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About my USA vısa After asylum in Canada.

barismanco

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Sep 15, 2024
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Well, if my visa in my old passport is still valid, can I travel with my US visa in my old passport using a travel document? My visa is not printed on the passport that immigration confiscated. Before I sought asylum in Canada, I traveled with my US visa in my old passport using my new passport. If I get a travel document, can I travel if my US visa in my old passport is still valid? Because if I want to apply for a US visa using a travel document, I can make an appointment for 1.5 years later. That's why I asked this question.
Yes you can. You can't travel back to your home country, otherwise you can use your old passport along with refugee travel document as long as the visa is valid.
After your refugee application is approved, you can request to have your old passport back. U.S visas are not automatically canceled the moment you apply for asylum in Canada. Most information here is not valid.
If U.S. cancels your visa they will contact you, but you can always call the U.S. embassy and ask for validity of your visa if you got the document number of your visa and you should do that before trying to travel to U.S.

The law above is interpreted in a wrong manner. If you RENEW the passport of the country that you sought asylum from, or reapply for a new one yes your refugee status can get canceled. But requesting your passport back because you have valid visas for other countries , and using those visas to travel to said countries, while using RTD is perfectly okay. You shouldn't renew your passport even if it expires.

U.S. lets you use the visas in your old passports thats past its validity, and U.S. issues visas past passport validity due to this (They will issue 10 year visa, even if your passport expires in 7 years for example, so you can use your old passport and a RTD past its validity, despite passport expiring the visa on it is still valid).

Requesting your passport back from IRCC is not the same as renewing or obtaining your countrys passport. So if you get your passport back, and get a RTD and use the visa on it to travel to U.S., it is no problem. If you renew your passport, or get another passport from your home country it will lead to cancellation of your refugee status in Canada (not always enforced but that is the law). You should still not use your old passport as a main traveling document, always accompany it with a RTD.

As for comment above, Five Eyes countries share exit / entry information. Other countries do not share information with Canada or the U.S. (perhaps there are exceptions but EU doesn't, but has a shared information system within. Same for GCC countries and ex-Soviet ones). So the U.S. already knows you applied for asylum in Canada, if you get questioned in U.S. just explain the situation about you having a visa previously and sought asylum in Canada, they will check validity of your visa and decide whether to let you in or not.

The U.S. as far as i know only cancels their Visas, if you break the terms of visa. For example, using U.S. visa to enter the U.S, then traveling to Canada illegally to claim asylum there breaks its conditions. In that case you should not get asylum in Canada due to safe third country agreement anyway but current administration of Canada grants asylum anyway, this however breaks the terms of U.S visa and your U.S. visa gets canceled. However if you hold Canadian visa and U.S. visa seperately, and have never broken terms of U.S. visa before and claimed asylum in Canada directly, then it is up to U.S. discretion to cancel the visa or not (they usually do not.).
 
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denizfilizz93

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Apr 16, 2020
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Yes you can. You can't travel back to your home country, otherwise you can use your old passport along with refugee travel document as long as the visa is valid.
After your refugee application is approved, you can request to have your old passport back. U.S visas are not automatically canceled the moment you apply for asylum in Canada. Most information here is not valid.
If U.S. cancels your visa they will contact you, but you can always call the U.S. embassy and ask for validity of your visa if you got the document number of your visa and you should do that before trying to travel to U.S.

The law above is interpreted in a wrong manner. If you RENEW the passport of the country that you sought asylum from, or reapply for a new one yes your refugee status can get canceled. But requesting your passport back because you have valid visas for other countries , and using those visas to travel to said countries, while using RTD is perfectly okay. You shouldn't renew your passport even if it expires.

U.S. lets you use the visas in your old passports thats past its validity, and U.S. issues visas past passport validity due to this (They will issue 10 year visa, even if your passport expires in 7 years for example, so you can use your old passport and a RTD past its validity, despite passport expiring the visa on it is still valid).

Requesting your passport back from IRCC is not the same as renewing or obtaining your countrys passport. So if you get your passport back, and get a RTD and use the visa on it to travel to U.S., it is no problem. If you renew your passport, or get another passport from your home country it will lead to cancellation of your refugee status in Canada (not always enforced but that is the law). You should still not use your old passport as a main traveling document, always accompany it with a RTD.

