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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Dear Legalfalcon,

Requesting your advice on the following matter:

I am an FSW applicant, AOR is 8 April 2017, Medical passed and BGIP1 on 9 June 2017, BGNA since 14 June 2017.

Yesterday, I found out from an IRCC support centre agent that my file was being processed by Visa Office in Singapore. The agent could not confirm the date when the file had been transferred to Singapore as the file notes did not contain an email confirming the receipt by Visa Office in Singapore. She mentioned that IRCC usually receives 'Confirmation of receipt' email when files sent to visa offices outside Canada are received by those offices.

The agent informed that my file was last reviewed in Canada on 18 July 2017 and it must have been sent to Singapore shortly afterwards. She advised that there is no need for me to reach out to Visa Office in Singapore as my application is still within the normal processing time lines. Further to this, I was told that I have passed both R10 check and criminality check and everything looks good on my file.

Based on the above, kindly advise the best course of action:

- shall I wait until the end of 6 months from AOR (8 April 2017) before contacting CIC?
No need to worry, things seem to going fine. If you would like to know what stage your application is at, you can order GCMS notes. They are the best way to know what is happening.

- Shall I send an email to Visa Office either in Canada or in Singapore to get clarification regarding the file location or where it is being processed?
Not required. Its an internal movement and everything will go smooth. You GCMS notes will also indicate the same.

- If yes, shall I mention the call to IRCC support centre in that email?

Highly appreciate your guidance.

Thanks
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon

Connecting with you again for some advice and thanks in advance. :)

I noticed 5 points reduction in my crs score from 438 to 433. The decline was in the Human Capital Age. I had my birthday in between ITA and Application submission. I read on CIC website that post ITA they do not consider the age change if it is due to birthday and hence no change in points? Am i correct?

How can i resolve this?
As per IRCC policy this is what happens -

An applicant may have a birthday after they receive an ITA but before they submit their e-APR. Their change in age may lower their CRS score below the lowest score in the round of invitations. It may also result in the applicant no longer meeting the minimum requirements of the FSWC and, consequently, no longer meeting the MEC, resulting in a refusal based on section A11.2.

When a change in age results in the candidate no longer meeting the MEC or having their recalculated CRS points score fall below the lowest points score in that round of invitations, officers should consider applying the public policy to exempt applicants for permanent residence from certain age-based requirements between invitation to apply and application, based on section A25.2. This consideration can result in an exemption from the refusal of an application under section A11.2.

This public policy also grants an exemption to applicants who may be refused for failing to meet FSWC program requirements when their birthday occurs between the ITA and e-APR.



If your case falls in the above and still there is a score deduction, then you should immediately raise a CSE and inform them. If after the lower score you are still over the MEC and the CRS, there is nothing to worry.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Very strange. It's explicitly mentioned on CIC website that birthday between ITA and e-APR will not impact CRS. How did you get to know about this?
It does not say that it will not impact CRS, the policy only states that When a change in age results in the candidate no longer meeting the MEC or having their recalculated CRS points score fall below the lowest points score in that round of invitations, officers should consider applying the public policy to exempt applicants for permanent residence from certain age-based requirements between invitation to apply and application, based on section A25.2. This consideration can result in an exemption from the refusal of an application under section A11.2.

It is not mandatory, but discretionary and many factors are taken into consideration when this is applied..
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Dear @legalfalcon ,

Please guide me on the following issue:

I received PPR a few days ago. My wife is a medical doctor and her name includes Dr in her passport. Since it is a title and not her name I did not include the Dr title in the application. The CIC status page also lists her name without the Dr title. Also I had included an affidavit with our application mentioning that Dr is a title which she attained after getting her medical degree and also listed a nickname she has.

Now after attaining PPR and while filling out the Appendix B I am now confused as to whether include the Dr title or exclude it when filling out the name and also writing on her photo. Your help regarding this would be much appreciated.
Only include the name, not the title. Most passports will not allow the title, if your country does, then do not include it.
 
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highheel987

Star Member
Sep 3, 2016
125
73
Visa Office......
Ottawa
App. Filed.......
29-09-2016
AOR Received.
20-01-2017
Passport Req..
06-10-2017
LANDED..........
04-11-2017
hi @legalfalcon

I have received my GCMS notes this week. While reading through it I found some sections on some pages were missing. and I found s.26 and s.22(1) (b) marking in top right corner of those page.
I have ordered notes under Privacy Act. can you please help decode this markings please?

Thanks
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi,
Me and my spouse both are Indian citizen but our son is Canadian as he was born during our visit to Canada. While filling an application after receiving ITA, i have mentioned he is Canada citizen and residing in India. Now when i moved to next page - checklist, here, CIC is asking fees for his PR. But my understanding is, it shouldnt be. Please correct me.

