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Emergency situation, I need to fly back to Italy as soon as possible

bismuth

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I have an emergency situation, I have to return to Italy as soon as possible. The problem is my passport expired in April (long story) and I don't know if I'm allowed to board an airplane to go to my home country without a valid passport. I only have enough money for a plane ticket and probably a couple nights at a hotel. I found a couple flights to Italy with either 1 or 2 stops in Germany or London.

Would I be able to board a plane to my home country in my situation? I know Italy does accept me back in regardless of expired document (I have a valid national ID anyway) but I'm not sure about airlines and Canada's policies.

Thanks for the help.
 

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I have an emergency situation, I have to return to Italy as soon as possible. The problem is my passport expired in April (long story) and I don't know if I'm allowed to board an airplane to go to my home country without a valid passport. I only have enough money for a plane ticket and probably a couple nights at a hotel. I found a couple flights to Italy with either 1 or 2 stops in Germany or London.

Would I be able to board a plane to my home country in my situation? I know Italy does accept me back in regardless of expired document (I have a valid national ID anyway) but I'm not sure about airlines and Canada's policies.

Thanks for the help.
You will not be allowed to board.

You need a valid passport or emergency travel document. You will not be allowed to board with a national ID. Contact the Italian embassy / consulate and see what it will take to get an emergeny travel document.
 

bismuth

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You will not be allowed to board.

You need a valid passport or emergency travel document. You will not be allowed to board with a national ID. Contact the Italian embassy / consulate and see what it will take to get an emergeny travel document.
They said they'll issue me an emergency travel document but I will have to first travel to Vancouver for it or apply and get it send via mail which is not an option. Either way I can't wait for the temporary passport to arrive nor do I have an address to have it sent to.

What would happen if I go to the airport and ask the CBSA to deport me instead? I would assume this to be faster.
 

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They said they'll issue me an emergency travel document but I will have to first travel to Vancouver for it or apply and get it send via mail which is not an option. Either way I can't wait for the temporary passport to arrive nor do I have an address to have it sent to.

What would happen if I go to the airport and ask the CBSA to deport me instead? I would assume this to be faster.
I can't imagine CBSA incurring the trouble (and expense) to, in essence, make up for your failure to renew your passport.

Hope you find a way to get to Italy.
 
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bismuth

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I can't imagine CBSA incurring the trouble (and expense) to, in essence, make up for your failure to renew your passport.

Hope you find a way to get to Italy.
Even if in Canada with an expired visa? They can't deport me although I ask?
 

scylla

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They said they'll issue me an emergency travel document but I will have to first travel to Vancouver for it or apply and get it send via mail which is not an option. Either way I can't wait for the temporary passport to arrive nor do I have an address to have it sent to.

What would happen if I go to the airport and ask the CBSA to deport me instead? I would assume this to be faster.
You cannot just go to the airport and ask CBSA to deport you. It doesn't work that way. This will not work.

Secondly, you would still need to have a valid travel document or passport to be put on a plane. In situations where CBSA is deporting someone and that person doesn't have a valid passport, they will reach out to the relevant embassy / consulate to obtain a travel document. This generally takes months.

You need to work with your embassy / consulate to obtain the emergency travel document.
 
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scylla

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LANDED..........
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Even if in Canada with an expired visa? They can't deport me although I ask?
No. Again, doesn't work that way.

If you want to be able to leave as soon as possible, the only option is to work with your embassy / consulate and get their help to secure the travel document.
 
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bismuth

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No. Again, doesn't work that way.

If you want to be able to leave as soon as possible, the only option is to work with your embassy / consulate and get their help to secure the travel document.
Will I be able to board a flight to Vancouver from central Alberta? It's an in person appointment.
 

scylla

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File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010

scylla

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Jun 8, 2010
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23,409
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
They will accept my expired passport?
I'm not sure about that but you said you have the valid national ID.

Check with the airline before booking anything.
 

forevermore76

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I'm not Canadian, I came to Canada as a visitor.
Call the Italian Consulate in Vancouver and explain your situation in detail, they might just help you out and get you home.
https://consvancouver.esteri.it/en/servizi-consolari-e-visti/servizi-per-il-cittadino-italiano/emergency-travel-documents-etd/

Another option is you hitchhike to Halifax or NL and try to find someone who might be going on a Trans-Atlantic voyage like on a chartered/private yacht. Port of Halifax to Port of Lisboa is about 2900nm so about 2 weeks of journey. Once you are in Lisbon, you can gain entry in to EU using your National Identity card and hitchhike your way to Italy. Quite the adventure and farfetched probably but in theory it should work as SEF can't deny you entry in to Portugal if you present a valid EU National ID card. Start by posting an ad on Kijiji maybe lol. All the best and I hope you make it home!
 
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