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dragab

Member
Sep 15, 2017
16
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@BillHyatt, and any experienced members: PLEASE HELP
Here is the Email I rececived today from ONIP:
Dear Sir/Madam,


The Ontario Immigrant Nominee Program is currently assessing your application. Please find attached a procedural fairness letter requesting additional information to support that your application meets program criteria.


Sincerely,


Ontario Immigrant Nominee Program | Programme ontarien des candidats à l'immigration

Ministry of Citizenship and Immigration | Ministère des Affaires civiques et de l’Immigration

Government of Ontario | Gouvernement de l’Ontario

5th Floor | 5ème étage

400 University Ave. | 400, avenue University

Toronto ON | M7A 2R9

Fax | Télécopieur : (416) 327-0860

Email: Ontarionominee@ontario.ca | candidatontarien@ontario.ca

Website: www.ontarioimmigration.ca/en/pnp/

Dear Sir:

RE: Procedural Fairness Request – Federal Skilled Worker

Thank you for your application to the Ontario Immigrant Nominee Program (OINP)
under the Ontario Express Entry: Human Capital Priorities Stream received on July 11,
2017. Your application and all supporting documentation submitted to date have been
reviewed.

Before a decision is made on your application, this letter is to provide you with a final
opportunity to submit information to support your eligibility for nomination.

All applicants who choose to be assessed against the Federal Skilled Worker Program
(FSWP) criteria must meet the following provincial criteria:

 A minimum of one year of continuous and full-time employment (1,560 hours or
more) or an equal amount in continuous part-time paid work experience in a
National Occupation Classification (NOC) 0, A, or B occupation in the past five
years from the date of the PT Notification of Interest from Ontario. Applicants
assessed against FSWP criteria can demonstrate work experience obtained in
Canada or overseas. The one year minimum of continuous and full-time (or
equivalent continuous part-time) employment must have been in one specific
NOC occupation.

 A Canadian Bachelors, Masters or PhD degree or an Educational Credential
Assessment (ECA) report produced by a designated organization indicating that
your foreign education is the equivalent of a Canadian Bachelors, Masters or
PhD degree.
Page 2 of 3

 A language level of Canadian Language Benchmark (CLB) 7 or above in all
language competencies (reading, writing, listening, and speaking) in either
English or French.

 Score a minimum of 400 points in the Comprehensive Ranking System in CIC’s
Express Entry system. Your score must remain at or above 400 during both the
Ontario nomination processing stage and at the federal application for permanent
residency processing stage.

 Possess sufficient funds and/or income to cover settlement costs in Ontario.
Funds must be unencumbered, readily transferable in a convertible currency, and
supported by bank statements.

 Intend to reside in Ontario, as demonstrated by a statement of intent and
indication of ties to Ontario.

 Registration in the Express Entry system, including a valid Express Entry number
and Job Seeker Validation code, is a requirement of the Human Capital Priorities
Stream and the French-Speaking Skilled Worker Stream of the Ontario
Immigrant Nominee Program (OINP).

If you choose to qualify under the FSWP criteria, you will also be assessed against
CIC’s six selection factors to ensure you meet the minimum of 67 points for the FSWP.

The assessment of the information and documentation submitted in support of your
application indicates that some of the above criteria may not have been met.
Specifically,

 A minimum of 67 points for the FSWP Points are awarded for the following six
selection factors: English and/or French Skills, Education, Experience, Age,
Arranged employment in Canada, and Adaptability.
o See the Application Guide for Ontario Human Capital Priorities Stream:
(http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/prodconsum/groups/csc/@oipp/docume
nts/document/oi_en_hcps.pdf
(http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/prodconsum/groups/csc/@oipp/docume
nts/document/oi_en_hcps.pdf

Should the program not receive additional information within this timeframe, your
application will be assessed based on the existing information on file which may lead to
the refusal of your application.


In your opinion why are they listing all these factors knowing that I have provided all evidences when I submitted my application ?.
Why they are not specific about which prove to submit?
Please note that my CRS is 315 and not 400 because I received the ontario notification in ICT week (29 june).
Please help me and tell me how to proceed. PLEASE !!
Best Regards,
Did
@BillHyatt, and any experienced members: PLEASE HELP
Here is the Email I rececived today from ONIP:
Dear Sir/Madam,


The Ontario Immigrant Nominee Program is currently assessing your application. Please find attached a procedural fairness letter requesting additional information to support that your application meets program criteria.