Thanks.
You should not be asked to pay for your Canadian child's PR fee. You can raise a technical query and get this sorted out.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi,
In checklist, It asks for multiple document in Passport/Travel documents. I have only mentioned 1 passport. I am not sure, why it is asking multiple documents.
Is it because i was in Canada, so do i need to upload WP as well ?

Also i was in other countries but for those, do i need to upload as well ?

Thanks
Multiple documents is the generic term used as many people have passports and identity cards form their countries. If you only have a passport, just scan and upload it, all pages. If you have an online passport with visas or arrival and departure stamps, then that should be included too.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Dear Legalfalcon,

I am into my ITA stage, I have got a reference letter from my past employer where I worked for almost 3 years.
I have everything covered in the letter except all my designations. it only shows my last working designation.

I was Assistant Systems Engineer - Trainee --> Assistant Systems Engineer -->Systems Engineer.
But the letter shows only my Last designation i.e. Systems Engineer

Can you suggest if this is a problem? or what can I do in this case so it won't cause any troubles to my profile.

Thanks.
As per IRCC, the reference letter should mention all designations you have held. If your reference letter does not mention that, then you can include it in the LoE, and add any supporting documents, like any communication you received from work with your designation, or a promotion letter. Nothing to be too concerned, but clarifying this is much better.
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
hi @legalfalcon

I have received my GCMS notes this week. While reading through it I found some sections on some pages were missing. and I found s.26 and s.22(1) (b) marking in top right corner of those page.
I have ordered notes under Privacy Act. can you please help decode this markings please?

Thanks
S 26 and s22 are the same corresponding section which you see in the s15 / 16 of the access to information act. The sections are exactly the same but will differ depending whether you ordered the notes under the privacy act of access to information act.

You can read on s15./16 here https://www.getgcms.com/blog/s15-s16-top-right-gcms-denote/
 

axolotl

Star Member
Apr 17, 2017
186
249
Did the email come for the following addresses - IRCC.CPCO-FinalRequest-CTDO-DemandeFinale.IRCC@cic.gc.ca or a similar one, then yes this is the PPR.
Yes.

Citizens of visa free country do not need to send their passports. But follow the instructions in the PPR, and if they are not applicable to you, send an email and clarify.

You can request that your partner is in Netherland and would like to submit the passport there, IRCC will send you the instructions for it.

Congratulations!
Thanks a lot! I've sent an email to IRCC. I'll also call them on Monday and see if I can convince them it's a mistake and accept photocopies instead.
 

ameydixit

Full Member
Apr 7, 2016
46
20
@legalfalcon
I am FSW Outland and my timeline is:
AOR 22 Feb
Medicaid passed 8 march
NA2 28 April
Rprf 2 may

There has been no change post rprf mail on 1st may. Few months ago due to technical glitch the additional documents section showed 'additional docs required' but no mail or message ever came. I wrote to CIC couple of times but nothing from their end.

It's been 177 days post AOR for us, can you please help me understand
1. Why is it taking them so long (28 April is more than 3.5 months)
2. What do they do in BG IP2?

Would really appreciate your input on this. Thank you very much
 

Indi88

Star Member
Jan 29, 2017
188
42
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
01-04-2017
@legalfalcon

I have not received my notes yet.
I ordered it on 17th July and they asked for new consent form to be filled as it had only my digital signature. Do you know from prior cases how long does it take to receive the notes?

Thanking you in advance.

This is because you signed the consent form online as in on a computer using a software like Acrobat PDF or Preview on Mac. Just gat a new consent form fill it, take a print, sign it with pen and send it again.

When you electronically sign a document, you are issued a key, and an audit log from there that is verified, but I doubt that is the case, so just follows the above.

For details read - https://www.signix.com/blog/bid/109963/The-Anatomy-of-An-Audit-Trail-A-Guide-to-Digital-Signature-Evidence
 

vaibhav007us

Hero Member
Jun 1, 2016
208
0
Hi legalfalcon, my query relates to PR card. While completing our landing, we gave our temporary address in canada for PR card. However, now we want to change it. Can you please guide me in how this can be done for myself and family?
 

vaibhav007us

Hero Member
Jun 1, 2016
208
0
One more question legalfalcon, after landing, are there any updates which come in online profile? Or the profile remains same that your application has been approved.
 

prais3jos3ph

Star Member
Jul 24, 2016
138
11
Canada
Category........
CEC
App. Filed.......
19th June 2017
AOR Received.
20th June 2017
You should only notify of address change after you leave the country and not in anticipation. In an eventuality that you get PPR right when you are about to move, you can inform IRCC and they will change your VO and send you new instructions for the country you will move to.
Thanks LegalFalcon.
It was not in anticipation but I was planning to move from my current job. Since the PR is being processed, kinda wanted it not to suffer coz of the move. So I can move and notify them after that regardless of a PPR or not