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Would this plan work? Feedback appricated (spousal sponsorship)

OmarMark

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More than anything I truly wish to sponsor my girlfriend but we're not currently married and can't get religiously married in Lebanon for another 3 years. There is no way for us to live in a common-law relationship and because there's no real law against our marriage the conjugal application is out of the question.

So in effort to not keep our long distance relationship from being extended another 3 years I'd like to post my plan in hopes to recieve some feedback.

During December of 2017 I would like to send her a visiting visa invite to come to Canada during her 2 week winter break. Her strings attached would be her university education. She's been in schooling for 3 years and this would be her 4th and final. We can show semester payments for the spring as well as her upcoming graduation to recieve her bachelor's and a colloquium test she needs to have done for the medical field. Will that be enough?

If being her partner and sending an invite is too risky she also has an aunt in Canada who can send one instead.

After landing in Canada we planned on having a civil marriage. From what I've read this is possible even though she's not a canadian citizen like myself and is on a visting visa.

After receiving our marriage certificate we planned on than applying for spousal sponsorship. If we can make it in time i'll have her send it inland or if its better to send it from her home country in Lebanon we can have that done after she returns as well.

A year later, hopefully December 2018 she would be accepted for her PR.

We've checked other requirements and have plenty of proof for genuinity and don't have much worries about proving our relationship.

If you guys see any flaws or issues within the plan it would be highly appricated if they'd be pointed out.

Thank you for your time!
 

scylla

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The only potential flaw is that TRVs tend to be difficult to obtain for individuals who are young, single, and who have relatively few ties to their home country. Has she traveled to countries requiring visas in the past (e.g. UK, Europe, etc.)?
 

OmarMark

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The only potential flaw is that TRVs tend to be difficult to obtain for individuals who are young, single, and who have relatively few ties to their home country. Has she traveled to countries requiring visas in the past (e.g. UK, Europe, etc.)?
Unfortunately not. We're primarily worried about that issue as well but the schooling tie is a strong one. Who's going to complete 3 years of med school and stop a semester before their bachelor's. It's also why she'll prepay for the spring and show its paid off on a date right before she applies for intentions to return. As well as the fact it lines up with winter break plenty of where people travel. Think it'd be rejected?
 

scylla

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It's really impossible for any of us to say if the application will be approved or refused. However her ties aren't that strong.

I would have her aunt send the invitation letter rather than you.
 

OmarMark

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It's really impossible for any of us to say if the application will be approved or refused. However her ties aren't that strong.

I would have her aunt send the invitation letter rather than you.
That gets us a little nervous since It's that or three years over distance. I appricate the info greatly and will ensure the aunt sends the invitation instead.
 

starnaenae

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Make sure before she comes she sends you all of her required docs. Have the app ready to go when shes here - check versions
 

OmarMark

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Make sure before she comes she sends you all of her required docs. Have the app ready to go when shes here - check versions
The sponsor application correct? When we civil marry should we add marriage certificate and than mail the application inland?
 

starnaenae

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The sponsor application correct? When we civil marry should we add marriage certificate and than mail the application inland?
You need to include a copy of the certificate. We applied outland and hes here. I didnt want to risk having the application refused if he had to go home for something and was refused entry back into canada. I can support us both so there was no need to do inland in my opinion
 

happymama

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If being her partner and sending an invite is too risky she also has an aunt in Canada who can send one instead.
I have to chime in here... I think it may be risky to have her aunt send the invite letter and then you end up getting married. The VO eventually processing your file may see it as misinterpretation and question why you weren't the one inviting her if marriage was your intention all along. All of these details will eventually come up during your application process so just give it a thought.
 

canadianwoman

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It would be better to apply outland, simply because if she gets a TRV and then applies inland, she won't in fact be able to finish school. With an inland application, she has to stay in Canada. If she left and could not get back in, the application would be over.
It is probably OK to have her aunt send the invitation letter. Lots of people have had someone other than their boyfriend or girlfriend invite them, then gotten married. Of course the visa officer will notice this, but on the other hand it has not often been an reason for refusal of the PR visa.
 
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OmarMark

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You need to include a copy of the certificate. We applied outland and hes here. I didnt want to risk having the application refused if he had to go home for something and was refused entry back into canada. I can support us both so there was no need to do inland in my opinion
Considering I can't get the marriage certificate until 6-8 weeks after according to what I'm reading i'll have to send a copy over to her after so she can send over the forms. We're a little worried if they'll accept her goverment ID from lebanon. She has a passport a birth certificate and a lebanese citizenship paper she can bring for the civil marriage. Think that'll work?
 

OmarMark

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It would be better to apply outland, simply because if she gets a TRV and then applies inland, she won't in fact be able to finish school. With an inland application, she has to stay in Canada. If she left and could not get back in, the application would be over.
It is probably OK to have her aunt send the invitation letter. Lots of people have had someone other than their boyfriend or girlfriend invite them, then gotten married. Of course the visa officer will notice this, but on the other hand it has not often been an reason for refusal of the PR visa.
Following up on that note, her aunt has invited much of her family from Lebanon to visit in the past and they've all returned without issue. I thought it'd be better for that reason since she would also just be another family member. Whole hearitly and honestly her aunt had the intention of inviting her before me and her even met in the past.
 

OmarMark

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I have to chime in here... I think it may be risky to have her aunt send the invite letter and then you end up getting married. The VO eventually processing your file may see it as misinterpretation and question why you weren't the one inviting her if marriage was your intention all along. All of these details will eventually come up during your application process so just give it a thought.
I was thinking about her aunt because her aunt has invited people from the family before and they've visited and returned without an issue. Plus her aunt had intentions of inviting her before our intentions of marriage. We understand the concern though.
 
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canuck_in_uk

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I have to chime in here... I think it may be risky to have her aunt send the invite letter and then you end up getting married. The VO eventually processing your file may see it as misinterpretation and question why you weren't the one inviting her if marriage was your intention all along. All of these details will eventually come up during your application process so just give it a thought.
The word you are looking for is "misrepresentation", not "misinterpretation".

The aunt inviting her would NOT be considered misrepresentation.
 

OmarMark

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The word you are looking for is "misrepresentation", not "misinterpretation".

The aunt inviting her would NOT be considered misrepresentation.
I don't think they'd be a problem either. Her aunt would be inviting her because she's invited from her family previously plus their really good friends anyhow and she'd stay with her too.