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Lazy

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Sep 5, 2017
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Good day everyone,

Well I tried this post in other threads but didn't get a response and since this thread is sticky I may be able to get quick response and I hope this is the right thread for this post. So I have a quick question relating to work experience letter for the express entry application, well, a couple of questions to be more precise but they are all related. And before I get into the questions I would like to explain my situation and the confusion I am facing. So, I worked at a company for almost 7 years, from June 2009 to June 2016, and worked in two different department, lets call them Department A and Department B. I also held two different positions/designation during my stay at this company, one as an assistant manager and one as a manager. For the first 15 months I was in Department A as an assistant manager and then moved to Department B again as an an assistant manager and remained at that designation for a little over 4 years. Then I was promoted to the post of manager and after 15 months of serving as a manager in Department B I left the company in June of 2016.

Now, I did get an experience letter from my immediate boss in Department B but the letter doesn't give any details of my job description in Department A (the first 15 months of my work experience) because he was not my supervisor in Department A and cannot realistically give details of my job description or the work I did there. Moreover, getting experience letter from Department A is not a possibility. The other thing is that I got the letter 3 months before I left the job so it doesn't cover the last 3 months' period of my work experience as well. Keeping in view the aforementioned scenario, I have the following questions; the answers of which I need to figure out:

Q1) Should I mention work experience on my application as the entire 7 years or should I just subtract the duration not covered in the letter? or just go with the time-period I served under my supervisor in Department B which happens to be more than 5 years but less than 6 years? I should also mention here that while filling-in the application, in the work experience section, I see the options of 4-5 years of experience and 6+ years of experience but no option for 5-6 years of experience so which option to choose then?

Q2) Should I mention my work experience as one entry since my entire work experience is in one company or should I break it down into 3 separate entries depending on the designations and departments while filling-in the online application?

Q3) I should mention it here that I can only arrange one letter so in case I go for three separate entries will the same letter suffice for all of them?

Q4) Is it okay if my ex-supervisor in Department B mentions that I worked in Department A for this much period and in such and such capacity without delving into specific details, will it suffice? or should I just remove the mention of that period from my application altogether?

Q5) Should I ask my ex-supervisor in Department B to rewrite me the letter now so that the last 3 months are also covered in the letter which were left out when I initially got the letter 3 months prior to leaving the company?

I know this is a lengthy read but I feel like I needed to write all this in order to make sense of what I wanted to ask. I would highly appreciate if anyone who has been in the same boat could help me out and guide me or if there is any expert on this subject who would like to chip in with their opinion/expertise. Thanks

Best,
Lazy
 

magesh1988

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Sep 19, 2017
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Dear All,
I am new in this forum and wanted to ask one thing regarding EE profile, I have Got my IELTS test report as well as ECA report. Issue is this, uptill now i havent got my wife's ECA report, However her IELTS test report is with me. Could someone please tell me
1- After Building EE profile, Could I add my Wife's ECA report in the Profile to increase my Score?
Yes, if you need additional points do add your wife details with IELTS, WES documents and work experience.
 

TanakaM

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Dec 29, 2016
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Good day everyone,

Well I tried this post in other threads but didn't get a response and since this thread is sticky I may be able to get quick response and I hope this is the right thread for this post. So I have a quick question relating to work experience letter for the express entry application, well, a couple of questions to be more precise but they are all related. And before I get into the questions I would like to explain my situation and the confusion I am facing. So, I worked at a company for almost 7 years, from June 2009 to June 2016, and worked in two different department, lets call them Department A and Department B. I also held two different positions/designation during my stay at this company, one as an assistant manager and one as a manager. For the first 15 months I was in Department A as an assistant manager and then moved to Department B again as an an assistant manager and remained at that designation for a little over 4 years. Then I was promoted to the post of manager and after 15 months of serving as a manager in Department B I left the company in June of 2016.

Now, I did get an experience letter from my immediate boss in Department B but the letter doesn't give any details of my job description in Department A (the first 15 months of my work experience) because he was not my supervisor in Department A and cannot realistically give details of my job description or the work I did there. Moreover, getting experience letter from Department A is not a possibility. The other thing is that I got the letter 3 months before I left the job so it doesn't cover the last 3 months' period of my work experience as well. Keeping in view the aforementioned scenario, I have the following questions; the answers of which I need to figure out:

Q1) Should I mention work experience on my application as the entire 7 years or should I just subtract the duration not covered in the letter? or just go with the time-period I served under my supervisor in Department B which happens to be more than 5 years but less than 6 years? I should also mention here that while filling-in the application, in the work experience section, I see the options of 4-5 years of experience and 6+ years of experience but no option for 5-6 years of experience so which option to choose then?