Sincerely,


Ontario Immigrant Nominee Program | Programme ontarien des candidats à l'immigration

Ministry of Citizenship and Immigration | Ministère des Affaires civiques et de l’Immigration

Government of Ontario | Gouvernement de l’Ontario

5th Floor | 5ème étage

400 University Ave. | 400, avenue University

Toronto ON | M7A 2R9

Fax | Télécopieur : (416) 327-0860

Email: Ontarionominee@ontario.ca | candidatontarien@ontario.ca

Website: www.ontarioimmigration.ca/en/pnp/

Dear Sir:

RE: Procedural Fairness Request – Federal Skilled Worker

Thank you for your application to the Ontario Immigrant Nominee Program (OINP)
under the Ontario Express Entry: Human Capital Priorities Stream received on July 11,
2017. Your application and all supporting documentation submitted to date have been
reviewed.

Before a decision is made on your application, this letter is to provide you with a final
opportunity to submit information to support your eligibility for nomination.

All applicants who choose to be assessed against the Federal Skilled Worker Program
(FSWP) criteria must meet the following provincial criteria:

 A minimum of one year of continuous and full-time employment (1,560 hours or
more) or an equal amount in continuous part-time paid work experience in a
National Occupation Classification (NOC) 0, A, or B occupation in the past five
years from the date of the PT Notification of Interest from Ontario. Applicants
assessed against FSWP criteria can demonstrate work experience obtained in
Canada or overseas. The one year minimum of continuous and full-time (or
equivalent continuous part-time) employment must have been in one specific
NOC occupation.

 A Canadian Bachelors, Masters or PhD degree or an Educational Credential
Assessment (ECA) report produced by a designated organization indicating that
your foreign education is the equivalent of a Canadian Bachelors, Masters or
PhD degree.
Page 2 of 3

 A language level of Canadian Language Benchmark (CLB) 7 or above in all
language competencies (reading, writing, listening, and speaking) in either
English or French.

 Score a minimum of 400 points in the Comprehensive Ranking System in CIC’s
Express Entry system. Your score must remain at or above 400 during both the
Ontario nomination processing stage and at the federal application for permanent
residency processing stage.

 Possess sufficient funds and/or income to cover settlement costs in Ontario.
Funds must be unencumbered, readily transferable in a convertible currency, and
supported by bank statements.

 Intend to reside in Ontario, as demonstrated by a statement of intent and
indication of ties to Ontario.

 Registration in the Express Entry system, including a valid Express Entry number
and Job Seeker Validation code, is a requirement of the Human Capital Priorities
Stream and the French-Speaking Skilled Worker Stream of the Ontario
Immigrant Nominee Program (OINP).

If you choose to qualify under the FSWP criteria, you will also be assessed against
CIC’s six selection factors to ensure you meet the minimum of 67 points for the FSWP.

The assessment of the information and documentation submitted in support of your
application indicates that some of the above criteria may not have been met.
Specifically,

 A minimum of 67 points for the FSWP Points are awarded for the following six
selection factors: English and/or French Skills, Education, Experience, Age,
Arranged employment in Canada, and Adaptability.
o See the Application Guide for Ontario Human Capital Priorities Stream:
(http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/prodconsum/groups/csc/@oipp/docume
nts/document/oi_en_hcps.pdf
(http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/prodconsum/groups/csc/@oipp/docume
nts/document/oi_en_hcps.pdf

Should the program not receive additional information within this timeframe, your
application will be assessed based on the existing information on file which may lead to
the refusal of your application.


In your opinion why are they listing all these factor knowing that I have provided all evidences when I submitted my application ?.
Why they are not specific about which prove to submit?
Please note that my CRS is 315 and not 400 because I received the ontario notification in ICT week (29 june).
Please help me and tell me how to proceed. PLEASE !!
Best Regards,
what is ur score out of the 67 points ?
 

dragab

Member
Sep 15, 2017
16
3
Hi Bill,
Is it true that once we cross 60 days invariably we will get a Procedural Fairness Letter? Or are there cases where people have received nomination after 60 days without PFL? In all the cases that I have seen, applicants that got the PFL were not preceded with an ADR. Is my understanding correct?
Its seems that when u pass the 60 days u r more likely to receive PFL , i just received one today after 70 days :(
 

BillHyatt

Champion Member
Apr 13, 2017
1,737
2,036
Toronto
@BillHyatt I am the primary applicant While my wife is a dependent applicant.

This is regarding my POF. I have shown two accounts.
1 - My Personal Account and
2 - Joint account with my wife who is the first holder.
I have 70% of the funds in my account and 30% in the joint account. Will this create a problem for me ?
Just attach a letter from your wife declaring that she has no objection if you use this funds for settlement in Canada and she also intend to come along you. Anything like this and include her contact information like mobile number and email for further confirmation.

I hope this will help.
 
