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methyl

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Mexico City
App. Filed.......
29-07-2016, Received 02-08-2016. Out of status app.
Doc's Request.
PGR 30-11-2016
Nomination.....
SA Approved 31-08-2016
AOR Received.
AOR1 23-08-2016. AOR2 30-11-2016
File Transfer...
31-08-2016
Med's Done....
28-06-2016
Passport Req..
17-05-2017
VISA ISSUED...
06-06-2017
LANDED..........
31-07-2017
Do I have to tell Canadian authorities about this? Or just move out and find place to rent? How does it work?
From immigration perspective you don't need to tell about a breakdown of a relationship, condition 51 has been abolished. If there's abuse (whether physical, verbal, withholding money or passport), then consider if you want to complain about this to Canadian police and social workers, in addition to getting assistance in UK.

You can just move out, don't need to tell anyone. If you need help organizing your life, google Community Services in the area where you want to live.
 
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Rob_TO

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Sent with App
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16-11-2012
If it's not possible go for assistance to the Commission of Canada in UK.
I think the Canadian embassy or consulates in other countries, are meant to help Canadian citizens. Not sure how much they can do for PRs except to help with visa related issues. I think it's expected they would go to their country of citizenship's embassy/consulate for assistance.

If he is holding passport hostage, that is probably some kind of crime so would report to local police.
 

methyl

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Visa Office......
Mexico City
App. Filed.......
29-07-2016, Received 02-08-2016. Out of status app.
Doc's Request.
PGR 30-11-2016
Nomination.....
SA Approved 31-08-2016
AOR Received.
AOR1 23-08-2016. AOR2 30-11-2016
File Transfer...
31-08-2016
Med's Done....
28-06-2016
Passport Req..
17-05-2017
VISA ISSUED...
06-06-2017
LANDED..........
31-07-2017
I think the Canadian embassy or consulates in other countries, are meant to help Canadian citizens. Not sure how much they can do for PRs except to help with visa related issues. I think it's expected they would go to their country of citizenship's embassy/consulate for assistance.

If he is holding passport hostage, that is probably some kind of crime so would report to local police.
Yes, you're right. Her own country would have to help if she cannot get her passport back, and Canadian Commission would only be able to help with a PRTD if needed.
 

methyl

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Mexico City
App. Filed.......
29-07-2016, Received 02-08-2016. Out of status app.
Doc's Request.
PGR 30-11-2016
Nomination.....
SA Approved 31-08-2016
AOR Received.
AOR1 23-08-2016. AOR2 30-11-2016
File Transfer...
31-08-2016
Med's Done....
28-06-2016
Passport Req..
17-05-2017
VISA ISSUED...
06-06-2017
LANDED..........
31-07-2017
What's the PRTD?
If you don't have your PR card you would need to request Permanent Resident Travel Document, PRTD, to travel to Canada.
 

ZhabaHulk

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All replies are right and you have to take a note of it, but I would try to talk to the husband first. Despite all his "strong" personality you have to stand up for yourself and know your rights as a human, and what is the most important, as his wife!
First, you have to declare that since the day you became his wife you have as much right to say in this marriage as he is and despite the fact that you don't work you have a right to make financial decisions. If he wants to make it hard way, he'll get it but in this case he will have to pay you a spousal support whether he wants it or not, because he signed sponsorship form and has to support you for 3 year after you have obtained your PR. The fact that he lives in UK in the moment doesn't wave his responsibilities as a Canadian citizen and sponsor of spouse.
You also must demand your passport back from him and make him acknowledge what might happen if he refuses to comply.
If he decide to put his hands on you out of rage - call the police; if he won't give your passport back - call the police.
Usually the police can direct you to proper social worker to help your cause or you can find it yourself online typing: social help/abuse/divorce and separation.

It also might happen that he will back up for a moment because you have pointed out the results of his actions, and problem with passport and the rest of bullsh*t he told you about eliminates on its own.

Anyway, despite the result, once you have got your passport back, buy a ticket to Canada on the nearest date, and rent some place to live through airbnb or other sources at once. Don't mind if the bank account would become overdraft - it's not your problem anymore.
Once you are in Canada (depends on province) do seek social and legal help to build your case and apply for divorce.

He wants you back in your homeland just to avoid complications after divorcing you. He simply doesn't want to pay you spousal support even though he must! He suspects that the law won't reach him from the place of your origin, that he can walk free without consequences. Won't let him do it to you!
 
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hanan2017

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All replies are right and you have to take a note of it, but I would try to talk to the husband first, despite all his "strong" personality. You have to stand up for yourself and know your rights as a human, and what is the most important, as his wife!
First, you have to declare that since the day you became his wife you have as much right to say in this marriage as he is and despite the fact that you don't work you have a right to make financial decisions. If he wants to make it hard way, he'll get it but in this case he will have to pay you a spousal support wether he wants it or not, because he signed sponsorship form and has to support you for 3 year after you have obtained PR. The fact that he lives in UK in the moment doesn't wave his responsibilities as a Canadian citizen and sponsor of spouse.
You also must demand your passport back from him and make him acknowledge what would happen if he refuses to comply.
If he decide to put his hands on you out of rage - call police; if he won't give your passport back - call police.
Usually police can direct you to proper social worker to help your cause or you can find it yourself online.

It also may happen that he will back up for a moment cause you have pointed out the results of his actions, and problem with passport and the rest of bullsh*t he told you about eliminates on itsown.