I would recommend you just use the experience in Department B. Since it is more than 5 years you don't need the other experience.

Q2) Should I mention my work experience as one entry since my entire work experience is in one company or should I break it down into 3 separate entries depending on the designations and departments while filling-in the online application?

Have 2 entries, 1 for assistant manager and another for manager.

Q3) I should mention it here that I can only arrange one letter so in case I go for three separate entries will the same letter suffice for all of them?

You can upload 1 letter which gives details of both roles.

Q4) Is it okay if my ex-supervisor in Department B mentions that I worked in Department A for this much period and in such and such capacity without delving into specific details, will it suffice? or should I just remove the mention of that period from my application altogether?

Remove it from your employment history and only mention it in the personal history section where no evidence is required.

Q5) Should I ask my ex-supervisor in Department B to rewrite me the letter now so that the last 3 months are also covered in the letter which were left out when I initially got the letter 3 months prior to leaving the company?

The reference letter must cover the period you are claiming points for. Thus if you need it re-written do so.

I know this is a lengthy read but I feel like I needed to write all this in order to make sense of what I wanted to ask. I would highly appreciate if anyone who has been in the same boat could help me out and guide me or if there is any expert on this subject who would like to chip in with their opinion/expertise. Thanks

Best,
Lazy
Hi,

See answers in red.

All the best
 
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TanakaM

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Hi guys,

Just a heads up for you.

One thing I noticed from studying my GCMS notes is that the exchange rate they used for POF was much lower than the one I used. It's ether they used a more recent rate or it was a different to begin with. I thought I had around 600-700 CAD more than the minimum but ended up with only 53CAD more than the minimum.

So my advice to you all is be prepared to show at least 1000-2000CAD more than the minimum so that you are not adversely affected by exchange rate fluctuations. Also use the Bank of Canada exchange rate, as they are likely to be the ones they use.

All the best
 
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vladikim

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Nov 24, 2015
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When the file is being transferred from CIO to Ottawa what usually happens at this stage?
 

Mossiah

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Sep 28, 2017
1
0
Hi everyone,

Please I need urgent assistance through your responses.

We have just received ITA.
Now the issue is that my wife has been to different countries in the past, of which one of them is Argentina.
Argentina will not give one police clearance certificate (PCC) in their absence or through online medium, they require one to come to the country to obtain this. Now my wife was able to get one in May this year two days before her departure from the country.

From our research, applications can get turned down because of PCC been obtained before one leaves the country or it been later than six months before submission.

My questions hence are these;
Is it possible for my wife to not mention Argentina as a country she has been to, and also avoid scanning that potion of her passport that bears the Argentine visa stamp.
Also her passport will expire in the next 8 months so we plan to wait till it's 6months to expiration to cancel that old passport and obtain a new one before submission of our ITA documents. It is because of this passport expiration that I was thinking of not mentioning Argentina at all to avoid issues arising since the Argentine visa will be in the old cancelled passport.
Please note that we still plan to scan other pages of the old passport that contains visa stamps of other countries she has been too such as UK which is where she did her masters (we got the UK PCC online, hassle free).

A candid n urgent response will be very very very appreciated. Thank you.
 

ersandee

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Jul 12, 2017
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NDVO
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Guys, I have a quick question on LIMA, If i have a LIMA approved job offer will i get a PR or a Work permit ?
 

DelPiero07

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Oct 2, 2016
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Hi everyone,

Please I need urgent assistance through your responses.

We have just received ITA.
Now the issue is that my wife has been to different countries in the past, of which one of them is Argentina.
Argentina will not give one police clearance certificate (PCC) in their absence or through online medium, they require one to come to the country to obtain this. Now my wife was able to get one in May this year two days before her departure from the country.

From our research, applications can get turned down because of PCC been obtained before one leaves the country or it been later than six months before submission.

My questions hence are these;
Is it possible for my wife to not mention Argentina as a country she has been to, and also avoid scanning that potion of her passport that bears the Argentine visa stamp.
Also her passport will expire in the next 8 months so we plan to wait till it's 6months to expiration to cancel that old passport and obtain a new one before submission of our ITA documents. It is because of this passport expiration that I was thinking of not mentioning Argentina at all to avoid issues arising since the Argentine visa will be in the old cancelled passport.
Please note that we still plan to scan other pages of the old passport that contains visa stamps of other countries she has been too such as UK which is where she did her masters (we got the UK PCC online, hassle free).

A candid n urgent response will be very very very appreciated. Thank you.
That would be misrepresentation which can lead you to a 5 year ban. Do it at your own risk.
 

crescent_jam

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Aug 21, 2017
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Kingston, Jamaica
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1121
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14-09-2017
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17-10-2017
VISA ISSUED...
26-10-2017
LANDED..........
19-01-2018
Hi everyone,

Please I need urgent assistance through your responses.

