Im in the exact same position 4 months waiting for Oath. I submitted urgent request, called MP, called IRCC and they emailed my office (Niagara Falls) to say that the application is past the processing period. Nothing has worked. The only thing changed in my ATIP notes is the Category went from Grant to Attribution, and the location said E-GrantDF then changed to E-Grant and now it says E-Octroi. I have no idea what Attribution or E-Octroi mean I hope they are working on my file. I've lost hope at this point.
Waiting for Oath Ceremony
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I have been suffering personally and professionally at this point and am so disappointed. I have recently applied for the GCMS notes, waiting to receive them. I emailed the office today as well on the oath invite email that I could get from one of the forums, if you have another do let me know! IRCC.DNCitNGFScheduling02-ConvocationNGFCitRN.IRCC@cic.gc.ca Calling has not helped nor do web forms, MP representative has been non convincing and I have gotten bits and pieces of info here and there and not even sure what is the truth, it has been 9 months in total and 4 for the oath. I don't even know what else can I do 
am fed up. I don't see a point, if everything else is clear, what is the issue on the oath, My MP person even commented that sometimes they don't like your name or find it too common, I was like how dumb is that, we have submitted so many documents what else do they want? WTH even non routine means? online definition is completely different, that could also be one of the case, I have no clue at this point!
am fed up. I don't see a point, if everything else is clear, what is the issue on the oath, My MP person even commented that sometimes they don't like your name or find it too common, I was like how dumb is that, we have submitted so many documents what else do they want? WTH even non routine means? online definition is completely different, that could also be one of the case, I have no clue at this point!I am one month plus now,I have called and send email but nothing,its crazyI have been suffering personally and professionally at this point and am so disappointed. I have recently applied for the GCMS notes, waiting to receive them. I emailed the office today as well on the oath invite email that I could get from one of the forums, if you have another do let me know! IRCC.DNCitNGFScheduling02-ConvocationNGFCitRN.IRCC@cic.gc.ca Calling has not helped nor do web forms, MP representative has been non convincing and I have gotten bits and pieces of info here and there and not even sure what is the truth, it has been 9 months in total and 4 for the oath. I don't even know what else can I do
Not sure what "don't like your name" is about, but in regards to IRCC officials "find it too common" that can make sense if the applicant's name is so common extra scrutiny is necessary to verify this or that criminal or security information is not about the applicant. Thankfully IRCC will not deny the application based on name record hits, or require applicants to do the investigation necessary to conclusively document, to prove they are not the person identified in the name-record hit. But a name record hit can mean non-routine processing attendant an investigation by IRCC (and potentially CBSA, RCMP, or CSIS) to clear the hit. Not the applicant's fault. Not IRCC's fault. Fortunately no need to pursue recourse in the Courts (which can take YEARS) to get it resolved.
No idea if that is what the hold-up is for you . . . although, frankly, it does not appear there is a hold-up for you as yet.
Meanwhile, to be clear, notwithstanding unfounded clatter to the contrary, what IRCC is doing generally does make sense and it is a mistake to think otherwise. Some of the information IRCC provides leaves much to desire (and yes its information about processing times tends to be overly vague and can be confusing), but in terms of actual processing, in the absence of errors (yeah, that happens, and it is ridiculous to expect otherwise) what IRCC does generally makes sense . . . not necessarily what many want, but in terms of applying law and policy, generally what IRCC does makes sense. (There are exceptions, typically on a big scale, like the periodic failures of IRCC to reasonably handle PR visa applications, or the disastrous snafu in processing citizenship applications a bit over a decade ago, in the rollout of OB 407, when even the most routine processing time approached two years.)
For those encountering exceptionally long delays there is typically a real reason. Moreover, most applicants in that situation know or at least have a good idea what that is about, notwithstanding their vociferous denials.
But an application in process for less than a year is NOT anywhere near encountering an exceptionally long delay . . . leading to . . .
If your application is within the normal processing time period, how is that ridiculous? Or do you for some reason think that the MP's agent was lying to you? (No need to dwell on what is ridiculous here, but spoiler alert, up to a year is well within the normal processing time period.)I tried calling my MP again and his representative could not influence IRCC agent and the agent was adamant that I am in the normal processing time period, which is ridiculous. There is a chance that my application could be non-routine which doesn't makes sense as all the steps are complete and IRCC has changed my processing location as well on their own wish somewhere in between. I am getting bits and pieces of information from all the efforts I am making. Overall MP office has been useless.
If you are expecting to be scheduled for the oath within the processing times IRCC has posted for citizenship applications generally, that indicates you are cherry-picking IRCC information. They clearly state:
We can’t tell you exactly how long it will take us to process your application. Each application is different and takes a different amount of time to process.
That said, if you are not inclined to patiently wait a few more months to get scheduled for the oath there is anecdotal reporting that some applicants are successfully investing two to five thousand dollars into having a lawyer pursue mandamus relief, which might shave some weeks, perhaps even a couple months, off how much longer it will take.
[QUOTE="dpenabill, post: 10952333, member:
Dear can I have some advice
Applied march 2023
Family with 3 minors
My application complete since December 2023
Wife only waiting for prohibited in progress
Background just complete for wife 23 Oct 2024.
Dear can I have some advice
Applied march 2023
Family with 3 minors
My application complete since December 2023
Wife only waiting for prohibited in progress
Background just complete for wife 23 Oct 2024.
