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Veronica90

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May 30, 2017
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Hi
My husband and I got married 2 years ago, i became a permanent resident a year ago. Problem is we were just fine until this immigration thing got going on, from that moment my husband felt he has control over me or what I do or say. Like me converting to his religion suddenly does matter, me dressing nicely suddenly became too revealing, and more. I won't bore you with the details but lately we got to a point where i just couldn't take it anymore and I wanted to leave.

He told me I'm not full PR yet and that he decides whether i can leave him or not. I know there is a law that abuse or so is unacceptable here, but I don't wanna go through that door because: 1. I'm scared 2. I have no proof.

My question is what do I do? Will i be deported? In august i'm going to visit my family for 2 weeks, he told me when i come back they won't let me in.
We already separated about a week ago and he sent me a message that he is going to get me deported. The problem is that i left everything for him and now i have nothing to go back to while here i managed to be deep in the mud with school and work.

Thanks for any advice. Please don't judge or say mean stuff, this isn't easy at all, i can barely concentrate while i work or study because of the emotional pain, so please be considerate with the way you word things.
 

Rob_TO

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Hi
My husband and I got married 2 years ago, i became a permanent resident a year ago. Problem is we were just fine until this immigration thing got going on, from that moment my husband felt he has control over me or what I do or say. Like me converting to his religion suddenly does matter, me dressing nicely suddenly became too revealing, and more. I won't bore you with the details but lately we got to a point where i just couldn't take it anymore and I wanted to leave.

He told me I'm not full PR yet and that he decides whether i can leave him or not. I know there is a law that abuse or so is unacceptable here, but I don't wanna go through that door because: 1. I'm scared 2. I have no proof.

My question is what do I do? Will i be deported? In august i'm going to visit my family for 2 weeks, he told me when i come back they won't let me in.
We already separated about a week ago and he sent me a message that he is going to get me deported. The problem is that i left everything for him and now i have nothing to go back to while here i managed to be deep in the mud with school and work.

Thanks for any advice. Please don't judge or say mean stuff, this isn't easy at all, i can barely concentrate while i work or study because of the emotional pain, so please be considerate with the way you word things.
Don't believe a word he says. "Conditional" PR or condition 51 requiring sponsor and applicant to live together for 2 years after becoming PR, was recently completely abolished so no longer applies to anyone. Everyone is a "full" PR now.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/notices/2017-04-28.asp

So there is nothing he can do whatsoever to get you deported or have your PR status revoked. Absolutely nothing. He can complain or tell IRCC/CBSA anything he wants, they will not do anything to you. As long as you have a valid PR card on you there will be zero difficulty re-entering Canada.

Go on with your life as a PR, and as long as you maintain your PR residency obligation you will never lose your PR status and can later apply for citizenship whenever you qualify.

On a side note you should also consult with a good divorce lawyer to understand your rights.
 
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Veronica90

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May 30, 2017
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So he was right about the full PR thing, i never saw the landing paper he took it i just have my card ans SIN etc.. I did not know the full PR thing was revoked! So now i can finally go sleep in my bed safely knowing i'm protected from him completely? what if he claims i married him to become PR? what if he claims i never loved him? what if when i come back the officers ask me why did we split up? after all i have no proof of what i went through with him.
He never raised a hand on me though, he just loved me when i was being a good servant but when i wanted to go out with my friends, he would tell me he has the power and control over me. So there is no physical proof of any of my claims and he made me scared of everything :(
whenever i see a police car nowadays i think they are coming after me. It's like a nightmare :(

Tbh i was just gonna give up and leave Canada, and here you are saying the opposite of what he said with an official proof and for some reason i'm still skeptical, that's how scared i am.

In case he threatens me again i'd tell him what you told me here!
Thanks Rob_TO you made me smile!
 

Rob_TO

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16-11-2012
So now i can finally go sleep in my bed safely knowing i'm protected from him completely?
Yes, for immigration purposes definitely.

what if he claims i married him to become PR? what if he claims i never loved him? what if when i come back the officers ask me why did we split up? after all i have no proof of what i went through with him.
He can certainly lodge a claim with IRCC or CBSA, but realistically it will go nowhere. He has no proof or evidence that you entered into the relationship just for PR status. It was a real marriage, that simply broke down and ended in separation. This happens in many other situations and IRCC will not revoke PR status due to this.
 

