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denizfilizz93

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The scenario I am inquiring about is as follows:
A person holds a valid U.S. visa in their passport from their home country.
This individual then applies for asylum in Canada and is granted permanent resident status (PR) through the Canadian asylum process.

My question is: Does applying for asylum in Canada automatically lead to the cancellation or invalidation of the U.S. visa in the person’s passport? Additionally, can the individual still use their U.S. visa to enter the United States using their passport from their country of origin after receiving Canadian PR status?
The visa was obtained in 2018 and is valid until 2028, but is this invalidate visa after seeking asylum in Canada in 2020.? Is there a place or phone number where I can check if my American visa is still valid? Should contact with American border?
 

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The scenario I am inquiring about is as follows:
A person holds a valid U.S. visa in their passport from their home country.
This individual then applies for asylum in Canada and is granted permanent resident status (PR) through the Canadian asylum process.

My question is: Does applying for asylum in Canada automatically lead to the cancellation or invalidation of the U.S. visa in the person’s passport? Additionally, can the individual still use their U.S. visa to enter the United States using their passport from their country of origin after receiving Canadian PR status?
The visa was obtained in 2018 and is valid until 2028, but is this invalidate visa after seeking asylum in Canada in 2020.? Is there a place or phone number where I can check if my American visa is still valid? Should contact with American border?
You can send an email to the embassy/consulate that you got your visa from. Mine cancelled. After my refugee case approved a month later I received email from Ankara says that my visa cancelled/revoked. But I got my another 10 years visa from Toronto on my refugee travel document.
 

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The scenario I am inquiring about is as follows:
A person holds a valid U.S. visa in their passport from their home country.
This individual then applies for asylum in Canada and is granted permanent resident status (PR) through the Canadian asylum process.

My question is: Does applying for asylum in Canada automatically lead to the cancellation or invalidation of the U.S. visa in the person’s passport? Additionally, can the individual still use their U.S. visa to enter the United States using their passport from their country of origin after receiving Canadian PR status?
The visa was obtained in 2018 and is valid until 2028, but is this invalidate visa after seeking asylum in Canada in 2020.? Is there a place or phone number where I can check if my American visa is still valid? Should contact with American border?
You do NOT want to use your countries passport

Remember you claimed asylum from that country. Telling Canada it could not protect you

People seriously have to read the room
 

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The scenario I am inquiring about is as follows:
A person holds a valid U.S. visa in their passport from their home country.
This individual then applies for asylum in Canada and is granted permanent resident status (PR) through the Canadian asylum process.

My question is: Does applying for asylum in Canada automatically lead to the cancellation or invalidation of the U.S. visa in the person’s passport? Additionally, can the individual still use their U.S. visa to enter the United States using their passport from their country of origin after receiving Canadian PR status?
The visa was obtained in 2018 and is valid until 2028, but is this invalidate visa after seeking asylum in Canada in 2020.? Is there a place or phone number where I can check if my American visa is still valid? Should contact with American border?
As others have said, you should check with the US embassy that you got your visa from or you should contact the US border. I would not recommend traveling without checking this first.

Also you technically can use your passport from your country of origin to travel (if the visa is valid), but you will be at a relatively high risk of losing your status in Canada as a protected person, which could lead to you losing your canadian PR. Using your home country's passport, renewing it or visiting your home country puts you at risk of re-availment/cessation of status.
 

denizfilizz93

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As others have said, you should check with the US embassy that you got your visa from or you should contact the US border. I would not recommend traveling without checking this first.

Also you technically can use your passport from your country of origin to travel (if the visa is valid), but you will be at a relatively high risk of losing your status in Canada as a protected person, which could lead to you losing your canadian PR. Using your home country's passport, renewing it or visiting your home country puts you at risk of re-availment/cessation of status.
but i called IRCC and they told me i can use my own country pasaport but they say only i can not go my home country. Any other third country that i can go, as they say.
 

denizfilizz93

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You can send an email to the embassy/consulate that you got your visa from. Mine cancelled. After my refugee case approved a month later I received email from Ankara says that my visa cancelled/revoked. But I got my another 10 years visa from Toronto on my refugee travel document.
I emailed to embassy. But they never reply me back . So thats why i am asking. Is there any other option that i can find out.
 

canuck78

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but i called IRCC and they told me i can use my own country pasaport but they say only i can not go my home country. Any other third country that i can go, as they say.
A customer service line should not be considered legal information. The customer agents are not always aware of actual immigration policies, especially for asylum claimants/protected people/refugees and are not a substitute for legal advice. You should not use any of your home country travel documents in addition to not traveling to your home country.
 