As for comment above, Five Eyes countries share exit / entry information. Other countries do not share information with Canada or the U.S. (perhaps there are exceptions but EU doesn't, but has a shared information system within. Same for GCC countries and ex-Soviet ones). So the U.S. already knows you applied for asylum in Canada, if you get questioned in U.S. just explain the situation about you having a visa previously and sought asylum in Canada, they will check validity of your visa and decide whether to let you in or not.
My American visa is not in the passport I gave to immigration. It is in my old expired passport with holes. But I have an American visa in this passport until 2028. I did not receive my own passport from immigration. I did not request it. I was just wondering that i can enter with my perforated passport with an American visa and a valid Canadian travel document? (Both of them together) Of course, after confirming whether my visa is valid or not.
 

barismanco

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Sep 15, 2024
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My American visa is not in the passport I gave to immigration. It is in my old expired passport with holes. But I have an American visa in this passport until 2028. I did not receive my own passport from immigration. I did not request it. I was just wondering that i can enter with my perforated passport with an American visa and a valid Canadian travel document? (Both of them together?) Of course, after confirming whether my visa is valid or not.
Confirm visa validity first, if it is valid then you should be able to. As long as visa is valid and the information in RTD matches the information on visa, there should be no issues but it is always within border security to decide whether to let you in or not. If they ask you the reason of visit, you need to provide good answers. Visa does not grant free access to a country, U.S. border regularly denies Canadian citizens too.
 

Canadian_rainbow

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Aug 30, 2022
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I mean America allows travel with two passports. We were able to travel with the new passport with the valid visa in the old passport, but i am not sure that can I enter America with the same travel document and the American visa in my old passport.
You can get us visa in a month. I had my visa which was cancelled. I got my new visa on my rtd in a month I guess.
 

Canadian_rainbow

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Aug 30, 2022
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Yes you can. You can't travel back to your home country, otherwise you can use your old passport along with refugee travel document as long as the visa is valid.
After your refugee application is approved, you can request to have your old passport back. U.S visas are not automatically canceled the moment you apply for asylum in Canada. Most information here is not valid.
If U.S. cancels your visa they will contact you, but you can always call the U.S. embassy and ask for validity of your visa if you got the document number of your visa and you should do that before trying to travel to U.S.

The law above is interpreted in a wrong manner. If you RENEW the passport of the country that you sought asylum from, or reapply for a new one yes your refugee status can get canceled. But requesting your passport back because you have valid visas for other countries , and using those visas to travel to said countries, while using RTD is perfectly okay. You shouldn't renew your passport even if it expires.

U.S. lets you use the visas in your old passports thats past its validity, and U.S. issues visas past passport validity due to this (They will issue 10 year visa, even if your passport expires in 7 years for example, so you can use your old passport and a RTD past its validity, despite passport expiring the visa on it is still valid).

Requesting your passport back from IRCC is not the same as renewing or obtaining your countrys passport. So if you get your passport back, and get a RTD and use the visa on it to travel to U.S., it is no problem. If you renew your passport, or get another passport from your home country it will lead to cancellation of your refugee status in Canada (not always enforced but that is the law). You should still not use your old passport as a main traveling document, always accompany it with a RTD.

As for comment above, Five Eyes countries share exit / entry information. Other countries do not share information with Canada or the U.S. (perhaps there are exceptions but EU doesn't, but has a shared information system within. Same for GCC countries and ex-Soviet ones). So the U.S. already knows you applied for asylum in Canada, if you get questioned in U.S. just explain the situation about you having a visa previously and sought asylum in Canada, they will check validity of your visa and decide whether to let you in or not.

The U.S. as far as i know only cancels their Visas, if you break the terms of visa. For example, using U.S. visa to enter the U.S, then traveling to Canada illegally to claim asylum there breaks its conditions. In that case you should not get asylum in Canada due to safe third country agreement anyway but current administration of Canada grants asylum anyway, this however breaks the terms of U.S visa and your U.S. visa gets canceled. However if you hold Canadian visa and U.S. visa seperately, and have never broken terms of U.S. visa before and claimed asylum in Canada directly, then it is up to U.S. discretion to cancel the visa or not (they usually do not.).
I had us visa and Canada visa. I came to Canada directly and did refugee claim. But my us visa still cancelled.
 

Canadian_rainbow

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Aug 30, 2022
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How is this possible? Which state and city are you applying in? Whenever I check, they give appointments for 2026.
Since u have visa you don’t need appointment. They will send you instructions to renew it by mail. But they can call you for interview. They did for me and they opened spot. I got my interview next week.
 

denizfilizz93

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Apr 16, 2020
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Confirm visa validity first, if it is valid then you should be able to. As long as visa is valid and the information in RTD matches the information on visa, there should be no issues but it is always within border security to decide whether to let you in or not. If they ask you the reason of visit, you need to provide good answers. Visa does not grant free access to a country, U.S. border regularly denies Canadian citizens too.
The information you provided is very valuable, thank you very much. Well, as you said, do you know anyone (someone you've witnessed this with.) who travels with both your own country's passport and travel doc? Or who can I contact to confirm this?
 

denizfilizz93

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Apr 16, 2020
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Since u have visa you don’t need appointment. They will send you instructions to renew it by mail. But they can call you for interview. They did for me and they opened spot. I got my interview next week.
Can you give me detailed information about which department or section I can apply from?How will they send me those instructions? Thanks so much