We have just received ITA.
Now the issue is that my wife has been to different countries in the past, of which one of them is Argentina.
Argentina will not give one police clearance certificate (PCC) in their absence or through online medium, they require one to come to the country to obtain this. Now my wife was able to get one in May this year two days before her departure from the country.

From our research, applications can get turned down because of PCC been obtained before one leaves the country or it been later than six months before submission.

My questions hence are these;
Is it possible for my wife to not mention Argentina as a country she has been to, and also avoid scanning that potion of her passport that bears the Argentine visa stamp.
Also her passport will expire in the next 8 months so we plan to wait till it's 6months to expiration to cancel that old passport and obtain a new one before submission of our ITA documents. It is because of this passport expiration that I was thinking of not mentioning Argentina at all to avoid issues arising since the Argentine visa will be in the old cancelled passport.
Please note that we still plan to scan other pages of the old passport that contains visa stamps of other countries she has been too such as UK which is where she did her masters (we got the UK PCC online, hassle free).

A candid n urgent response will be very very very appreciated. Thank you.
I agree with DelPiero07,
Not mentioning Argentina is a BAD idea. Even if you get the new passport in time (so IRCC doesn't see the travel stamp), I am quite certain it would still come up in your Background Check. You'd be deliberately withholding information.
 
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cubleron1

Member
Sep 19, 2017
11
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A quick question:
I teach English as a Second Language at a university. So does that mean I fall under the following NOC category:
  • ESL (English as a second language) teacher - college level NOC 4021
If you know anything about it, please advise. Thanks! :)
 

TanakaM

VIP Member
Dec 29, 2016
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14-04-17
Hi everyone,

Please I need urgent assistance through your responses.

We have just received ITA.
Now the issue is that my wife has been to different countries in the past, of which one of them is Argentina.
Argentina will not give one police clearance certificate (PCC) in their absence or through online medium, they require one to come to the country to obtain this. Now my wife was able to get one in May this year two days before her departure from the country.

From our research, applications can get turned down because of PCC been obtained before one leaves the country or it been later than six months before submission.

My questions hence are these;
Is it possible for my wife to not mention Argentina as a country she has been to, and also avoid scanning that potion of her passport that bears the Argentine visa stamp.
Also her passport will expire in the next 8 months so we plan to wait till it's 6months to expiration to cancel that old passport and obtain a new one before submission of our ITA documents. It is because of this passport expiration that I was thinking of not mentioning Argentina at all to avoid issues arising since the Argentine visa will be in the old cancelled passport.
Please note that we still plan to scan other pages of the old passport that contains visa stamps of other countries she has been too such as UK which is where she did her masters (we got the UK PCC online, hassle free).

A candid n urgent response will be very very very appreciated. Thank you.
That would be misrepresentation which can lead you to a 5 year ban. Do it at your own risk.
In addition, they do not rely on passport stamps to see our travel history. They have access to international security databases that show all our travel history. So if they find out this may indeed lead to a 5 year ban.

All the best
 
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TanakaM

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Could anyone please let me know what do I need in terms of job description from my employers? Thank you!
Hi,

You don't need a job description, you need a reference letter that contains the following information:
"
The following documents are mandatory for each work experience declared:

  • a reference or experience letter from the employer, which
    • should be an official document printed on company letterhead (must include the applicant’s name, the company’s contact information [address, telephone number and email address], and the name, title and signature of the immediate supervisor or personnel officer at the company),
    • should indicate all positions held while employed at the company and must include the following details: job title, duties and responsibilities, job status (if current job), dates worked for the company, number of work hours per week and annual salary plus benefits; and
  • if the applicant is self-employed, articles of incorporation or other evidence of business ownership, evidence of self-employment income and documentation from third-party individuals indicating the service provided along with payment details (self-declared main duties or affidavits are not acceptable proof of self-employed work experience).
If the work experience is in Canada, proof may include copies of T4 tax information slips and notices of assessment issued by the Canada Revenue Agency (the time period for these documents should reflect the work experience timeframe [e.g., work experience from 2006 to 2008 requires only documents from those calendar years])."

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp

All the best
 

TanakaM

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Dec 29, 2016
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AOR Received.
14-04-17
A quick question:
I teach English as a Second Language at a university. So does that mean I fall under the following NOC category:
  • ESL (English as a second language) teacher - college level NOC 4021
If you know anything about it, please advise. Thanks! :)
Hi,

Selecting an NOC has very little or nothing to do with your job title. It is all about your duties and responsibilities. So only you will know whether this NOC best suites your experience.

All the best
 
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