Give me and anyone with a half a brain , a break
Bad news on HCCP and HSW pilots
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Helping your children to raise their kids is an illegal work?! Where is your refrence?
Every year Canada issue visitor visas for family members to come and help new moms especially mothers and mother-in-laws.
I'll be glad to see your official documents about these kind of helping is illegal
Anyone who come to Canada under any immigration program probably not suets to other ones like those who come under agricultural or statup Ways, so what?
https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/tax/businesses/topics/payroll/payroll-deductions-contributions/special-situations/employing-a-caregiver-baby-sitter-domestic-worker.html
It’s called being a caregiver . People get PAID to do that in this country
And the Government could care less if the person was Mother Teresa doing the work .
It’s a person not authorized to do the work
"hire a person
establish regular working hours (for example, 9 a.m. to 5 p.m.)
assign and supervise the tasks performed"
When you're mother come to help you, Do you "hire" her? Do establish regular working hour for her? Or do you assign and supervise the tasks that she do?
If for IRCC this was a work they didn't issue TRV for them while their children exacly write in their invitation letters that they need their physical and mental help during the maternity, labour and especially the first months of newborn baby. Working had a special meaning like what is written above and helping (or volunteering) has its own definition.
If you do not know anyone who help his/her family members here or anywhere else, it doesn't mean that others don't.
And this is the answer of AI, however I couldn't find a exact term in IRCC but if I find, I'll share it:
No, a visitor to Canada who comes to help their daughter during pregnancy and in the first months of raising a newborn child generally does not need a work permit.
Here's why:
* Visitor Visa: The mother would typically enter Canada as a visitor under a Temporary Resident Visa (TRV).
* Purpose of Visit: The primary purpose of her visit is to provide family support, which is generally considered a permissible activity for a visitor.
* No Paid Employment: Providing childcare and support to family members is usually considered a personal service and not paid employment.
Important Considerations:
* Maintaining Visitor Status: It's crucial that the mother maintains visitor status and does not engage in any paid work or activities that would violate the terms of her visa.
* Length of Stay: The length of the mother's stay in Canada would be determined by the validity of her visitor visa.
* Circumstances may vary: In some specific situations, providing extensive childcare could be considered "work" and may require a work permit. (Exactly what I'm doing now)
No, a visitor to Canada who comes to help their daughter during pregnancy and in the first months of raising a newborn child generally does not need a work permit.
Here's why:
* Visitor Visa: The mother would typically enter Canada as a visitor under a Temporary Resident Visa (TRV).
* Purpose of Visit: The primary purpose of her visit is to provide family support, which is generally considered a permissible activity for a visitor.
* No Paid Employment: Providing childcare and support to family members is usually considered a personal service and not paid employment.
Important Considerations:
* Maintaining Visitor Status: It's crucial that the mother maintains visitor status and does not engage in any paid work or activities that would violate the terms of her visa.
* Length of Stay: The length of the mother's stay in Canada would be determined by the validity of her visitor visa.
* Circumstances may vary: In some specific situations, providing extensive childcare could be considered "work" and may require a work permit. (Exactly what I'm doing now)
That’s AI not IRCC. See link. It is work.
https://ircc.canada.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1288&top=17
I know that so
Explain how officers issue TRV for those who exacly explain their intention of visiting Canada to help their daughters during pregnancy and afther child birth?
Do not yhe officers know it's a work?! Or why they don't issue work permit?
I personally knew more than 15 person who gained TRV and they exacly had the same explanation of their intention.
Maybe they failed to show strong tie for returning to their country or had low funds and so many other reasons. But as long as there was only one case (which I knew so many) the question is that how the office issued a TRV not work permit for situations like this while helping in this matter consider as a illegal wort?!
All in all, there is no point in discussing this here anymore and I'm going to consult a lawyer. Since during my 35 years family backround in Canada, living, working and visiting we never violated the law and also we never faced any problem about these issues either my closed family or distant family.
It is easier to employ your family to take care of your children than entrusting them in the hands of a total stranger. Employing a family member is not illegal. They stopped the program because they needed to cut the number of pple coming into the country not because they felt it was abused. They do their checks properly before giving the family wrk permit
"They do their checks properly before giving the family wrk permit"
well that's absolutely false!
"Government officers told to skip fraud prevention steps when vetting temporary foreign worker applications, Star investigation finds"
well that's absolutely false!
"Government officers told to skip fraud prevention steps when vetting temporary foreign worker applications, Star investigation finds"
Absolutely, at least in my case, in the forms I had to clear the relationship with my employer (if there's any). And obviously I wrote he is my brother-in-law, so the office knew that we are family member. Since he approved my application so this was not illegal. Also as far as I remember there was about being family member in the eligibility explanation for HCCP in the IRCC website