Well thank you for your input, If you could see the things from my lens and situation etc and how the communications have been brought to me, it has been ridiculous, and I have seen people breeze through the process. I am not going to hire a lawyer or fight the system, that is not the intent. I just want a real update on my file that is it! as everyone I have contacted have never been able to get the exact situation. My name is not common to begin with. There are many people like me I am well aware of that as well! I think I am making a mistake here as I was just looking for support and or some suggestion and I should accept the things as they are according to you as IRCC always makes sense and that is the reality of it! and I am being ridiculous to expect otherwise, and my desires are beyond reality! We are a failure in order to think otherwise and IRCC is exceptional! after 3 months it will be 1 year and if that is no where near to be a long delay then it is what it is! By the way I met the MP representative in person, and I could see myself how interested was that person or rather how convincing. Thank you for sharing all the resources above I have already gone through each of them. I hope you have a good day VIP member!!!!!
well no that is not the point, I just want to know what actually is happening and what can I do to resolve it or push it as a lot of us are, I am on a time crunch here due a varied reasons! But yeah I have tried to communicate through all channels and have got different responses all the time, so thought to write here and see if someone has anything else to add!
I am not qualified to offer advice and, moreover, even if I was qualified, to offer personal advice would require an extensive and intimate examination of all the relevant information, which includes a lot of personal detail it would not be wise to share in a forum like this or with anyone but a professional, or trusted family or friend.
Family applications can be held up by non-routine processing involving any one member of the family.
As I noted in my previous post, most applicants encountering an exceptionally lengthy delay actually know or have a good idea why . . . after all, the applicant knows more about their own case than anyone else, including the processing agent handling it. And again, despite the vociferous denials otherwise.
A common example in this forum is the applicant who had relocated outside Canada after applying claiming they have no clue why their application is taking longer than others, when just that fact alone suggests many reasons for non-routine processing and delays, not the least of which is the reasonable inference that where a person now lives may indicate where they have been living in the past, virtually demanding more scrutiny of their claims about actual physical presence. Additionally, verification of no prohibitions or security concerns for persons living outside Canada, or spending extended periods outside Canada, can involve referrals that result in lengthy delays. So for those living outside Canada after applying, there should be no surprise if the process is taking a lot longer.
That is not to suggest that is your case. That is just one example. There are way too many possible reasons to try enumerating why IRCC might be engaged in additional or "non-routine" processing for this or that particular applicant.
Sometimes call centre or webform queries, and ATIP records requests, can indicate what issue is causing problems. Many request their MP make inquiries. Even though these efforts generally do not illuminate much, they can in some cases, and they are typically the first steps to take when the amount of time that has passed is approaching or is longer than about double the posted time line (which would be a year to 14 months now, given the posted 7 month processing time). If you have not taken those steps, it appears that more than enough time has passed for you to at least make those queries.
If you have made those queries and you genuinely do not know what might be delaying things, a lawyer may be able to help. No guarantee.
There are scores of forum participants that make these queries before that amount of time has passed, generally to little or no avail . . . the application is in a queue, and that's the sum and substance of it, it is in a queue, in line waiting for the local office to take the next step. Like being in the checkout line at Walmart on a Saturday afternoon before a holiday, except you don't see the other customers in line in front of you.
Leading to . . .
Let's be honest. You post "according to you . . . IRCC always makes sense." That is NOT true. That is NOT what I said. Rather, according to me (to put it that way), I said that "what IRCC is doing generally does make sense." Emphasis added. Not a huge difference, but nonetheless it appears to illustrate the "lens" through which you see and interpret things. What I try to offer is a lens through which those who are unnecessarily anxious can better see and understand the process and how it works, and in most instances to be reassured the odds are good there is nothing wrong, that things are on track, even if it is taking longer than it does for SOME, noting it is still NOT so long as to be as long as it is for many, many others.
So, to be clear, the odds are, assuming you met all the qualifications at the time you made the application, and you continue to meet all the requirements, and you applied with at least a month more than 1095 days credit toward the physical presence requirement, and there is no reason for any criminality or security concerns, and you continue to live in Canada, assuming all that, you should be on track to be scheduled for the oath within 12 to 14 months of when you applied.
Beyond that, no one here can give you an update on the status of your citizenship application. Timelines vary for many reasons. The processing agent handling files in the local office (where your application is in queue) will not open and examine your file to evaluate why it has taken as much time as it has to reach this stage, or to assess how much longer it will take. And otherwise, unless there is an obvious issue in your file, no one else will be able to conduct a review of the file that will illuminate more than that.
And to the extent that is saying no more than that is how things work, yeah, how things work is how they work. But for many understanding how things work and that, in particular, there is no indication things are off track for them, is reassuring.[/QUOTE]
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Never travel since applied 2018 till today
My application done all green
August applied atip
that time wife application was csis not completed
wife all green except prohibited and oath
Wife in prohibited
Kids nothing changed.
I sent an email to this one IRCC.DNNGFCitizenshipe-Apps-DemandesenligneCitoyenneteNGFRN.IR@cic.gc.ca on Sept 27th which is the email for citizenship test. Later when I called they told me that they saw the email and marked it as an urgent request and that the officer processing my file will take a look. It even showed up in my GCMS notes so they definitely saw the email but my application did not move at all. I also emailed the one you mentioned above (oath email) but there was no indication that they received it and it did not show up in GCMS notes. So try sending an email to the one I put in this reply they will likely see it but might not do anything which is what happened with me.
Thank you for sharing will try that, I did get a reply from the Oath one, but they stated that this is not the correct email box as per my query... at least they saw that! and I got a reply...