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Please tell me which post i put was misleading?!!! The atip website crealy says you can order if u are a pr, citizen or present in Canada.
https://atip-aiprp.apps.gc.ca/atip/welcome.do

If you are in Canada and you are someone's representative you can request under access to information.

I do not belong to getgcms which is a private company charging people who do not have enough info.

If it is against the law to order gcnote when u live in Canada without being pr please provide an atip reference.

I have quoted the Access to Information Act and the Privacy Act. They are available http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/a-1/

and http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/p-21/

As regards info, I have provided elaborate info on how to order GCMS notes, specifically stating how to USE ATIP on my thread http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/all-about-gcms-how-to-order-read-general-questions-answered.482200/

You are more than welcome to read the acts and interpret them in any way you want. I don't work for any private company, but endorse companies who have a not for profit initiative.

I am not here to argue with you, but if any information is incorrect, I will point that out.
 

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For csis u dont have to order under atip and you can mail/fax the consent form and cover letter to csis and it is free but if you dont get is there is no way to follow up. It is better to order it under atip and attach both consent forms. If u order if for an individual who is outside of canada u have to select access to information and pay $5

The information you are quoting in different threads has been exhaustively mentioned by me in the post above:

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/the-anatomy-of-a-background-check-in-depth-analysis.500146/page-16#post-6254991
 

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People can order anything under atip if they live in Canada and are not PR if you say no please give the proof before referring them to pay for it under that private webpage.

I brought csis and cbsa discussion up in your thread the first time. I hope it helped people.
 

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People can order anything under atip if they live in Canada and are not PR if you say no please give the proof before referring them to pay for it under that private webpage.

I brought csis and cbsa discussion up in your thread the first time. I hope it helped people.
You can go ahead and do whatever you want and write anything. I have provided you with the links of the respective acts, and the sections clearly state that. What you want to do, or expect others to do, is entirely your prerogative. The law is written and anyone who wishing to violate it can do so at their own peril. I am not here to police what others do, or for that matter what you do, how you interpret law, or what you feel is right.
 

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You can go ahead and do whatever you want and write anything. I have provided you with the links of the respective acts, and the sections clearly state that. What you want to do, or expect others to do, is entirely your prerogative. The law is written and anyone who wishing to violate it can do so at their own peril. I am not here to police what others do, or for that matter what you do, how you interpret law, or what you feel is right.
It is not a violation of law. Look at atip website what does a person present in Canada mean to you? I ordered gcms note when i was a student and all my friends did the same and got it for free and it was not and is not a violation of law.
 

legalfalcon

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It is not a violation of law. Look at atip website what does a person present in Canada mean to you? I ordered gcms note when i was a student and all my friends did the same and got it for free and it was not and is not a violation of law.
Good for you.

All the best!
 

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Again, read the thread. The information on how to obtain the report is on the first page of the thread with the address and with the details on how to do it. See http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/the-anatomy-of-a-background-check-in-depth-analysis.500146/#post-6082869

Specifically Question G.
There are two ways to order csis report
1st the way u explained through mailing or faxing csis which is fine
2nd u didnt explain through atip website choosing csis department

Thanks for understanding both
 

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Good for you.

All the best![/QUOTE

I already got pr and citizenship. All my family and friends ordered gcnotes while there were living in Canada and were not pr and it is 100% legal
To be eligible to make a request under the Access to Information Act or the Privacy Act, you must be a Canadian citizen, a permanent resident of Canada or an individual or corporation currently present in Canada.

Only if you live outside canada and are not pr u will need a representative living in canada to request it for you.
 

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legalfalcon

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Where did u explain cbsa? It says report goes from csis to ircc but actually cbsa is in the middle.
The information provided here is voluntary information. IRCC does not publish how applications are processed and which agency processes them in what order. This has been complied based on available information. If you have any additional information, then add instead of questioning others on why they have not provided something.

CBSA through the National Security Screening Division (NSSD) of the International Operations Directorate of CBSA conducts security screening in the context of applications for temporary residence visas, applications for permanent residence visas and claims for refugee protection. In this context only, NSSD provides recommendations on admissibility on national security cases related to section(s) 34, 35 and/or 37 of IRPA. Further, CBSA has the sole prerogative of deciding admissibility on criminality, especially for applicants who have committed a criminal offence or have been known to be involved in organized crime.

While Security screening for prospective immigrants have to run through CSIS, it is run though CBSA, when IRCC suspects that an applicant may be inadmissible.

Further, Operating Procedures published in 2015, i.e. after EE, categorically state, "When sending a case for security screening [to CBSA], officers should include as much information as possible, including details on adverse information." Available <http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/enf/enf02-eng.pdf>

This is why I did not refer to CBSA. Further, CBSA working through NSSD, whose procedure manuals are not published, it is difficult to determine how they operate.

Alos, for the National Security inadmissibility is a cluster of 9 agencies, to which inputs are provided by CSIS and any one, or a few or all of them can be asked to look into a specific case.

National Security Inadmissibility Initiative is defined by the combined activities of the following nine federal partners:

  • Public Safety Canada (PS)
  • Justice Canada (JUS)
  • Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA)
  • Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS)
  • Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC)
  • Department of Global Affairs Canada (GAC)
  • Courts Administration Services (CAS)
  • Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada (IRB)
  • Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP).
Information from all of them can be obtained from ATIP.

I am not here to write a new manual for IRCC, rather to briefly summarize, which are easy to understand.

This is my last response to you, since you know all.

All the best!
 

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There are two ways to order csis report
1st the way u explained through mailing or faxing csis which is fine
2nd u didnt explain through atip website choosing csis department

Thanks for understanding both
What do you mean by ( 2nd u didn't explain through atip website choosing csis department ) ???
 

legalfalcon

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What do you mean by ( 2nd u didn't explain through atip website choosing csis department ) ???
CSIS report and any information can be obtained under Access to Information Act. However, while applying through Information Act, the process is generic for obtaining any information, and is not specific for security clearances.

For obtaining IRCC related security clearances CSIS has listed the process which is available on their web page and has been listed on the first page of this thread.

https://www.csis.gc.ca/scrtscrnng/index-en.php#bm02

While applying through ATIP, you can chose to get email in electronic format, however for IRCC related security clearances the information is only provided by mail, and replies are not sent by email or fax
  • a return mailing address as replies are not sent by email or fax.
 

Hanan22

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CSIS report and any information can be obtained under Access to Information Act. However, while applying through Information Act, the process is generic for obtaining any information, and is not specific for security clearances.

For obtaining IRCC related security clearances CSIS has listed the process which is available on their web page and has been listed on the first page of this thread.

https://www.csis.gc.ca/scrtscrnng/index-en.php#bm02

While applying through ATIP, you can chose to get email in electronic format, however for IRCC related security clearances the information is only provided by mail, and replies are not sent by email or fax
  • a return mailing address as replies are not sent by email or fax.
Thanks for your reply, I already red your post but I thought that I can get the information back via email but seems I can't.
Thank you