Anyway, despite the result once you have got your passport back buy a ticket to Canada on the nearest date, and rent some place to live through airbnb or other sources at once. Don't mind if bank account would become overdraft - not your problem anymore.
Once you are in Canada (depends on province) do seek social and legal help to build the case and apply for divorce.

He wants you back in your homeland just to avoide complications after divorcing you. He simply doesn't want to pay you sposal support even though he must! He suspects that the law won't reach him from the place of your origin, that he can walk free without consequences. Won't let him do it to you!
Thank u so much, I'm glad the law won't let me down, because I don't know much about it and whenever something small happens ( like me getting upset or not liking something he did or said ) he threatens me that he'll send me. Ack to my home country.. :( and takes my phone and laptop away from me.
 

methyl

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Feb 1, 2016
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Visa Office......
Mexico City
App. Filed.......
29-07-2016, Received 02-08-2016. Out of status app.
Doc's Request.
PGR 30-11-2016
Nomination.....
SA Approved 31-08-2016
AOR Received.
AOR1 23-08-2016. AOR2 30-11-2016
File Transfer...
31-08-2016
Med's Done....
28-06-2016
Passport Req..
17-05-2017
VISA ISSUED...
06-06-2017
LANDED..........
31-07-2017
Sound like you've been having trouble with this relationship for a while. Taking away your things and threatening to send you back sounds abusive.
I would get all the things and get out of there. And if there is a reason to be worried for physical safety, then get out of there for sure, don't even think about it.
 

carolbb23

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15/01/2016
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02/11/2015
Interview........
thank god no interview
Passport Req..
n/a
VISA ISSUED...
28/04/2017
LANDED..........
28/04/2017
Thank u so much, I'm glad the law won't let me down, because I don't know much about it and whenever something small happens ( like me getting upset or not liking something he did or said ) he threatens me that he'll send me. Ack to my home country.. :( and takes my phone and laptop away from me.
He can not no more condition 51 and what he's doing is verbal and emotional abuse I suggest you record him on your cell phone and you have a strong case
 

hanan2017

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He can not no more condition 51 and what he's doing is verbal and emotional abuse I suggest you record him on your cell phone and you have a strong case
What if he catches me recording him? He's not even talking to me now, since this morning. And I don't know what will happen next, he threatened me and closed door .
 

spousalsponsee

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Your husband cannot send you to another country against your will. Both the UK and Canada respect a partner's right to decide if they are going to travel, and if so, where they are going to go.

You should contact the British police immediately (999) if he is holding your passport. Hopefully, between them, the Canadian High Commission, and your original country, you should be able to arrange a way to get back to Canada. You can choose which country to go to if your relationship is over.

If he gets as far as trying to make you get on a plane, you should put something metal in your underwear (bra, or panties). This will set off the airport metal detectors, and give you a chance to be taken to a private room, where you can tell the security staff what is going on. They will make sure you don't get on a plane you don't want to.

In Canada, Condition 51 has been abolished, so you don't need to live with him there anymore.
 

ZhabaHulk

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Thank u so much, I'm glad the law won't let me down, because I don't know much about it and whenever something small happens ( like me getting upset or not liking something he did or said ) he threatens me that he'll send me. Ack to my home country.. :( and takes my phone and laptop away from me.
My hubby has also a harsh temper, so we can make an anonymous club of crazy husbands.
Although he'd never do such a thing as taking my phone from me or sending me out, once he did threaten me to shut the Internet down :D I think it always comes down to things he thinks he has control over just to make a point. But since I consider myself more legal savvy having business degree, our arguing or extreme discussions ends up peacefully.
Therefore I propose you to seek social and legal help to be more confident and stand up to ridiculousness of his statements. Have a look online laws regarding divorce procedures in the province of your PR registration; what are your rights as a wife; what steps you have to make to build your case against his violence and etc. Go to Ministry of Justice and click Get help, down below are sources you can call to for help by province.

Also, try to remember what good deeds have you been doing for your marriage for so long and what sacrifices you've made for him, speak from facts not feelings though.

If you're close with his relative, do try to reach them for help! You never know what outcome might be but it's worth trying, imho.
And remember that you have a right to leave at any moment and apply for divorce at any moment as Canadian Permanent resident, but he has to face the consequences regardless of his desires.
 

carolbb23

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Jun 24, 2016
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mississauga
App. Filed.......
15\12\2015
Doc's Request.
already did for applications
Nomination.....
n/a
AOR Received.
15/01/2016
IELTS Request
n/a
File Transfer...
10/03/2017
Med's Request
n/a
Med's Done....
02/11/2015
Interview........
thank god no interview
Passport Req..
n/a
VISA ISSUED...
28/04/2017
LANDED..........
28/04/2017
What if he catches me recording him? He's not even talking to me now, since this morning. And I don't know what will happen next, he threatened me and closed door .
There is way you can do it without him knowing there is apps that does that I suggest you talk to British authorities can I ask what's your background
 

ZhabaHulk

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What if he catches me recording him? He's not even talking to me now, since this morning. And I don't know what will happen next, he threatened me and closed door .
Honestly, ignore him. How old is he, 9 yo, shutting the door at you like an ass?

Set up a camera working on your laptop continuously and start packing your stuff, making noise of course, provoke him to leave his "tower of sorrow", once he's out, your camera will pick up whatever he has to say.
Demand your passport if he refuses tell him that you're going to call the police because he can't keep you there against your will. If he keeps stand on his own, call the police. They will arrive and request him to surrender your passport and all documents you need. They even will be there until you finish packing and ordering a ticket.
All of this will be recorded by the time you leave.
 
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