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BillHyatt

Champion Member
Apr 13, 2017
1,737
2,036
Toronto
I received PFL today too.
Application Submitted: 18 Jul
Assessment :25 Jul
DIP:15 Aug
Awaiting information ( PFL ):29 Sep
I replied to their email and waiting for the acknowledgment. does any one know who long does it take from AOR to nomination?
From few hours to weeks. My friend got AOR 23 Jun and Nomination on 28 June. Some got it in 30 mins.

Keep checking EE Profile regularly after AOR.
 

BillHyatt

Champion Member
Apr 13, 2017
1,737
2,036
Toronto
@BillHyatt, and any experienced members: PLEASE HELP
Here is the Email I rececived today from ONIP:
Dear Sir/Madam,


The Ontario Immigrant Nominee Program is currently assessing your application. Please find attached a procedural fairness letter requesting additional information to support that your application meets program criteria.


Sincerely,


Ontario Immigrant Nominee Program | Programme ontarien des candidats à l'immigration

Ministry of Citizenship and Immigration | Ministère des Affaires civiques et de l’Immigration

Government of Ontario | Gouvernement de l’Ontario

5th Floor | 5ème étage

400 University Ave. | 400, avenue University

Toronto ON | M7A 2R9

Fax | Télécopieur : (416) 327-0860

Email: Ontarionominee@ontario.ca | candidatontarien@ontario.ca

Website: www.ontarioimmigration.ca/en/pnp/

Dear Sir:

RE: Procedural Fairness Request – Federal Skilled Worker

Thank you for your application to the Ontario Immigrant Nominee Program (OINP)
under the Ontario Express Entry: Human Capital Priorities Stream received on July 11,
2017. Your application and all supporting documentation submitted to date have been
reviewed.

Before a decision is made on your application, this letter is to provide you with a final
opportunity to submit information to support your eligibility for nomination.

All applicants who choose to be assessed against the Federal Skilled Worker Program
(FSWP) criteria must meet the following provincial criteria:

 A minimum of one year of continuous and full-time employment (1,560 hours or
more) or an equal amount in continuous part-time paid work experience in a
National Occupation Classification (NOC) 0, A, or B occupation in the past five
years from the date of the PT Notification of Interest from Ontario. Applicants
assessed against FSWP criteria can demonstrate work experience obtained in
Canada or overseas. The one year minimum of continuous and full-time (or
equivalent continuous part-time) employment must have been in one specific
NOC occupation.

 A Canadian Bachelors, Masters or PhD degree or an Educational Credential
Assessment (ECA) report produced by a designated organization indicating that
your foreign education is the equivalent of a Canadian Bachelors, Masters or
PhD degree.
Page 2 of 3

 A language level of Canadian Language Benchmark (CLB) 7 or above in all
language competencies (reading, writing, listening, and speaking) in either
English or French.

 Score a minimum of 400 points in the Comprehensive Ranking System in CIC’s
Express Entry system. Your score must remain at or above 400 during both the
Ontario nomination processing stage and at the federal application for permanent
residency processing stage.

 Possess sufficient funds and/or income to cover settlement costs in Ontario.
Funds must be unencumbered, readily transferable in a convertible currency, and
supported by bank statements.

 Intend to reside in Ontario, as demonstrated by a statement of intent and
indication of ties to Ontario.

 Registration in the Express Entry system, including a valid Express Entry number
and Job Seeker Validation code, is a requirement of the Human Capital Priorities
Stream and the French-Speaking Skilled Worker Stream of the Ontario
Immigrant Nominee Program (OINP).

If you choose to qualify under the FSWP criteria, you will also be assessed against
CIC’s six selection factors to ensure you meet the minimum of 67 points for the FSWP.

The assessment of the information and documentation submitted in support of your
application indicates that some of the above criteria may not have been met.
Specifically,

 A minimum of 67 points for the FSWP Points are awarded for the following six
selection factors: English and/or French Skills, Education, Experience, Age,
Arranged employment in Canada, and Adaptability.
o See the Application Guide for Ontario Human Capital Priorities Stream:
(http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/prodconsum/groups/csc/@oipp/docume
nts/document/oi_en_hcps.pdf
(http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/prodconsum/groups/csc/@oipp/docume
nts/document/oi_en_hcps.pdf

Should the program not receive additional information within this timeframe, your
application will be assessed based on the existing information on file which may lead to
the refusal of your application.


In your opinion why are they listing all these factors knowing that I have provided all evidences when I submitted my application ?.
Why they are not specific about which prove to submit?
Please note that my CRS is 315 and not 400 because I received the ontario notification in ICT week (29 june).
Please help me and tell me how to proceed. PLEASE !!
Best Regards,
They haven't objected on CRS Scores but against Six Eligibility Factors. The 67 points Test

PM me your six factors scores break down and I will tell you the format of your response accordingly.
 

