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Changes on Oct 11, 2017 - Executive summary/FAQ C-6

NewUser2018

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I need some help to what to write in the work/education history in the application

I quit my job a year and half ago, since then i was part time student on and off also i was doing some business of catering (self/employed) which i did report to the taxes last year but of course it doesn't have a steady income now what should i write in the work/education history

1- part time student
or 2- self-employed
or 3- unemployed as long as there is no steady income and there is no an official company

i'm really confused
and before any one jump into conclusion i'm not receiving any EI or any social aid i'm 100% supporting myself financially
just write any classes you attended and employment you did, they will verify when they run check your SIN. if u still have doubts let community agency in your area fill the form for u. Dont send do any app if u have doubt filling as it can haunt u back.
 

Montreal101

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just write any classes you attended and employment you did, they will verify when they run check your SIN. if u still have doubts let community agency in your area fill the form for u. Dont send do any app if u have doubt filling as it can haunt u back.
Thanks for your reply, what do you mean by community agency ? i tried to google it but no results
 

oskar2014

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Yes, the knowledge and language test still applies to you. If you were one of the minors affected (e.g. if you were 17 and now the threshold was moved from 14 to 18 years), you would be lucky. But if you are at the other end of the age range, like you, the rules at time of application count.

Source: Sections 17.1 and 18 of Bill C-6.
Hi Spyfy,thanks for answer to me .But to dayI found different knowledge that is in the transitional provision in C6 .Sections 17 and 18about pending applications.Depend on this section ,I understood that I won't have knowledge and language test.What is your opinion am I right or wrong?
 

rizwan150

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Canada
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
2243
App. Filed.......
10-04-2014
Doc's Request.
24-06-2014
Nomination.....
07-05-2014
Med's Request
26-06-2014 (Self MR + RPRF for both) & 31-07-2014 (Spouse MR),
Med's Done....
06-07-2014 (Self) & 18-08-2014 (Spouse)
Passport Req..
PPR-1 + PPR-2: 17-02-2015
VISA ISSUED...
17-02-2015, Passport Received: 17-03-2015
LANDED..........
26-05-2015
There was an announcement related to C6 implementation, but minister didn't mention anything regarding, how they are prepared to handle the huge number of applications starting October 11, 2017. Already, they are too slow in processing citizenship applications. It might add some more time in processing for some time.
 

NewUser2018

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Thanks for your reply, what do you mean by community agency ? i tried to google it but no results
settlement agencies, ymca immigration services are all over the place also some legal community agencies are trained to fill the forms including PR ones. Also again LINC or french certificate providing agencies have someone in their rank filling up forms or can provide reffer in your zip code and they are all free of charge. Many of my immigration papers were filled by these agencies even my PR.
 

cooldoc80

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NOC Code......
4111
Passport Req..
No PPR yet , just Passport Biopage request
LANDED..........
I'm Dreaming of July/2015
Yes, no matter if that other country is your home country or not, you need the certificate.

No, you can't use a four year old certificate cause it doesn't cover the days you have been in that country since. You need a recent certificate.
Thanks for your reply , but if somone do a police certificate before he left his home country and never go back to that country , would that be ok ?
 

NewUser2018

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Thanks for your reply , but if somone do a police certificate before he left his home country and never go back to that country , would that be ok ?
it will be ok, if u did po certificate on pr app and nver left the country more than 5 months u will not do po certificate except for few cases like travelling suspicious countries like syria, somalia, mexico & colombia or on red flag on cbsa database. U will be ok.
 

dildaraldoski

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Hello Spyffy , thank you for this super link, can you help me with my question please

I Want to apply for citizenship at Novermber/2017 , Regarding the police certificate I actually stayed in another country from Januray/2014-July/2014. I actually got a police certificat from that country at july 2014 then I left and I did not return to that country ever.

Do I need to get a new police certificate or not ? it is really difficult for me as I have to go myself to get a new one which is such a headach.

thank you for your reply
 

NewUser2018

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Hello Spyffy , thank you for this super link, can you help me with my question please

I Want to apply for citizenship at Novermber/2017 , Regarding the police certificate I actually stayed in another country from Januray/2014-July/2014. I actually got a police certificat from that country at july 2014 then I left and I did not return to that country ever.