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ref19to22

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but i called IRCC and they told me i can use my own country pasaport but they say only i can not go my home country. Any other third country that i can go, as they say.
The law says you should not use your home country's passport as a protected person, you can read more about the law here https://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/legal-policy/legal-concepts/Pages/RefDef12.aspx#n125322

Even though an IRCC agent told you something to the contrary, that single agents word is not worth risking your status. The government will always revert back to what the law says, and it is pretty clear in the link I shared above. Read through it thoroughly.
 

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The law says you should not use your home country's passport as a protected person, you can read more about the law here https://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/legal-policy/legal-concepts/Pages/RefDef12.aspx#n125322

Even though an IRCC agent told you something to the contrary, that single agents word is not worth risking your status. The government will always revert back to what the law says, and it is pretty clear in the link I shared above. Read through it thoroughly.
But my question is: do they really enforce this law? Any cases on canlii? I’m really curious. I only know about cases when a refugee PR visited home country with their passport. But I heard a lot of people using the home country passport to travel everywhere but no home country, without issues.
 

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But my question is: do they really enforce this law? Any cases on canlii? I’m really curious. I only know about cases when a refugee PR visited home country with their passport. But I heard a lot of people using the home country passport to travel everywhere but no home country, without issues.
You don’t have access to all cessation cases on canlii. Previous enforcement levels are not predictors of future enforcement especially as Canada tries to reduce volume of PRs and temporary residents. If you fear for your life in your home country and value your status in Canada why take the risk?
 
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But my question is: do they really enforce this law? Any cases on canlii? I’m really curious. I only know about cases when a refugee PR visited home country with their passport. But I heard a lot of people using the home country passport to travel everywhere but no home country, without issues.
And what happens if they did enforce the law ?

You going to feign ignorance ?
Travelling under a countries passport is saying you want that country to protect you in your travels

It’s counter intuitive to do so when you’ve sought protection from that country by applying for asylum from that country

Why one would want to have anything to do with a country , example travelling on its passport , when you have had to seek refuge in another country is mind boggling to say the least

Btw I can see the Conservatives cracking down on this when they get into power .
They’ll want to show the electorate that they are totally different than the Liberals were .
 
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Copingwithlife

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Adding its 2025. You dont think the Government hasn’t put that passport information into the data bases along with the date it was requested to be returned and when it was returned ?

If it’s been used since it was given back ?

Exit / entry information is shared between numerous countries

This isn’t a game
 

Cayman

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I’m also against using a home country passport, but let’s be honest, many people have done this and are still doing it, without ANY consequences. And now, they’re even citizens. That’s the reality. You guys haven’t been able to present any cases where cessation occurred on these grounds.

Even IRCC agents and CBSA officers don’t seem to act on this at the border. Will things change in the future? Maybe, but until now, we haven’t seen any enforcement.
 

denizfilizz93

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Well, if my visa in my old passport is still valid, can I travel with my US visa in my old passport using a travel document? My visa is not printed on the passport that immigration confiscated. Before I sought asylum in Canada, I traveled with my US visa in my old passport using my new passport. If I get a travel document, can I travel if my US visa in my old passport is still valid? Because if I want to apply for a US visa using a travel document, I can make an appointment for 1.5 years later. That's why I asked this question.
 

denizfilizz93

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Well, if my visa in my old passport is still valid, can I travel with my US visa in my old passport using a travel document? My visa is not printed on the passport that immigration confiscated. Before I sought asylum in Canada, I traveled with my US visa in my old passport using my new passport. If I get a travel document, can I travel if my US visa in my old passport is still valid? Because if I want to apply for a US visa using a travel document, I can make an appointment for 1.5 years later. That's why I asked this question.
I mean America allows travel with two passports. We were able to travel with the new passport with the valid visa in the old passport, but i am not sure that can I enter America with the same travel document and the American visa in my old passport.