Bill C-6: Senate stage

[Confused in Montreal]

Hi friends, I need your advice. I lost my and my wife's COPR. What to do now? How I can get a copy from CIC or what should asked for. Thanks

As far as I know from my friend's experience, COPR copy can be sent. The copy that CBSA retains at the time of landing and sends to CIC. My frnd received a certified copy from CIC, meaning that it is valid even as it a copy of the original and there is way to verify the original. Thus CIC takes care of that. But it took close to 3 months plus. Verification of status, I have no ideas. Maybe apply for both. As far as I know, if your country of origin doesn't accept dual citizenship and you need to surrender, then they need COPR for sure. Well rules can change from embassy to embassy too. If that's the case, please check the embassy's website and see what docs are needed if you need to surrender the citizenship. Plus request a copy of COPR for future CPP payments, if eligible. Just saying.

 

[Confused in Montreal]

Checked the link, the verification of status request actually has an option of requesting lost COPR. So the member who posted the link is right, the form is called verification of status but lets you request a plethora of docs. Hope it helps.

 

[Joshua1]

Here is my 2 cents. In the way it worked before c24 with was 3/4 with pre-PR credit, the credit was never limited to just the 4 years as that wouldn't really make sense because there would be no need to limit the credit to a year because the maximum you could get then would be a year anyway.

So unless this new 3/5 rule is explicitly changing that, then you will be able to count ANY time spent as a worker/student/refugee towards citizenship, not just the last 5 years. In fact, since it's not explicitly written in the law that the pre-PR credit is limited to the 5 year period, it makes it open to challenge. So I'm 99.9% sure that there isn't that limit.

I'll go dig into the wording of the pre C-24 act to find the wording if I have time.

Open to challenge?!!? To forum debates or CIC. If it's the latter, I'd say: keep on dreaming.

 

[electronus]

Good day guys,
CIC have changed app form:
Application for Canadian Citizenship — Adults [Form CIT 0002] (PDF, 1.82 MB) June 2017
However calc is still the old one...

 

[Marooned2]

Good day guys,
CIC have changed app form:
Application for Canadian Citizenship — Adults [Form CIT 0002] (PDF, 1.82 MB) June 2017
However calc is still the old one...

Well calc must be the old one, while 4/6 is still in effect.

 

[CANADIANZ]

Good day guys,
CIC have changed app form:
Application for Canadian Citizenship — Adults [Form CIT 0002] (PDF, 1.82 MB) June 2017
However calc is still the old one...

That is good news, they managed to update forms with in few days. In my humble opinion, that gives a idea that they will be effectively putting other changes as promised (at-least not with unnecessary delays) by fall of this year!

I think the exact date of when 3/5 rule becomes effective will be announced soon after summer vacations. (or my wishful thinking is by June 30th!) Please note this is my personal opinion.

 

[JasFer]

Need some help...

While applying for citizenship it says I need a Police Certificate if I've been in any other country for more than 180 days. Can someone please tell me how recent the certificate should be? I will be applying in October this year. Thank you!

 

[GiantPanda]

Need some help...

While applying for citizenship it says I need a Police Certificate if I've been in any other country for more than 180 days. Can someone please tell me how recent the certificate should be? I will be applying in October this year. Thank you!

Please see below the section of the CIC website on this subject, which is self explanatory. I expect the 4 year requirement currently will change to 3 years once the 3/5 rule is implemented:

9. Police certificate(s) (as required)
You are required to provide a police certificate for each country, other than Canada, where you were present for a total of 183 days or more during the four (4) years immediately before the date of your application.

 

[Confused in Montreal]

Please see below the section of the CIC website on this subject, which is self explanatory. I expect the 4 year requirement currently will change to 3 years once the 3/5 rule is implemented:

9. Police certificate(s) (as required)
You are required to provide a police certificate for each country, other than Canada, where you were present for a total of 183 days or more during the four (4) years immediately before the date of your application.

Same as PR application, you need to provide a police certificate for every stay of more than 180 days. The certificate cna be old as it doesn't matter as it verifies no police records during that time period. If you happen to go there again say after an year for another 180 days, then you may ask them for verification for the two said time periods. If you already have obtained one for the previous stint, then you may just ask for the latter period and attach two certificates. Crux, age of certificate doesn't matters but it should match the dates that you have mentioned in your application. Hope it helps. Plus as other member pointed out, no need to provide any certificates for stays beyond 4 years prior to your application.

 

[Confused in Montreal]

Good day guys,
CIC have changed app form:
Application for Canadian Citizenship — Adults [Form CIT 0002] (PDF, 1.82 MB) June 2017
However calc is still the old one...

The form has not been changed. The dates have been, upon downloading, it still says 4 years prior to all the requirements including stays and taxations. We might still have to wait for the one that asks for data in the last three years prior to the application.

 

[rashcanada]

Hello Friends,
> Is there a place (may be airport authority) where we can get our days of stay verified? searching for visa stamping etc normally takes lot of time.
> If a person goes to work (truking/other) to other countries regularly & stays there for 36-48 hours before returning, would the absent days be counted? As a Canadian firm is sending for work.
> With 3/5 coming into affect sooner than later, do you think the workload would be increased & the backlog would start hurting the new application holders?

 

[Marooned2]

Hello Friends,
> Is there a place (may be airport authority) where we can get our days of stay verified? searching for visa stamping etc normally takes lot of time.
> If a person goes to work (truking/other) to other countries regularly & stays there for 36-48 hours before returning, would the absent days be counted? As a Canadian firm is sending for work.
> With 3/5 coming into affect sooner than later, do you think the workload would be increased & the backlog would start hurting the new application holders?

1. No. You need to prepare a complete list for the application form yourself. However since you're travel seems to be very frequent not sure if all can fit or should be entered in that form.
2. If you left Canada on say 20th morning and came back on 21th evening then you are fine, both days count as you being residing here. You should count the days off, where at no time during that day, you were not in Canada.
3. Maybe. Nobody knows for sure.

 

[chilkootcee]

Thank you for your clarification. Thus, based on your clarification, any visitor would be able to show residence in Canada by virtue of an entry and exit stamp on their passport and claim pre-PR credit.

I don't believe CBSA stamps passports on exit....I know there was talk about it...unless it has been implemented now??

C.

 

[razerblade]

I don't believe CBSA stamps passports on exit....I know there was talk about it...unless it has been implemented now??

C.

They still don't stamp exits.

 

[dpenabill]

Please see below the section of the CIC website on this subject, which is self explanatory. I expect the 4 year requirement currently will change to 3 years once the 3/5 rule is implemented:

9. Police certificate(s) (as required)
You are required to provide a police certificate for each country, other than Canada, where you were present for a total of 183 days or more during the four (4) years immediately before the date of your application.

Regarding this changing: Again. No. Wrong. The requirement to submit a police certificate is NOT about or related to the presence requirement. The change from a 4/6 rule to a 3/5 rule is not relevant.

The police certificate is about the prohibition for a conviction of a crime outside Canada. This is prescribed in Section 22(3), which is NOT affected or changed by Bill C-6. The period of time specified is FOUR years and will continue to be four years (unless amended by another bill in the future). So there is virtually no likelihood that the four year period will change to 3 years when the 3/5 rule is implemented.