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Bill C-6: Senate stage

Marooned2

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Emailing


Emailing MP(don't waste time on Conservative one), Minister and PM is enough. They listen. that's why people you mentioned had gathered and protested. These email/phones/protests matter to them as that is their way of listening what matters to people....
Well its hard to organize a protest for the purpose of making a Bill go faster. It's not that big of a deal.
 

capermanet

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I think the Minster is enough at this stage. Some people including Mobina and others have tweeted Ahmed Hussen to speed up C6. So I am sure the more emails and tweets he gets, the faster he reacts.
I think twitter is best way to remind them we are waiting but if for some people is easy to email or call MP, either way is helpful.
 

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This is the third time I'm explaining it in this thread, but I'll do it again :)

The projected order of business is only accurate for the very next sitting day (currently that's Friday = tomorrow).

To explain: The HOC generally deals with two things:
- Government orders, which use like 80% of the time available
- Private Member bills and motions (non-government-supported stuff), which use like 20% of the time available.

The POB consists of two parts:
- The projection for the very next sitting day which includes both the government orders AND the private member bills.
- The projection for subsequent days which only includes the private member bills.

This means if you look at the POB for the week after next week, you can only see what the house spends 20% of their time on.

You have to wait until the very day right before the sitting. Only then does the government announce what they want to use the 80% for.

So, again: The POB for "subsequent days" only includes the list of what the HOC will use 20% of its time for. You cannot use it as an idicator on what the government will use their time on, which is 80% of the allocated time in the house. They will only announce this the very day before the sitting.

DO NOT use the POB as an indication for anything beyond the very next day because C-6 is a government bill and therefore falls within the 80% part.

If you wonder how you can tell private member and government business apart: Bills that have numbers C-200 and higher are private member bills. Bills that have lower numbers (starting at C-1 and counting up) are government bills. For motions (numbered M-****), the numbering system is a bit different. But generally, high numbers means non-government stuff.

Notice how everything for the week after next week only has high-numbered stuff? That's because all the government stuff is still missing.

Remark: Maybe it's not 80%/20% but more like 70%/30%, I didn't check the actual stats, but you get the picture.
 
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This is the third time I'm explaining it in this thread, but I'll do it again :)

The projected order of business is only accurate for the very next sitting day (currently that's Friday = tomorrow).

To explain: The HOC generally deals with two things:
- Government orders, which use like 80% of the time available
- Private Member bills and motions (non-government-supported stuff), which use like 20% of the time available.

The POB consists of two parts:
- The projection for the very next sitting day which includes both the government orders AND the private member bills.
- The projection for subsequent days which only includes the private member bills.

This means if you look at the POB for the week after next week, you can only see what the house spends 20% of their time on.

You have to wait until the very day right before the sitting. Only then does the government announce what they want to use the 80% for.

So, again: The POB for "subsequent days" only includes the list of what the HOC will use 20% of its time for. You cannot use it as an idicator on what the government will use their time on, which is 80% of the allocated time in the house. They will only announce this the very day before the sitting.

DO NOT use the POB as an indication for anything beyond the very next day because C-6 is a government bill and therefore falls within the 80% part.

If you wonder how you can tell private member and government business apart: Bills that have numbers C-200 and higher are private member bills. Bills that have lower numbers (starting at C-1 and counting up) are government bills. For motions (numbered M-****), the numbering system is a bit different. But generally, high numbers means non-government stuff.

Notice how everything for the week after next week only has high-numbered stuff? That's because all the government stuff is still missing.

Remark: Maybe it's not 80%/20% but more like 70%/30%, I didn't check the actual stats, but you get the picture.
Just checked the order paper and no motions regarding C-6 are proposed....
 

Redfield

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All the motions appeared at the end of the day the Friday before a new sitting week. We're gonna have to wait to see if C-6 appears tomorrow
 

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The government only has 3 amendments in the Bill to be discussed. I think 2-3 weeks is more than enough. I hope Ahmed Hussen will not make another trip somewhere because he is closely engaged.
 

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All the motions appeared at the end of the day the Friday before a new sitting week. We're gonna have to wait to see if C-6 appears tomorrow
no. Nothing for tomorrow :(
http://www.ourcommons.ca/en/parliamentary-business/2017-05-19

Agenda for Friday, May 19, 2017
Subject to change without notice.
10:00 a.m.
Government Orders
Each sitting day, a substantial portion of the House’s time is devoted to the consideration of Government Orders, which include any item of business proposed by a Minister for consideration on a certain day.

Government Bills (Commons)
Bills concerned with public policy introduced by a Minister in the House.

C-46 (second reading)
An Act to amend the Criminal Code (offences relating to conveyances) and to make consequential amendments to other Acts
 

lilen

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we have to wait more week to get some news and hopefully we will get a good news about c6 loool finger crossed
 

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Just checked the order paper and no motions regarding C-6 are proposed....
Not for tomorrow, but again: no matter what, government orders NEVER EVER show up more than one day ahead. So c-6 might very well show up on Monday or Tuesday after the break.
 

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The government only has 3 amendments in the Bill to be discussed. I think 2-3 weeks is more than enough. I hope Ahmed Hussen will not make another trip somewhere because he is closely engaged.
The federal court just ruled in this regard one week ago which is immensely important for this bill. How on earth does anyone expect the government to come up with a reaction so fast?! Do you really think laws are written overnight? Of course they need more that just 3-4 working days. These people have families you know?! They don't work 24/7.
 

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Good news! C-6 will be back after the break. It's mentioned during yesterday's debate:

Hon. Bardish Chagger (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons and Minister of Small Business and Tourism, Lib.):
Mr. Speaker, this afternoon, we will continue the debate we began this morning on the Conservative opposition day motion. Tomorrow, we will begin debate on Bill C-46 on impaired driving. Next week, members will work in their ridings.

When we come back, we will proceed with Bill C-6 on citizenship.
 

Mike053

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Good news! C-6 will be back after the break. It's mentioned during yesterday's debate:

Hon. Bardish Chagger (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons and Minister of Small Business and Tourism, Lib.):
Mr. Speaker, this afternoon, we will continue the debate we began this morning on the Conservative opposition day motion. Tomorrow, we will begin debate on Bill C-46 on impaired driving. Next week, members will work in their ridings.

When we come back, we will proceed with Bill C-6 on citizenship.
Good find. Thanks.

Let's hope they don't amend, and pass it. Hope.