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Miss bee

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Hi @Miss bee , hope you are doing well.
At what stage can my dependent (Spouse) travel to Canada? I'm currently waiting for "Final Decision" as the eligibility and background check is passed.
If you are the principal applicant and your spouse is included as a dependent in your permanent residency (PR) application, your spouse can typically only travel to Canada after the PR application is approved and you both receive the Confirmation of Permanent Residence (COPR) or a visa, depending on your country of origin.
However, if your spouse holds a valid temporary visa, such as a visitor visa, study permit, or work permit, they may be able to travel to Canada while your PR application is still in process. Keep in mind:
1. Dual Intent: Your spouse must demonstrate that they intend to leave Canada if their temporary status expires, even though they have a pending PR application.
2. No Impact on PR Application: Entering Canada on a temporary visa will not affect the processing of your PR application.
3. Border Officer’s Discretion: The final decision on entry rests with the CBSA officer at the port of entry.
If your spouse does not have a valid temporary visa, they must wait until your PR application is approved.
 

Miss bee

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Hi @Miss bee - I received my GCMS notes today, and the summary from 24th October indicates the following:

Outstanding:
Eligibility: review required
Criminality x PA and spouse
Security x PA and spouse Ready for CO review
**********
CPO to review Schedule A (section 6)
CPO to review Info sharing

Ready for CPO review

It is currently marked as ready for CPO review, and I haven’t had any updates since then. My PVO is Etobicoke. I previously had a Study Permit refusal and also obtained my PGWP through flagpoling. In the Statutory Questions (IMM5669), I answered "Yes" for the question on previous refusals but "No" for previous denial of entry (as I misunderstood the wording). However, I did provide an explanation for both in the description section. Could this be a concern, and if so, what should I expect next?
The notes from your GCMS suggest that your file is currently awaiting a Centralized Processing Officer (CPO) review, which is common when additional scrutiny is needed for certain elements of your application. Here’s a breakdown:

1. Eligibility Review Required: This indicates that an officer flagged some aspect of your eligibility for further review. This could be due to the previous study permit refusal or other factors related to your work experience, education, or other supporting documents.
2. Criminality and Security Checks Ready for Review: These checks have likely been completed and are awaiting the CPO’s final assessment.
3. Schedule A (IMM5669) Issue: The fact that you answered “No” to the denial of entry question, despite flagpoling, may have triggered the review. However, since you provided an explanation in the description section, this could work in your favor. Officers understand that applicants can sometimes misinterpret the questions, and your transparency in the additional information section helps clarify your intent.
4. Etobicoke Visa Office (PVO): This office often handles more complex cases or those requiring additional scrutiny, which could explain the longer processing time.

What to expect next:
• The CPO will review your eligibility and the Schedule A form.
• If they require additional documents or clarification, they may issue a procedural fairness letter (PFL). However, this is not guaranteed and depends on the severity of the concern.
• If everything is satisfactory, your eligibility will be marked as “Passed,” and the application will proceed to the final decision stage.

Recommendations:
• Order updated GCMS notes in about 1-2 months to track progress.
• Consider a webform submission to explain the misunderstanding and provide supporting documents or clarifications.
• If you haven’t already, consult with an immigration consultant or lawyer, especially if you feel the previous refusal could impact the outcome.
 
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Miss bee

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Hello everyone and @Miss bee ,

I applied for my non-Express Entry OINP (Ontario Immigrant Nominee Program) application on May 19, 2024. I received my AOR (Acknowledgement of Receipt) in September. The last update I got was on November 7, 2024, when I passed my medical exam. I also gave my biometrics on November 14, 2024.

However, there was some incomplete information in my IMM5604 form, and IRCC requested me to resubmit it, which I did on November 17, 2024.

It has now been around 5 months, and I am still waiting for my pre-arrival letter and I applied within canada, I guess I will get P1 after my PAL so waiting for that. I’ve noticed that people who applied in July 2024 have already received their Final Decisions. Should I be concerned about the delay?
Your situation is not uncommon, especially for non-Express Entry streams like the OINP. Here’s a breakdown of what could be happening and what steps you can take:
1. Incomplete IMM5604 Form Submission: Since IRCC requested an updated IMM5604 form and you submitted it in November, this could have caused some processing delay. When additional documentation is requested, the application often goes back into the queue for reassessment.

2. Background and Security Checks: Your GCMS notes indicate that eligibility is under review and security is complete. The review process can sometimes take longer for certain applicants, especially if there are prior refusals or flagpoling incidents, as in your case.

3. Pre-Arrival Letter (PAL) and P1 Status: Since you’re applying from within Canada, you’re correct that you will receive the PAL first, followed by P1. The PAL is often issued once eligibility is passed, but if there’s a review required, that could be causing the delay.

