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StevieFray

Hero Member
Jan 26, 2015
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Nomination.....
17-07-2017
Passport Req..
15-01-2018
My reference letter has only my manager's email id.
The HR refused to put in the phone number of my manager due to security reasons.
Is that fine?
I would state that you should explain the issue. Also give them the email and telephone number to reach them. I think a lot of folks forget that visa officers review on a case by case basis. You could have the correct format of reference letters AND STILL get rejected. Inversely, you may have digressed from the original format but with an appropriate explanation and supportive documents for evidence you can STILL be approved. Nothing is written in black and white especially if you don't have a representative. Actually, you have more flexibility if you don't even have one. The VOs understand that challenges may arise. Your duty is to convince them in the veracity of your claim.

Most employers are unwilling to follow that format provided by CIC. Why? Because the employer has their own guidelines, take it or leave it. So you as the principal applicant has to fill in that gap through explanation and providing further evidence.
 

jes_ON

VIP Member
Jun 22, 2009
12,088
1,421
Category........
Visa Office......
New York
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-May-2010
AOR Received.
13-Aug-2010
File Transfer...
01-Mar-2011
Passport Req..
30-Jun-2011
VISA ISSUED...
12-Jul-2011 (received 25-Jul-2011)
LANDED..........
03-Sep-2011
Hello all,
I found my NOC (2173) is regulated. So I selected yes. Next question that came up is " What have you done so far to get this license or certificate? ". There's no option I can select because I haven't contacted regulatory body that issues license yet. My question is that if I select no for the first question, will that be a problem and cause my visa to be rejected? Please advise
Actually... the entire NOC is not regulated, you can work as a software engineer without licensing. You ONLY need to be licensed if you want to practice as a "Professional Engineer" (P.Eng.). You must be a P.Eng. to approve drawings and reports and to use the title.

Having said that, it's a really good thing to have if you qualify...

Confusing, to have a "partly regulated" occupation, but this NOC is very different from, say, a registered nurse or pharmacist, where licensing is mandatory in all provinces.
 

jes_ON

VIP Member
Jun 22, 2009
12,088
1,421
Category........
Visa Office......
New York
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-May-2010
AOR Received.
13-Aug-2010
File Transfer...
01-Mar-2011
Passport Req..
30-Jun-2011
VISA ISSUED...
12-Jul-2011 (received 25-Jul-2011)
LANDED..........
03-Sep-2011
My reference letter has only my manager's email id.
The HR refused to put in the phone number of my manager due to security reasons.
Is that fine?
As long as the letter includes a generic phone number (or HR's phone number), it's not a problem.
 

astralsource

Champion Member
Jul 10, 2016
2,059
1,239
Croatia
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa, ON
NOC Code......
5122
App. Filed.......
22-04-2017
AOR Received.
22-04-2017
Med's Request
19-06-2017
Med's Done....
13-04-2017
2 more people rejected on the tracker, and 76 days after AOR because of a PC (TRAVEL HISTORY SHOWED MORE THAN 6 MONTHS CUMULATIVE STAYING IN THE COUNTRY)
 
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Mohammad Wally

Star Member
Oct 19, 2013
122
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Please need expert advice
its not necessarily a problem. if you are clear about everything, then you shouldn't be worried. if your job is valid and as long you are doing it properly and submitting an application with authentic paper, then you are fine. there are lot of people in this forum have submitted their employment letter from their sister, brother and still got PR. its all about how you prepare your papers, its all about your neatness. I hope I made you understand.
 

Mohammad Wally

Star Member
Oct 19, 2013
122
15
1 - Yes, expect the officer to have suspicion as to whether your skilled work experience is actually valid. Provide as many documents as you can to prove your employment (pay stubs, tax returns, reference letter, offer letter, etc).

2 - Depends on what kind of details you're talking about, someone who failed to mention employment in his study permit and tried to claim points for it afterwards for PR got charged for misrepresentation and a 5 year ban.
If you don't mind, how you are so sure that the person who didn't mentioned his/her employment history and claiming point for it afterwards is misrepresenting? I saw many on this forum with same issue and they just mentioned it on LOE and got PR. One of those people also told that, if you are honest about your mistake and can come clean you are fine. Just saw your post and thought to share the facts which I saw.
 
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DelPiero07

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Oct 2, 2016
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If you don't mind, how you are so sure that the person who didn't mentioned his/her employment history and claiming point for it afterwards is misrepresenting? I saw many on this forum with same issue and they just mentioned it on LOE and got PR. One of those people also told that, if you are honest about your mistake and can come clean you are fine. Just saw your post and thought to share the facts which I saw.
I never stated that "I was so sure" he misrepresented, only the applicant can truly know if he/she misrepresented.

The applicant claimed his employment was legit, when he received a procedural fairness letter asking for bank statements, pay stubs and tax returns he failed to provide this information and thus was charged for misrepresentation.
 

astralsource

Champion Member
Jul 10, 2016
2,059
1,239
Croatia
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa, ON
NOC Code......
5122
App. Filed.......
22-04-2017
AOR Received.
22-04-2017
Med's Request
19-06-2017
Med's Done....
13-04-2017
please do you can explain more. please this is important to ma
Someone travelled a lot to USA in last 10 years and when you add all their travels it is more than 6 months spent in USA in last 10 years. He didnt know he needs a Police certificate from that country and it is counted this way. Here is what he says: "During the past 10 years i visited USA several times, the total durations of these visits exceeded 6 months. So i should have added PCC for the US although the six months were not continuous!!"

What is more important 2 rejections happened 68/76 days after AOR.
 

Mohammad Wally

Star Member
Oct 19, 2013
122
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I never stated that "I was so sure" he misrepresented, only the applicant can truly know if he/she misrepresented.

The applicant claimed his employment was legit, when he received a procedural fairness letter asking for bank statements, pay stubs and tax returns he failed to provide this information and thus was charged for misrepresentation.
I am sorry.
 
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otman

Star Member
Oct 16, 2011
146
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Someone travelled a lot to USA in last 10 years and when you add all their travels it is more than 6 months spent in USA in last 10 years. He didnt know he needs a Police certificate from that country and it is counted this way. Here is what he says: "During the past 10 years i visited USA several times, the total durations of these visits exceeded 6 months. So i should have added PCC for the US although the six months were not continuous!!"

What is more important 2 rejections happened 68/76 days after AOR.
thanks buddy
 

The Robust

Hero Member
Dec 15, 2014
595
31
Category........
Visa Office......
LVO
NOC Code......
1111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
CAP REACHED
Doc's Request.
Applied in Express Entry
I can't believe I have made a stupid mistake while uploading documents.

I have claimed points for 2 different jobs and have upload 2 reference letters in two different sections but wrong one did some one got rejected due to this I think they will reject my case :(
 

astralsource

Champion Member
Jul 10, 2016
2,059
1,239
Croatia
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa, ON
NOC Code......
5122
App. Filed.......
22-04-2017
AOR Received.
22-04-2017
Med's Request
19-06-2017
Med's Done....
13-04-2017
I can't believe I have made a stupid mistake while uploading documents.

I have claimed points for 2 different jobs and have upload 2 reference letters in two different sections but wrong one did some one got rejected due to this I think they will reject my case :(
Whats your AOR? Maybe you still have time to correct it through CSE webform and explain the mistake.
 

The Robust

Hero Member
Dec 15, 2014
595
31
Category........
Visa Office......
LVO
NOC Code......
1111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
CAP REACHED
Doc's Request.
Applied in Express Entry