To add to my above post, this is basically an H&C stream, as I understand it, and self-sufficiency is something IRCC looks at in all H&C applications. I think it's no different here. They are looking to understand how the person applying will support themselves financially, either independently through working or by being supported financially by their family member in Canada.
PR under Ukraine Family Reunification Public Policy
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Agree that there is always a financial aspect to H&C applications. If anything Canada has been very generous to Ukrainians and their families up to this point compared to what is being required from other regions like Sudan. Ukrainian families did not have to agree to support their families upfront, did not have to show significant proof of funds, got processing relatively quickly & for free, got access to healthcare even though on a WP technically had to show proof of a job to normally qualify, were given start-up funds, etc. I don’t people appreciate how unusual CUAET was and how all these large humanitarian programs are going to haunt Canada because there is now a precedent that will be demanded for any conflict.
CUAET was great. I am still amazed at how few Ukrainians who received the visa ended up coming here. Only about a third came and many have gone back to Ukraine. Those who have stayed want to continue staying here. I think that our group includes those who want to stay and get PR. We have friends from Ukraine who were granted CUAET visas but chose to wait out the war in Romania. I was quite disappointed that they didn't come. It just shows you how committed to this country you have to be to immigrate here. I believe that we have people from Ukraine who are committed to Canada. The process has already weeded out those without serious intentions.
There are many people who want to remain in Canada for a variety of reasons so one group is unlikely to get priority and how they will fund their life is always an issue for non-asylum claimants/refugees. The fact that Canada funded CUAET for so many applicants who never came to Canada should also be assessed and learned from. Millions of dollars and huge amount of processing capacity wasted.
Did they give you any details about what they would accept as "evidence that you made arrangements for your care and support"? Do you have a copy of the letter that they sent you (with redactions to protect privacy)?
Application processing timelines for PR pathway programs are getting slower primarily due to quotas being reduced and backlogs in things like background checks not IRCC employees. Major exceptions are asylum and general H&C which both are slated to be reformed if rumours are correct out of pure necessity.
My mother in law had submitted an H&C application before the family reunification program was commenced. I am pleased to say that her H&C application was approved today, which came as a total surprise. The H&C application was declined at first instance and then sent for judicial review. You never know what can happen with Canadian immigration. It appears that a lot of what happens is quite arbitrary. I supose that the H&C application just dies on the vine. There were a lot of wasted fees spent in this process, but at least there is progress.
Interestingly, the public policy clearly states that
Part 3 - Conditions (eligibility requirements) applicable to the principal applicant in Canada
Based on public policy considerations, delegated officers may grant permanent residence to a foreign national who meets the following conditions:
The foreign national
...
g. is not inadmissible pursuant to the Act and Regulations, other than for being inadmissible for financial reasons;
Which means that application can't be refused due to the lack of funds.
I reason that there are two possibilities here:
1) The letter itself comes from generic template and may not reflect actual requirements
2) IRCC is demanding more information, but due to the public policy whatever response you provide can't be used to deny PR, because public policy explicitly states, that financial condition of the applicant can't be grounds for refusal.
The act you are quoting doesn’t mean you still can’t be denied PR based on proof that you won’t be able to support yourself.
To the contrary, thank God for President Trump! And once the war is over, it will be safe for all of you to return home.
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