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zardoz

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16-02-2013
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31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
retwant said:
Some people are vulnerable and others are not. It could be poor access of information, ignorance, culture, gullible, poor intelligence, or many other factors. It is good that you are not, but not everyone is the same. This scam has repeated so many times already and could be involving inside work. Hopefully, karma will bite these scammers soon and very hard...
It is safe to say that they are gaining access to privileged information and, given that it's almost exclusively Indian applications, it's not unreasonable to suspect that someone in New Delhi is helping.
 

Amisnic

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Mar 28, 2014
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Sydney NS
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NOC 2133
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30-04-2014
AOR Received.
22-05-2014
Med's Done....
20-03-2015
LANDED..........
02-06-2015
Maybe do the yearly pooja to ward of the evils spirits.



retwant said:
Some people are vulnerable and others are not. It could be poor access of information, ignorance, culture, gullible, poor intelligence, or many other factors. It is good that you are not, but not everyone is the same. This scam has repeated so many times already and could be involving inside work. Hopefully, karma will bite these scammers soon and very hard...
 

sava

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Apr 28, 2009
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CPP-Ottawa
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2131
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Pre-Assessed..
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03-May-2012; 11-Jul-2013 (CEC)
Doc's Request.
Not yet
Nomination.....
N/A
AOR Received.
17-May-2012; 09-SEP-2013 (CEC)
IELTS Request
Submitted with application
Med's Request
16-OCT-2013
Med's Done....
13-Nov-2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
24-Jan-2014
VISA ISSUED...
14-Feb-2014
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28-Feb-2014 (North Portal, SK)
Hello,

We (My wife first and then I) received a very similar call from a lady ("unknown" number) who tried to pull the same thing with me. I told them that I don't have any application in process with CIC and that we already have received our Permanent Residency last year. Then she tried to threaten me with the same stuff, and went a step further by stating that the Canadian High Commission in India has filed a report with the CIC on 22 Dec 2014 after trying to contact me for the "Unique Identification Number" (UIN) as it is missing in my file and that the case was now being handles by CIC in Ottawa. I then tried to inquire what this Unique Identification number is? The responded that like SIN in Canada a Unique Identification Number is provided in India. This was required by CIC/Canadian Government due to some "rule" changes. I suggested then that she might be looking for AADHAR number and told her that I can provide this number if necessary. She then completely lost it and started speaking very loudly saying " Sir, you need to listen to me. Let me finish. It is not a Indian Driver's License number, It is not an Income Tax identification number that is also referred to as PAN, and it is also not a Unique Identification number provided by the Indian Govt also referred to as AADHAR. This is different number." She then tried to threaten me that if the CIC's legal department calls me in the next 1 to 5 days and then I can't provide them the UIN then my stay in Canada could be jeopardized and it is a very serious matter. She then suggested that either I would have to fly back to India to take care of this in the next 5-10 days or they could send the case back to India and provide me with a case officer that would be coordinating things for me from here in Canada. At this point things got very confusing and unclear for me. I told her that if I needed to got to India to take care or this I can do that, no problem. But, I have to first figure out and know exactly what number it is that they are looking for. I asked her to give me her contact information so that I can find out what it is, and call her back before the end of day. She then said that she would forward my file to legal and copy/provide all the information in an e-mail to me which includes here contact information as well. She suggested that after going through the e-mail, I could call her if I have any questions. It has been 3 hours since the phone call but I haven't received any e-mail yet.

I have since then found this page, have reported this incident to the local police, informed the Canadian Anti Fraud Centre, and I'm sending an e-mail to CIC as well. I just wanted to share my experience so that whoever follows this is also aware.