Do I need to get a new police certificate or not ? it is really difficult for me as I have to go myself to get a new one which is such a headach.

thank you for your reply
its very obvious you dont need new one, just make sure to create PDF copy to never lose until this proccess is over atleast. You are set.
 

aliesm20

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What source is the following information based on?
- A press conference given by the minister himself on October 4, 2017 in Brampton
- Bill C-6 as passed by parliament in June 2017
- Here is the news release: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/2017/10/government_of_canadaimplementsnewlegislativechangestothecitizens.html

Which changes will come into effect on Oct 11, 2017?
- You need to be present in Canada for 3 out of 5 years to be eligible.
- You can count days before becoming a Permanent Resident, but they only count as half-days and you can gain at most a year of pre-PR credit (730 half-days = 365 full days is the maximum)
- You need to have fulfilled the tax filing requirements during three years
- You only need proof of language and pass the knowledge test if you are ages 18 to 54
- There used to be an additional provision that you had to have several years in which you were present at least 183 days. That additional provision is gone.
- Note that the "intend to reside" clause has been gone since June already.

Can I use the current forms to apply?
No, you have to wait for the new forms. If you apply as a 3/5 person with the old forms, your application will be refused. You can still apply with the old forms, but you will be assessed according to the 4/6 rule (see below).

When will the new forms be available?
On October 11 the latest, on the IRCC website. Rest assured that there will be about 50 posts in this forum once the new forms become available :)

Does that mean currently pending applications are now assessed according to 3/5?
No, what counts is not the regulations the day "IRCC opens your envelope". It is exclusively the regulations that were in force the day you sent the application. So all pending applications as of today and all applications sent in before October 11 will be assessed according to the old rules!

Do I now need police certificates only for the last three years?
The police certificate threshold ("have you been present in another country for more than 183 days in the previous four years") is independent from all the rule changes above. There has been no indication by IRCC that they intent to change the regulations regarding police certificates. So you should expect that four years is still the rule.

How does the tax filing requirement work, do I have to have three tax returns filed?
No, it does not say "You must have filed three tax returns". It says "In at least three of the past years, IF you were required to file, THEN you must have filed". But if, for example, you were a stay-at-home-dad or stay-at-home-mom and didn't have any income in a year, you weren't required to file, so that is OK. Off topic remark: For the future, always file taxes, even if you don't have to. You will actually get money back!

For the Pre-PR credit, do days as a visitor count?
Yes, it doesn't matter if you were a visitor, student or worker. Note, though, that it is on you to prove your presence in Canada as a visitor. Canada only knows when you entered as a visitor. It is then your job to prove that you were in Canada as long as you claim. This is easy, for example, if your spouse was working and you were living with them.

I stayed in Canada back in 2003. Does that count?
Nothing that is more than five years ago ever counts.

My language test results expired. Can I still use them?
Yes, if their expiry is the only problem, you can still use them.

Transitional cases: I applied under 4/6 but I am over 54, will I still be required to write the test?
Yes, according to section 17.1 and 18 of Bill C-6, the rules when you applied are relevant.

Transitional cases: I applied for my dependent child under 4/6 who is older than 14 but younger than 18, will they still be required to write the test?
No, according to section 17.1 and section 19, the new age range applies. This is only true for minors! If you are over 54, see above.

One request:
I know it's a lot to ask for in this forum, but please: Factual questions only. Debate/Opinion in the other threads.

Hello,
My landing date is Oct 2014, with this 4 years rule does it means I need to send Police certification?
I have visited my country once for a month in last 3 years
 

ChippyBoy

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its very obvious you dont need new one, just make sure to create PDF copy to never lose until this proccess is over atleast. You are set.
I think that there is a rule for how recently-dated police certificates have to be; I seem to recall having seen that date stipulation somewhere back amongst all of the PR application stuff, so one might reasonably then assume that the same rule applies when applying for citizenship, but maybe the OP should contact IRCC directly to enquire about this. I waited until C-6 passed Parliament and then until an expected date of implementation/effectiveness had been announced, then I went immediately to apply for the only police certificate that I'll require (USA), specifically so that I'll have it dated in the Fall of 2017. As Spyfy says, it's wise never to give the bureaucrats any avoidable reason to lump your application into the 'slow' pile.
 

ChippyBoy

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Hello,
My landing date is Oct 2014, with this 4 years rule does it means I need to send Police certification?
I have visited my country once for a month in last 3 years
Going back four (4) years, you'll need a police certificate from whichever country you were in from October 2013 for more than 183 days, cumulative since October 2013.
 

Mike053

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Almost everybody who moved to canada 3 yrs back need Police certification from where ever they moved from because before 3 years, their 4th year was in country of origin, even if they haven't visited their origin country in last 3yrs.
 
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