January 2025 - Citizenship Applications

[armoured]

You call it whining. I call it paying attention. As Winston Churchill said, “To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often.” If the current government can’t handle critique, maybe they’re not interested in improving—

Posters here are not the government. Do complain to the government if you wish (I for one frequently suggest people should communicate to their MPs) - absolutely. (Maybe 'whining' wasn't the best choice of words, though)

Sometimes, also, other posters here are trying, usually politely, to remind that if you applied in January, it's not realistic to expect it to be done by April, not all applications can be processed faster than average, etc. And sometimes that checking one's account over-frequently may not be useful and could be harming one's mental health. (People don't like hearing that but it's true for some) There will not be meaningful updates every day, nor even every week.

[And I say this with a wee bit of self-awareness - I'm on my fourth family member's app, and I check it more frequently than I ought; but I'm not obsessed (I think)]

And me saying this doesn't - of course - absolve IRCC and govt of some terribly non-transparent aspects that can have terrible delays, esp delays related to security clearing. I do understand that there will never be 'transparency' per se on security, but it leaves far too often the impression that files just get forgotten there for ages, and ends up being just an excuse for files having taken inordinately long.

The other side of that though is that we can't think every file that takes eight months is due to unjust delays. That's the estimated time (more or less), and most get done in less than that.

 

[armoured]

Thanks for sharing that. I stand corrected—it’s honestly mind-blowing to see how long those citizenship application timelines were.

We (collectively) often don't update our priors, and you hear things that turn out not to be true - and yet we also take all previous improvements for granted.

Passport issuance was a serious problem for a bit there - in 2021/2022. I still hear warnings about how lengthy and difficult it is - and it's pretty much not true anymore. I found it was mostly fixed by mid-2022 (personal experience), except you had to line up, early.

Now it's seriously improved. You may still have to queue if you don't have an appointment, but I did renewal (new!) online - seven days exactly, delivered. They're giving 30-day service guarantees for most apps.

And yet, I still get people telling me the passport office has problems. No, for all intents and purposes, it's been fixed.

 

[maple_leaf25]

@armoured I really appreciate the mature discussion here. In contrast, @wonderbly seemed to resort to personal attacks, and I got the sense they were almost encouraging complacency -- the idea that we should just "appreciate what we have" and stop pushing for more. Historically, one of the things that made great nations the envy of the world was exactly the opposite: a constant drive to improve and strive for better.

Personally, as an immigrant and future citizen, I see it as my responsibility to strive for more, to do more, and to help make the country even better.

I agree with your point, and to keep a healthier perspective, I've even set a reminder to only check this once every 15 days. (Now I just need to remember to turn off those notifications! haha)

 

[Hope5]

any one got LPP updated today?

 

[Hope5]

IRCC invalidated my test results today ?
Can any one guide me what will be the next steps

 

[Ridingclub]

Hi,

I got my PR while I was inland as a student. For the physical presence, I know I am eligible for 365 days for my student periods. To calculate the balance 730 days, which date should I take as start date? The date when I receive my final decision? or the date of eCOPR? or the date when my PR card was issued?

Thanks

 

[Hope5]

Can any one give me ircc number to contact

 

[armoured]

Hi,

I got my PR while I was inland as a student. For the physical presence, I know I am eligible for 365 days for my student periods. To calculate the balance 730 days, which date should I take as start date? The date when I receive my final decision? or the date of eCOPR? or the date when my PR card was issued?

Thanks

The date you became a PR - this should be the date of your COPR, but most reliable is to look at the "PR since" field on the back of the card. IMO.

 

[hazelb712]

It seems the bottleneck is application processing in Vancouver and from what I've seen on here, most applications from residents of the GTA seem to go to Vancouver.

yeah mine is sent to Vancouver, no update after March 6

 

[wonderbly]

@armoured I really appreciate the mature discussion here. In contrast, @wonderbly seemed to resort to personal attacks, and I got the sense they were almost encouraging complacency -- the idea that we should just "appreciate what we have" and stop pushing for more. Historically, one of the things that made great nations the envy of the world was exactly the opposite: a constant drive to improve and strive for better.

Personally, as an immigrant and future citizen, I see it as my responsibility to strive for more, to do more, and to help make the country even better.