Veronica90

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May 30, 2017
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Ok thank you guys! Now i feel safe, finally.
And it's not like be believed he can control me, he wanted to believe that. So what if I'm a small Asian? Does that give them the right to abuse us like that? A real man should have respected me because of my size not try to prove his manhood on a small girl, i thought that was the man i loved.

At least i'm glad to know he can't do the stuff he said, it feels like a relief.
Again thank you guys! I appreciate your help and support, it's good to know there are good people out there.
 
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carolbb23

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I am sorry I suggest you do is go to the police get your copr paper plus other paper and stuff and get a police escort or friend to come with you I could be wrong
 

ZhabaHulk

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May 11, 2017
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Ok thank you guys! Now i feel safe, finally.
And it's not like be believed he can control me, he wanted to believe that. So what if I'm a small Asian? Does that give them the right to abuse us like that? A real man should have respected me because of my size not try to prove his manhood on a small girl, i thought that was the man i loved.

At least i'm glad to know he can't do the stuff he said, it feels like a relief.
Again thank you guys! I appreciate your help and support, it's good to know there are good people out there.
Also on a bright note. As per Sponsorship obligations he has to financially support you another 2 years regardless of you both living together or not. :) Although, to go through with divorce I'd recommend you to consult with a lawyer. If your income below the threshold and you're still schooling you might gain spouse support from him as well.
 

Veronica90

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May 30, 2017
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Also on a bright note. As per Sponsorship obligations he has to financially support you another 2 years regardless of you both living together or not. :) Although, to go through with divorce I'd recommend you to consult with a lawyer. If your income below the threshold and you're still schooling you might gain spouse support from him as well.
Thank you for letting me know! To be honest he doesn't have anything to share and currently he isn't even working. Also I know he is financially responsible for me so if i go on welfare he'll have to pay it. But i don't like welfare for several reasons:
1. It's for people who are really in need, like new refugees.
2. knowing people who take welfare, i know that welfare could make you very lazy and give up your dreams in life when you see money coming in so easily.
3. Although he did all that to me i still don't want to ruin his life, after all he is a man i once loved.

Also I have big dreams and I'm working super hard to achieve them, the journey is no less important than the destination. When you achieve something with hard work, only then you feel truly happy.
As long as you guys say he can't kick me out I can continue working and studying without being worried.
 

ZhabaHulk

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Thank you for letting me know! To be honest he doesn't have anything to share and currently he isn't even working. Also I know he is financially responsible for me so if i go on welfare he'll have to pay it. But i don't like welfare for several reasons:
1. It's for people who are really in need, like new refugees.
2. knowing people who take welfare, i know that welfare could make you very lazy and give up your dreams in life when you see money coming in so easily.
3. Although he did all that to me i still don't want to ruin his life, after all he is a man i once loved.

Also I have big dreams and I'm working super hard to achieve them, the journey is no less important than the destination. When you achieve something with hard work, only then you feel truly happy.
As long as you guys say he can't kick me out I can continue working and studying without being worried.
Everything is up to you honey :)
 

carolbb23

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At least make him pay spousal support with welfare it last a year
 

Veronica90

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May 30, 2017
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How does spousal support work? Because we have been living in his parents house and he didn't really work, maybe 10 hours a month or so.
Also back when he saw that i'm not willing to be an object or a servant he wanted me to sign an agreement that should we split up in the future I waive my rights to spousal support or childcare (we don't have kids though), by singing this agreement i don't think i can ask for any of that.
 

carolbb23

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But veronica I suggest you do social assistance while your in school andistrict you can work too and it helps you cause in part time work you do not make enough
 

carolbb23

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Veronica I hope I do not sound rude thus guy sound insecure and jealous of you because your making something of yourself welfare is not being lazy it's helping you until your finished your education and assistance low income people go on it to help with food and rent
 

Veronica90

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May 30, 2017
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Thank you carol i will consider that. Maybe i'll go on welfare just for a year to make him make up for the spousal support, what i think about is that if he can't pay this money back then who will pay? the tax payers of course, I just don't wanna be another person who is living on the expense of hard working Canadians.
And no you don't sound rude you are actually right. In the last 2 years i managed to do high school courses all over again and then put myself in a university where so far my GPA is A+ while he would sit around do nothing and tell me software engineering isn't for women. By getting all A+ after my first semester i told him don't tell me what i can't do. That's when the real trouble between us started.