Regards
SaVa
 

Goku

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Jan 13, 2014
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sava said:
Hello,

We (My wife first and then I) received a very similar call from a lady ("unknown" number) who tried to pull the same thing with me. I told them that I don't have any application in process with CIC and that we already have received our Permanent Residency last year. Then she tried to threaten me with the same stuff, and went a step further by stating that the Canadian High Commission in India has filed a report with the CIC on 22 Dec 2014 after trying to contact me for the "Unique Identification Number" (UIN) as it is missing in my file and that the case was now being handles by CIC in Ottawa. I then tried to inquire what this Unique Identification number is? The responded that like SIN in Canada a Unique Identification Number is provided in India. This was required by CIC/Canadian Government due to some "rule" changes. I suggested then that she might be looking for AADHAR number and told her that I can provide this number if necessary. She then completely lost it and started speaking very loudly saying " Sir, you need to listen to me. Let me finish. It is not a Indian Driver's License number, It is not an Income Tax identification number that is also referred to as PAN, and it is also not a Unique Identification number provided by the Indian Govt also referred to as AADHAR. This is different number." She then tried to threaten me that if the CIC's legal department calls me in the next 1 to 5 days and then I can't provide them the UIN then my stay in Canada could be jeopardized and it is a very serious matter. She then suggested that either I would have to fly back to India to take care of this in the next 5-10 days or they could send the case back to India and provide me with a case officer that would be coordinating things for me from here in Canada. At this point things got very confusing and unclear for me. I told her that if I needed to got to India to take care or this I can do that, no problem. But, I have to first figure out and know exactly what number it is that they are looking for. I asked her to give me her contact information so that I can find out what it is, and call her back before the end of day. She then said that she would forward my file to legal and copy/provide all the information in an e-mail to me which includes here contact information as well. She suggested that after going through the e-mail, I could call her if I have any questions. It has been 3 hours since the phone call but I haven't received any e-mail yet.

I have since then found this page, have reported this incident to the local police, informed the Canadian Anti Fraud Centre, and I'm sending an e-mail to CIC as well. I just wanted to share my experience so that whoever follows this is also aware.

Regards
SaVa
Handled it very well. +1
 

zardoz

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09-11-2013
There's a serious security breach somewhere... And I know where I'd start looking if I was CIC.
 

warasita

Newbie
Dec 6, 2021
6
1
Hi everyone.

And thank you in advance for those who could give their insight about my case..

Currently, I am a holding a WP and my husband is a PR, we got married last May. We go through the process of spousal PR application. We are being guided by an agency with the whole process. The application has been lodged last Sept 1. Received my;

AOR - Oct 7
Biometrics done - Oct 8
Medical done - Oct 9
Submitted police clearance from singapore - Oct 11

The challenge and worry that I have been facing now is,
Sept 26 - I am being charged by my previous employer of criminal charges. We have a lawyer who is working on it. Finger print date will be on Oct 31, Court zoom appearance Nov 8.

We have been communicating thoroughly with our agency about what’s going on. They are updated. We were told that they will informed the Ircc about the charges which is crucial and also a mandatory, we did not hesitated and we are just going to whatever the advice of our agency. I am aware that my application will be put on hold bacause of this charges until it gets resolved and whatnot.
Our agency told us that the other option we could do now is to apply for TRP for the reason that my working permit is expiring soon January 2025.

What’s gonna happen now? I felt like i am losing my mind and my hope everyday since the day I am being served.
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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Hi everyone.

And thank you in advance for those who could give their insight about my case..

Currently, I am a holding a WP and my husband is a PR, we got married last May. We go through the process of spousal PR application. We are being guided by an agency with the whole process. The application has been lodged last Sept 1. Received my;

AOR - Oct 7
Biometrics done - Oct 8
Medical done - Oct 9
Submitted police clearance from singapore - Oct 11

The challenge and worry that I have been facing now is,
Sept 26 - I am being charged by my previous employer of criminal charges. We have a lawyer who is working on it. Finger print date will be on Oct 31, Court zoom appearance Nov 8.

We have been communicating thoroughly with our agency about what’s going on. They are updated. We were told that they will informed the Ircc about the charges which is crucial and also a mandatory, we did not hesitated and we are just going to whatever the advice of our agency. I am aware that my application will be put on hold bacause of this charges until it gets resolved and whatnot.
Our agency told us that the other option we could do now is to apply for TRP for the reason that my working permit is expiring soon January 2025.

What’s gonna happen now? I felt like i am losing my mind and my hope everyday since the day I am being served.
You can certainly attempt to get a TRP. Processing can be around a year. The outcome of your criminal case will have a large impact on longterm ability to remain in Canada.