Citizenship Applications after Bill C-6

[hangincanada]

as shown in cic's picture, we will see the changes once the leaves turn red... they are still quite green now. have fun in the summertime.

 

[kilamans]

There was a new application form issued in June, following the implementation of parts of Bill C-6. For example, this version (06-2017 version) does not include an intent-to-reside item, since the intent requirement was repealed and removed effective June 19, 2017. (In the previous application version, 10-2016, that was item 10; as I recall, in the current version item 10 is about using a representative.)

The application form which will be applicable for 3/5 rule applicants is not currently available. It is not likely to become available before the day the 3/5 rule takes effect. Likewise the presence calculator. It is likely the online presence calculator will continue to be the current one, the one designed for the 4/6 rule, until the day before the new 3/5 rule takes effect. Then, the next day, or within a few days at most, the calculator to use with a 3/5 rule application will become available.

Much of the application form will remain the same, such as the basic information items and most of the prohibitions items (prohibitions based on convictions, for example, will continue to cover the preceding four years). Language requirement item will remain the same. (Not sure if or how that part might change when the more liberal age exception takes effect.)

Most of the changes are easily forecast: work and address history, for example, will cover five years rather than six. Otherwise it will be structured the same as in the current form.

It should not be difficult to gather and organize almost all the relevant information in advance, and be prepared to populate the new form as soon as it becomes available. It should be available either the day the new rules take effect or within a short time after that. But of course it will not be possible to prepare actual rough drafts, let alone prepare the application itself in advance, prior to when the new forms become available.

I suppose there is some possibility that the new forms, for the 3/5 rule, might be made available some time prior to when the 3/5 rule takes effect. Based on past practices, however, that seems quite unlikely. IRCC is not likely to make two different adult-grant application forms available at the same time. In the past, during such transitions the new form is not available until it is actually the proper, applicable form.

We will have a new version on this, because under 'J Income Tax Information' it still says 4 out of 6 years

Complete the table below... ...in respect of four (4) taxation years that are fully or partially within the six (6) years....


And from question 6 onwards, it still refers to 6 years of address, biographical pages form passport, so this form is not for people who are 3/5 years...

 

[Plato]

Hi guys,

Can someone tell me if days as a visitor will be counted towards eligibility? I know workers and students can count each day as half a day, can visitors do the same? If so, are there any parameters on the type of visit? Like if I went to Toronto for 20 days 10 years ago, does that mean I'll be able to put 10 days towards citizenship eligibility? Thanks!

 

[kilamans]

Hi guys,

Can someone tell me if days as a visitor will be counted towards eligibility? I know workers and students can count each day as half a day, can visitors do the same? If so, are there any parameters on the type of visit? Like if I went to Toronto for 20 days 10 years ago, does that mean I'll be able to put 10 days towards citizenship eligibility? Thanks!

ofcourse not

A - workers in Work Permit
B - Students during their Work Permit days
C - visitors get Work Permit?, if yes then they fall under A

 

[CanadianC]

ofcourse not

A - workers in Work Permit
B - Students during their Work Permit days
C - visitors get Work Permit?, if yes then they fall under A

I think you meant study permit for students, not the work permit

 

[Divine Favour]

question for you all. is it ok to put home residence address in toronto and mailing address in hamilton because i want to apply in hamilton. will that cause a problem? thanks for your feedback

 

[itsmyid]

Hi guys,

Can someone tell me if days as a visitor will be counted towards eligibility? I know workers and students can count each day as half a day, can visitors do the same? If so, are there any parameters on the type of visit? Like if I went to Toronto for 20 days 10 years ago, does that mean I'll be able to put 10 days towards citizenship eligibility? Thanks!

It was more than 5 (in your example, 10) years ago, it won't count at all, doesn't matter it's student visa or visitor visa

 

[subha_1962]

In the past there were many questions as to whether even though the intent to reside is gone with C6, some said that the processing times would go higher if one is out of the country during application processing time. But this may seem a foolish question, once we mail our application and our passport pages etc, how would CIC know one is out of the country?