I agree with your point, and to keep a healthier perspective, I've even set a reminder to only check this once every 15 days. (Now I just need to remember to turn off those notifications! haha)

I'm only going to address this once - mainly because you tagged me - cos I already moved on since stating my opinion. I didn't personally attack you, as I didn't call you any names or insult you. I used the term "whining" because you have expressed the same sentiments about liberal govts in multiple posts over the course of a few days. You posted similar sentiments in the February applications thread as well. You were making antagonistic statements against the liberal govt in a forum with no known government representatives that can address it in any meaningful way.

I am a very vocal critic of the the current govt when deserved and in meaningful spaces so I definitely will not encourage complacency towards any leadership, but IMO, the issue of perceived delays in citizenship application does not meet the criteria given that your application (and all of us in the January group)is still very well within the specified timeline. Moreso, IRCC gives you avenues for querying and demanding that your application be treated with urgency when they fail to meet their stated timeline.

 

[armoured]

I'm only going to address this once - mainly because you tagged me - cos I already moved on since stating my opinion. I didn't personally attack you, as I didn't call you any names or insult you. I used the term "whining" because you have expressed the same sentiments about liberal govts in multiple posts over the course of a few days. You posted similar sentiments in the February applications thread as well. You were making antagonistic statements against the liberal govt in a forum with no known government representatives that can address it in any meaningful way.

I am a very vocal critic of the the current govt when deserved and in meaningful spaces so I definitely will not encourage complacency towards any leadership, but IMO, the issue of perceived delays in citizenship application does not meet the criteria given that your application (and all of us in the January group)is still very well within the specified timeline. Moreso, IRCC gives you avenues for querying and demanding that your application be treated with urgency when they fail to meet their stated timeline.

WIthout asking for any major climbdown, nor making this a big criticism, it's friday night (and one of my stepsons became a citizen today so I'm happy and going to hoist a few): so let's use easter redemption and all that to move on.

"Whining" when applied to others gets their backs up. Maybe it's deserved sometimes, maybe not - but it's perceived as a harsh term.

I have a sharp tongue and limited patience sometimes (the phrase "does not suffer fools gladly" is a recurring theme in my life - and I don't mean this as a compliment to me or a comment on anything except my own limited patience and tendency to express things harshly. Even, at times, overly harshly.).

I think that's all this was here - a bit of fresh pepper tossed out that ended up someone's nose.

You both have good points to make.

Let's focus on the real enemy: the Washington Capitals. Go Habs Go! (or allez habs allez if that's the way you swing).

 

[wonderbly]

WIthout asking for any major climbdown, nor making this a big criticism, it's friday night (and one of my stepsons became a citizen today so I'm happy and going to hoist a few): so let's use easter redemption and all that to move on.

"Whining" when applied to others gets their backs up. Maybe it's deserved sometimes, maybe not - but it's perceived as a harsh term.

I have a sharp tongue and limited patience sometimes (the phrase "does not suffer fools gladly" is a recurring theme in my life - and I don't mean this as a compliment to me or a comment on anything except my own limited patience and tendency to express things harshly. Even, at times, overly harshly.).

I think that's all this was here - a bit of fresh pepper tossed out that ended up someone's nose.

You both have good points to make.

Let's focus on the real enemy: the Washington Capitals. Go Habs Go! (or allez habs allez if that's the way you swing).

Congratulations to your stepson . It will be your turn soon.

 

[wonderbly]

WIthout asking for any major climbdown, nor making this a big criticism, it's friday night (and one of my stepsons became a citizen today so I'm happy and going to hoist a few): so let's use easter redemption and all that to move on.

"Whining" when applied to others gets their backs up. Maybe it's deserved sometimes, maybe not - but it's perceived as a harsh term.

I have a sharp tongue and limited patience sometimes (the phrase "does not suffer fools gladly" is a recurring theme in my life - and I don't mean this as a compliment to me or a comment on anything except my own limited patience and tendency to express things harshly. Even, at times, overly harshly.).

I think that's all this was here - a bit of fresh pepper tossed out that ended up someone's nose.

You both have good points to make.

Let's focus on the real enemy: the Washington Capitals. Go Habs Go! (or allez habs allez if that's the way you swing).

Not looking too good for Habz unfortunately .

 

[nns14]

Based on the few who have had update on their LPP, it roughly takes two months from the Background completion date to clear LPP.

Hmmmm.

 

[Ridingclub]

The date you became a PR - this should be the date of your COPR, but most reliable is to look at the "PR since" field on the back of the card. IMO.

Thank you very much