Ontario PNP (OINP) - 2017: Join here

[BillHyatt]

Hello BillHyatt,
I truly thank you for the clarifications,
I have just checked my application online. Under 'Education history' section I have checked 'Bachelor's degree (three or more years)'. I believe this is the issue as I should have checked 'Two or more certificates, diplomas or degrees' instead, which I believe is the equivalent of 22 points.

Please I have three more questions if you don't mind.
1- based on their email I have sent you, How could you tell that the issue was with the 67 points score and not other factors?
2-In my reply, would the following be enough to convince the officer:
* Attachment of the same reference letter I have sent them in July, 11 to prove work experience, including the CIC website link to claim points
* Attachment of IELTS results with CIC website link to claim points for the first language
* Attachment of TEF results with CIC website link to claim points for the second language
* Attachment of WES report with a clear explanation to claim the 22 points, as this could have been the issue, including the CIC website link to claim education points.
* Attachment of my birth certificate to prove that I have 39 years, including the CIC website link to claim 8 points of age.

Lastly, in your point of view how long it would take them to make a decision, and what are the chances of a positive on ?
Thank you BillHyatt for your help and assistance.

1. It is stated in the extract you provided:

"The assessment of the information and documentation submitted in support of your
application indicates that some of the above criteria may not have been met.
Specifically,

 A minimum of 67 points for the FSWP Points are awarded for the following six
selection factors: English and/or French Skills, Education, Experience, Age,
Arranged employment in Canada, and Adaptability.
o See the Application Guide for Ontario Human Capital Priorities Stream:
(http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/prodconsum/groups/csc/@oipp/docume
nts/document/oi_en_hcps.pdf
(http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/prodconsum/groups/csc/@oipp/docume
nts/document/oi_en_hcps.pdf"

The word Specifically is used by OINP for the required documents or to state which eligibility they believe you haven't met.

2. Yes, it will be fine. I believe the problem is due to confusion for 1 extra point awarded for Education. So, focus that to convince them you get 22 points and not 21.

3. If approved it can take from few hours to weeks after receiving AOR for documents. Also, I would recommend asking for AOR when you send your documents. If they don't send in like 3-4 days send them an email again. Sometimes, they just reject applications stating documents not received so don't get into their trap.

I haven't seen any rejection to date if you explain them well, and even rejected applications have been nominated by providing the professional and timely response.

I hope this will help. Good Luck.

 

[BillHyatt]

Thanks Bill. When you say date of application, do you mean the day the NOI from Ontario was issued or the day the Express Entry profile was created? To meet the 67-point eligibility will 6 years be counted from the day the EE profile was created? For Ontario I have more than one year of continuous full-time skilled experience.

For OINP the date you submitted your application and for CIC the date of AOR.

 

[Raj Ryan]

Dear BillHyatt, I received Procedural Fairness Request from OINP asking to provide Intent to reside in Ontario and indication of ties to Ontario, though I submitted those earlier. OINP asked to provide documentation on the status of the Quebec Application which my spouse submitted last year. My spouse has agreed to withdraw the application from Quebec if OINP nominates. He has decided to provide an undertaking in this regard. Will it be sufficient?

I have few friends in Ontario. Does it require to mention their names and details in the revised indication of ties and Intent to reside in Ontario?

What is the standard way to reply for Procedural Fairness Request?

 

[BillHyatt]

Dear BillHyatt, I received Procedural Fairness Request from OINP asking to provide Intent to reside in Ontario and indication of ties to Ontario, though I submitted those earlier. OINP asked to provide documentation on the status of the Quebec Application which my spouse submitted last year. My spouse has agreed to withdraw the application from Quebec if OINP nominates. He has decided to provide an undertaking in this regard. Will it be sufficient?

I have few friends in Ontario. Does it require to mention their names and details in the revised indication of ties and Intent to reside in Ontario?

What is the standard way to reply for Procedural Fairness Request?

Intent to Reside is an essay type letter explaining why Ontario rather than other provinces. I would suggest covering these things:

1. Education: World Top universities and extensive support Available.
2. Work: Opportunities available are more than anywhere else especially related to my profession.
3. Health: Provides one of the world most advanced health care system.
4. Community: Provide a diversified and inclusive community that is important for settlement.
5. Benefits: Government incentives for newcomers and support to its residents is attractive.
6. Links: Define any friends, family, or other ties to Ontario (it is optional if you are not claiming points for adaptability)

No need to withdraw the application, however, a simple explanation is sufficient that he will be joining you in Ontario as well after settlement. No need to mention he is applying with Quebec and will withdraw the application and so on.

I have seen this being asked too many in the past especially for those who don't write enough or states N/A during the application under Intent to Reside.

I hope this will help. Good Luck.

 

[joaojr123]

my procedural fairness request is apparently for settlement of funds.

i am a single applicant
for POF i showed two sources:


1) my own bank account statement ,which is equivalent to $11,030.33 CAD
2) rest of the $1270 CAD were shown from my pension/investment account ( seems they did not accept it so sent me this)

The documentation provided on your pension fund investment from UBL Fund Managers could not be accepted as settlement funds as no documents have been provided by your financial institution indicating that the funds are readily accessible.

Please provide confirmation from your financial institution that the funds
contained in your investment accounts can be immediately liquidated and at what
value; and that they are free of debt or financial liability.

Any additional information and documentation to support that your application
meets program criteria.

I reckon, i would need Letter from my pension account advisor, explaining what OINP has asked for.