 

[dpenabill]

. . . once we mail our application and our passport pages etc, how would CIC know one is out of the country?

If you change the location where you are actually living YOU are obligated to give IRCC notice of the change. In fact, current address is actually one of only a few items in the application which can change, regarding which the applicant verifies he or she will give IRCC prompt notice of any change.

Or the applicant can play misrepresentation roulette. (Misrepresentation by omission.)

Apart from that, there are all sorts of clues that can pop up, leading to questions, leading to answers illuminating extended absences from Canada.

Applicants may also be asked about current employment in the interview. (I was, before there was any intent to reside provision.)

CBSA travel history will, of course, reveal if the applicant recently returned to Canada in time for the interview. It is not clear when IRCC might check this source of information. Some applicants have been explicitly told it would be checked after the interview.

But of course it may depend on how closely IRCC is scrutinizing the particular applicant. So many may sail smoothly through despite fudging a bit. Others will be dragged into the hassle of RQ with all its inconvenient collateral consequences, from its profound intrusion into one's privacy to potentially lengthy delays in the process.

Then there is the downside of answering questions in a way to conceal one's time abroad after applying and IRCC finds out anyway, and concludes the applicant's credibility is compromised. This can go from moderately problematic to way off the rails. Once IRCC questions the applicant's credibility, it can be really tough to succeed . . . or, at the far extreme, if IRCC identifies explicit misrepresentations, there could be a spell of time in secured public housing (the kind with bars on the windows). The latter tends to be unlikely, but there are occasional prosecutions resulting in actual jail time. Not really worth playing those odds. The odds are good (sure many get away with rather too much). But the consequences of losing tend to be rather bad.

 

[CANADIANZ]

Liberals overhaul citizenship test:

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/taxes-census-treaties-described-as-obligations-of-citizenship-in-new-guide/wcm/016bf5ad-58df-4924-82b4-78ea5168e768

Interesting, not sure when these changes take place in the discover Canada book.

 

[wwe]

Just be honest. Living outside of Canada does not disqualify you, its just makes you to submit some additional proof.
Apply with 3-4 months of extra from the min days to apply. This will ensure that there is no foul play here.
However, is they are suspicious, you can show proof of entry/exit stamps.
Remember, this is liberal government who are very liberal
Previously this was the case that they keep you waiting because that's was the Harper era.

In the past there were many questions as to whether even though the intent to reside is gone with C6, some said that the processing times would go higher if one is out of the country during application processing time. But this may seem a foolish question, once we mail our application and our passport pages etc, how would CIC know one is out of the country?

 

[Joshua1]

One way to prepare to fill out forms as they become available is to maintain some type of record on excel or notebook. (I use excel)

Entry / Exit stamps, Travel History
Your home address for last 5 years
Your job / study info for last 5 years

This will help you in track if you will need any of the documents and will give you enough time to gather docs...

I'm looking for confirmation. Please explain why do you need Entry/Exit stamps and Travel History when it's advised that it's best to authorized Canada Border Services Agency to release the report directly to CIC?

 

[Danielari2016]

It was more than 5 (in your example, 10) years ago, it won't count at all, doesn't matter it's student visa or visitor visa

I came to Canada as a visitor (3rd October 2014- 16 August 2015) renewed my visa by the way, work visa (21 August 2015 - 14th June 2016) and i got my PR on 14th June 2016, how about my visitor visa days count for PR? i have spent 11 months on visitor visa.

 

[Bs65]

I came to Canada as a visitor (3rd October 2014- 16 August 2015) renewed my visa by the way, work visa (21 August 2015 - 14th June 2016) and i got my PR on 14th June 2016, how about my visitor visa days count for PR? i have spent 11 months on visitor visa.

Visitors/tourist time cannot be counted, only time on a study permit or a work permit and it is believed only any time in the 5 years preceeding the application date.

 

[HeroMember]

Hello guys, does anybody know that we can submit the police certificate from back home after we send the citizenship application or do we have to send it along with the application? Can we send it 3 or 4 months after we send the application?