ukraine while tax season was going on in Canada. So 2016 was an unemployed year as everyone knows the oil crashed in Alberta and everyone got jazzed. If there's no oil money then there's no people buying houses and that meant no new construction which I do New residential pipe fitting. They were only hiring 3rd and 4th year pipe fitters..I was a 2nd year apprentice. So I moved home and had no bills, rent, etc. I thought using the oil crash in canada as an excuse to go to Ukraine and not work was a great idea at the time...now I'm thinking...what was I thinking... sure I can find work incredibly fast right now and if I was to work from October to tax season time in 2018...I could get a tax return for the 2017 year and that would give me my NOA...yes I'll be employed even if I send in my application without that NOA...you would think present employment would be more valuable then the past...would that be more of a consideration if I didn't have my NOA but was employed now?

Thank you for the replies everyone...it's really helpful.
 

KBH

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Sep 13, 2017
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Toronto, ON
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Mississauga
App. Filed.......
August 2nd, 2017
AOR Received.
September 22nd, 2017
File Transfer...
October 7th, 2017
Passport Req..
December 29th, 2017
VISA ISSUED...
January 23rd, 2018
LANDED..........
Feb 1st, 2018
The NOA is only required IF you have one. If you don't have it, and you have a valid reason not to have it (in your case, you didn't work or live in Canada, so it makes sense that you didn't have one), all you have to do is include a letter of explanation telling them why. This is very common. It even says on the checklist that you can include a letter of explanation if you do not have it. If you have one from 2015, you can include that along with your letter.

We did not have a 2016 NOA, included a letter of explanation, and received AOR and SA.
 
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Jonny Blond

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I didn't know I would be considered a non-resident for going to Ukraine to visit. I just went for two months to Ukraine...then I came home to canada for two months...then I did the same thing for quite a while...at the time of doing this...I had no idea you had to say you weren't a resident of Canada. I just didn't work since January 2016 till present...nothing came in the mail for me regarding taxes though. Thank you for your reply though
 

Jonny Blond

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Awesome...thank you kbh...now that's the kind of stuff I want to hear on this chilly Thursday morning...the other replies were awesome too.
 

evdm

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I didn't know I would be considered a non-resident for going to Ukraine to visit. I just went for two months to Ukraine...then I came home to canada for two months...then I did the same thing for quite a while...at the time of doing this...I had no idea you had to say you weren't a resident of Canada. I just didn't work since January 2016 till present...nothing came in the mail for me regarding taxes though. Thank you for your reply though
I suppose my comments have more bearing on taxes than an immigration issue. Completely separate from sponsorship and immigration, you may want to check with CRA whether you have to file something for 2016. If you were in Canada for more than 183 days in 2016, the CRA will consider you a resident for tax purposes; and you'll have to file with them. But that's not what this forum is about.

I'm glad KBH was able to provide you with the helpful information.
 

Jonny Blond

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Sep 21, 2017
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I suppose my comments have more bearing on taxes than an immigration issue. Completely separate from sponsorship and immigration, you may want to check with CRA whether you have to file something for 2016. If you were in Canada for more than 183 days in 2016, the CRA will consider you a resident for tax purposes; and you'll have to file with them. But that's not what this forum is about.

I'm glad KBH was able to provide you with the helpful information.
thank you evdm...your advice was truly appreciated. I will be contacting the CRA because I did try to log into the place where you can look at tax stuff and I'm getting the ERR. 062 page. just to see if I can get some kind of print out would be cool...I do have my 2015 tax return though but if they don't want that then i will just do the explanation of what went down...thank you for the quick responses everyone.