PayalD

Star Member
Sep 18, 2015
77
1
Hi,

Has anybody received LOI from Ontario PNP for Skilled Trades Program?
My NOC is 7231, my current employment in Woodbridge, ON with Job Tiltle 'CNC Machinist' for past one year does not require any trade license/certificate.

Do I need the trade certificate/license to apply for Ontario PNP & thereafter (if nominated), in Express Entry?

Thanks
 

erridja100

Hero Member
Jul 13, 2017
237
79
They haven't objected on CRS Scores but against Six Eligibility Factors. The 67 points Test

PM me your six factors scores break down and I will tell you the format of your response accordingly.
Hello BillHyatt,
I really appreciate you assistance.
My six factors scores in detail are as follow:
1-language skills (English & French):
First language is English (At leat CLB 7)
-------------------------
listening :6.5 (4 points)
Reading:6.5 (5 points)
Writing:6.5 (5 points)
Speaking: 7.5 (6 points)
Second language is French (I got CLB 5 which is the minimum requirement which is equivalent to 4 points)
-------------------------
listening :209/360
Reading:191/300
Writing:291/450
Speaking: 272/450

Language score is 4+5+5+6+4=24

2-Education:
----------------
Two or more Canadian post-secondary degrees or diplomas or equal (at least one must be for a program of at least three years)
My WES credentials states the following:
Diploma (two years) and bachelor's degree (four years)
So that's the equivalent of 22 points

3-Experience
-------------------
4-5 years (13 points) (I was hired in May 2012, by the time I submitted my application in July I had more than 4 years of experience)

4-Age
--------
I was born in June, 1978 (so I'm 39 years old)
8 points

5-Arranged employment
---------------------
None : 0 point

6-Adaptability
---------------
None: 0 point

The Total is 67 points exactly. if I'm nominated I will not drop below 67 points.
For factor 1 please refer to: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/language-testing.asp
For factor 2 to 6 please refer to: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-factors.asp
Please advise me on how to proceed in my reply to them and what proves can I submit if I have to.
Honestly I do not know how to thank you as for your great help not only to me but to many members in this forum.
Waiting for your reply.
Best Regards,
 

BillHyatt

Champion Member
Apr 13, 2017
1,737
2,036
Toronto
Hello BillHyatt,
I really appreciate you assistance.
My six factors scores in detail are as follow:
1-language skills (English & French):
First language is English (At leat CLB 7)
-------------------------
listening :6.5 (4 points)
Reading:6.5 (5 points)
Writing:6.5 (5 points)
Speaking: 7.5 (6 points)
Second language is French (I got CLB 5 which is the minimum requirement which is equivalent to 4 points)
-------------------------
listening :209/360
Reading:191/300
Writing:291/450
Speaking: 272/450

Language score is 4+5+5+6+4=24

2-Education:
----------------
Two or more Canadian post-secondary degrees or diplomas or equal (at least one must be for a program of at least three years)
My WES credentials states the following:
Diploma (two years) and bachelor's degree (four years)
So that's the equivalent of 22 points

3-Experience
-------------------
4-5 years (13 points) (I was hired in May 2012, by the time I submitted my application in July I had more than 4 years of experience)

4-Age
--------
I was born in June, 1978 (so I'm 39 years old)
8 points

5-Arranged employment
---------------------
None : 0 point

6-Adaptability
---------------
None: 0 point

The Total is 67 points exactly. if I'm nominated I will not drop below 67 points.
For factor 1 please refer to: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/language-testing.asp
For factor 2 to 6 please refer to: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-factors.asp
Please advise me on how to proceed in my reply to them and what proves can I submit if I have to.
Honestly I do not know how to thank you as for your great help not only to me but to many members in this forum.
Waiting for your reply.
Best Regards,
You should write an email as required by OINP, and explain them in the same way you did here. Just add references to your file such as refer IELTS results and website link (as mentioned above) and so on for others as well.

I guess the problem is with your education that may have caused a misunderstanding. This is a common mistake I have seen in OINP when you have more than 2 degrees/diplomas. If considering your highest qualification being a Bachelor Degree it gives you 21 points, however, adding one more diploma gives you 22 points making the score 67/100.

You need to emphasise this point and referring it to ECA report and CRS Score calculated automatically in the express entry. So, just explain all point again, refer them to your documents, attach ECA/IELTS again, and tell them that this seems to be a misunderstanding.

I hope this will help. Good Luck
 

PurvangB

Star Member
Mar 3, 2017
55
27
Just attach a letter from your wife declaring that she has no objection if you use this funds for settlement in Canada and she also intend to come along you. Anything like this and include her contact information like mobile number and email for further confirmation.

I hope this will help.
Thanks @BillHyatt

This should be on a plain piece of paper right with her signature on it ?