4. Processing Times Variability: While other applicants who applied later may have received decisions, timelines can vary due to factors like the complexity of the case, the workload at the processing office (Etobicoke, in your case), and security screening.
 

Cobra-11

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May 16, 2024
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If you are the principal applicant and your spouse is included as a dependent in your permanent residency (PR) application, your spouse can typically only travel to Canada after the PR application is approved and you both receive the Confirmation of Permanent Residence (COPR) or a visa, depending on your country of origin.
However, if your spouse holds a valid temporary visa, such as a visitor visa, study permit, or work permit, they may be able to travel to Canada while your PR application is still in process. Keep in mind:
1. Dual Intent: Your spouse must demonstrate that they intend to leave Canada if their temporary status expires, even though they have a pending PR application.
2. No Impact on PR Application: Entering Canada on a temporary visa will not affect the processing of your PR application.
3. Border Officer’s Discretion: The final decision on entry rests with the CBSA officer at the port of entry.
If your spouse does not have a valid temporary visa, they must wait until your PR application is approved.
Appreciate the response, so after receiving COPR is the answer as she doesn't have any visa to enter Canada right now.
 

heyymigs

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Aug 6, 2024
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Hi @Miss bee

We received our Confirmation of Permanent Residence (COPR) P1last March 11. We applied for one principal applicant and three dependents, but we only received COPR P1 for the principal applicant and two dependents. Should we submit a web form to address this issue, or should we wait for further updates?

Thank you!
 
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zd141899

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Apr 23, 2024
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Hi @Miss bee
Since I have an OINP PNP nomination under the International Student Stream with an employer job offer, and my PR is in process (non-Express Entry), my work permit expires in December. Should I apply for a closed work permit ( how to do that ) or a Bridging Open Work Permit (BOWP)?


Also MP said that - MY PR application is being processed in the Windsor office. The medical and criminality assessments have been completed and the eligibility assessments are in progress. The security assessments have not yet started. Does this mean background check is done?
 
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Miss bee

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Hi @Miss bee

We received our Confirmation of Permanent Residence (COPR) P1last March 11. We applied for one principal applicant and three dependents, but we only received COPR P1 for the principal applicant and two dependents. Should we submit a web form to address this issue, or should we wait for further updates?

Thank you!
In your situation, it’s best to submit a web form to notify IRCC about the missing COPR for one of the dependents. This will help ensure the issue is addressed promptly. When submitting the web form, provide details such as:

1. Your UCI and application number.
2. The names and UCIs of all applicants, including the missing dependent.
3. A brief explanation of the situation.
4. Any supporting documents (e.g., confirmation of the missing dependent’s inclusion in the application).
This proactive approach can help avoid unnecessary delays.
 

Miss bee

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Hi @Miss bee
Since I have an OINP PNP nomination under the International Student Stream with an employer job offer, and my PR is in process (non-Express Entry), my work permit expires in December. Should I apply for a closed work permit ( how to do that ) or a Bridging Open Work Permit (BOWP)?


Also MP said that - MY PR application is being processed in the Windsor office. The medical and criminality assessments have been completed and the eligibility assessments are in progress. The security assessments have not yet started. Does this mean background check is done?
If you don't have any employer restrictions on your nomination certificate, you can apply for BOWP . If there is restrictions only option is to apply for closed work permit.
 

zd141899

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Apr 23, 2024
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If you don't have any employer restrictions on your nomination certificate, you can apply for BOWP . If there is restrictions only option is to apply for closed work permit.

Okay I do have emp restriction mentioned. But my concern is that the wp support letter that i got along with PNP that has already expired since my PNP approval was from last year. I am already under pr processing ( currently bg check ongoing ). Can I still apply for closed work permit?
 

Miss bee

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Okay I do have emp restriction mentioned. But my concern is that the wp support letter that i got along with PNP that has already expired since my PNP approval was from last year. I am already under pr processing ( currently bg check ongoing ). Can I still apply for closed work permit?
You need a valid WPSL . You should request new one from PNP office. You can use expired nomination certificate. Your employer need to submit valid job offer in employer portal and pay $230 compliance fees .
 

Stay_positive

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Jan 5, 2025
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Hello @Miss bee
The company I currently work for which is the parent company is dissolving & they are moving all employees to one of their subsidiary companies. Will I need an updated nomination certificate and will I need to refill some of my IMM forms submitted to the government. My role or duties doesn't change. I also haven’t gotten AOR yet
Note: My PNP nomination certificate is employee tied. What can I do?
 
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tee2406

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Jun 6, 2024
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Okay I do have emp restriction mentioned. But my concern is that the wp support letter that i got along with PNP that has already expired since my PNP approval was from last year. I am already under pr processing ( currently bg check ongoing ). Can I still apply for closed work permit?
reach out to the province and get a new letter.