Can't your pension fund manager send a letter confirming your pension funds can be automatically withdrawn? That's all they want, and this should be pretty straightforward if they can be reached. That is, if your pension funds are really immediately withdrawable.

If they aren't or if the investment company can't send you such letter, there isn't really much to do. Good luck!

 

[erridja100]

1. It is stated in the extract you provided:

"The assessment of the information and documentation submitted in support of your
application indicates that some of the above criteria may not have been met.
Specifically,

 A minimum of 67 points for the FSWP Points are awarded for the following six
selection factors: English and/or French Skills, Education, Experience, Age,
Arranged employment in Canada, and Adaptability.
o See the Application Guide for Ontario Human Capital Priorities Stream:
(http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/prodconsum/groups/csc/@oipp/docume
nts/document/oi_en_hcps.pdf
(http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/prodconsum/groups/csc/@oipp/docume
nts/document/oi_en_hcps.pdf"

The word Specifically is used by OINP for the required documents or to state which eligibility they believe you haven't met.

2. Yes, it will be fine. I believe the problem is due to confusion for 1 extra point awarded for Education. So, focus that to convince them you get 22 points and not 21.

3. If approved it can take from few hours to weeks after receiving AOR for documents. Also, I would recommend asking for AOR when you send your documents. If they don't send in like 3-4 days send them an email again. Sometimes, they just reject applications stating documents not received so don't get into their trap.

I haven't seen any rejection to date if you explain them well, and even rejected applications have been nominated by providing the professional and timely response.

I hope this will help. Good Luck.

Good day BillHyatt,
Honestly, I do not find the right words to express my thanks to you. Thank you Bill for your guidance and support.
I'm so very grateful to your help Bill.
Best Regards,

 

[Fin_Fin]

Intent to Reside is an essay type letter explaining why Ontario rather than other provinces. I would suggest covering these things:

1. Education: World Top universities and extensive support Available.
2. Work: Opportunities available are more than anywhere else especially related to my profession.
3. Health: Provides one of the world most advanced health care system.
4. Community: Provide a diversified and inclusive community that is important for settlement.
5. Benefits: Government incentives for newcomers and support to its residents is attractive.
6. Links: Define any friends, family, or other ties to Ontario (it is optional if you are not claiming points for adaptability)

No need to withdraw the application, however, a simple explanation is sufficient that he will be joining you in Ontario as well after settlement. No need to mention he is applying with Quebec and will withdraw the application and so on.

I have seen this being asked too many in the past especially for those who don't write enough or states N/A during the application under Intent to Reside.

I hope this will help. Good Luck.

Thanks a lot

 

[Raj_Bangalore]

For OINP the date you submitted your application and for CIC the date of AOR.

Hi Bill,
This means for Ontario, at least one year of continuous full-time skilled employment, and for CIC the maximum 6 years of skilled experience is calculated from the date of AOR which is after the ITA to calculate the 67-point eligibility. But before Ontario issues the nomination, doesn't it check whether the candidate meets the CIC 67 point score? Or does it only look for the one year continuous full-time skilled experience? I am still confused. Would appreciate if you can clarify this.

 

[BillHyatt]

Hi Bill,
This means for Ontario, at least one year of continuous full-time skilled employment, and for CIC the maximum 6 years of skilled experience is calculated from the date of AOR which is after the ITA to calculate the 67-point eligibility. But before Ontario issues the nomination, doesn't it check whether the candidate meets the CIC 67 point score? Or does it only look for the one year continuous full-time skilled experience? I am still confused. Would appreciate if you can clarify this.

By the time passes your circumstance will keep changing. OINP will check if you have 67 points from the time you submitted application to them however CIC will check from the time of AOR.

 

[Muhammad Faisal]

@BillHyatt I just wanted to thank you for helping everyone here. This is highly appreciated. Your comments are always encouraging and helping. I have also heard that OINP is friendly and do not reject applications straight away unless there is a solid reason and they always give chance to applicants for explaining things that are confusing. I hope everyone here will be nominated and it is just a matter of time. So friends, be thankful, that at least we did not miss the chance to apply and sooner or later we all will be nominated. Thanks

 

[mcassim87]

Can't your pension fund manager send a letter confirming your pension funds can be automatically withdrawn? That's all they want, and this should be pretty straightforward if they can be reached. That is, if your pension funds are really immediately withdrawable.

If they aren't or if the investment company can't send you such letter, there isn't really much to do. Good luck!

My pension funds are immediately transferable , i was even thinking of transferring those to my personal account in July but my account manager advised to use the Account Statement instead, as most of his clients did the same in the past.

So i will defo visit my bank , first thing in Monday morning, to get a letter from my Funds manager.

 

[Raj_Bangalore]

By the time passes your circumstance will keep changing. OINP will check if you have 67 points from the time you submitted application to them however CIC will check from the time of AOR.

Thanks Bill for the info.

 

[ge3qz]

Just got procedural fairness letter request

seems like they were not satisfied with the my pension scheme plan statement, so i fell 1500 CAD short in my POF
now they are asking me this:

Please provide confirmation from your financial institution that the funds contained in your investment accounts can be immediately liquidated and at what value; and that they are free of debt or financial liability.

hi mcassim, did you receive this via email?

 

[arsghimire]

there will be nominations in few hours

 

[mcassim87]

hi mcassim, did you receive this via email?

Yes, a pdf document attached in an email explaining what's required