Long game fraud

[natchocart]

I am a natural third generation Canadian who married a Chinese woman in China. I then sponsored her to Canada. She stayed with me to get her folks here also. I came to learn that she was already married in China for 4 years before I met her. Upon her folks arriving she immediately house seppated from me having affairs looking for a man with more money. Not relevant but we had achieved three properties by that point. She left with bf number 5 or six emptied the savings and TFSA and purchased another property under her fathers name to achieve first time home buyer status.
And yes I know. Just call the police. This isn't a crime forum, my question is, does anyone know my recourse if any in regards to immigration law?

 

[scylla]

I am a natural third generation Canadian who married a Chinese woman in China. I then sponsored her to Canada. She stayed with me to get her folks here also. I came to learn that she was already married in China for 4 years before I met her. Upon her folks arriving she immediately house seppated from me having affairs looking for a man with more money. Not relevant but we had achieved three properties by that point. She left with bf number 5 or six emptied the savings and TFSA and purchased another property under her fathers name to achieve first time home buyer status.
And yes I know. Just call the police. This isn't a crime forum, my question is, does anyone know my recourse if any in regards to immigration law?

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/protect-fraud/report-fraud.html

 

[natchocart]

Thank you for the response. Reporting is another option. I know this. I hate long winded posts so here is the part left out. We had two children before the parent arrived. The property was to accumulate equity for their education. The Mom and Dad have never lived together and absolutely couldn't do it here so Mom went home. I applied under an earlier imm rules and the remaining parent will receive a Canada pension after he has been here 10 years. The fraudulent wife has already achieved Canadian citizenship. I am reluctant to proceed. I would like to learn all that is learnable first.

 

[scylla]

Thank you for the response. Reporting is another option. I know this. I hate long winded posts so here is the part left out. We had two children before the parent arrived. The property was to accumulate equity for their education. The Mom and Dad have never lived together and absolutely couldn't do it here so Mom went home. I applied under an earlier imm rules and the remaining parent will receive a Canada pension after he has been here 10 years. The fraudulent wife has already achieved Canadian citizenship. I am reluctant to proceed. I would like to learn all that is learnable first.

I don't understand what you are asking. I don't understand what you mean by "learn all that is learnable".

 

[natchocart]

The most important thing to me is the two children. I don't want to proceed in any way until I know exactly what will happen. I was hoping to use this forum for advice pertaining to immigration laws and possible outcomes. Maybe someone could recommend what part of a huge volume of information to focus on.

 

[YVR123]

The most important thing to me is the two children. I don't want to proceed in any way until I know exactly what will happen. I was hoping to use this forum for advice pertaining to immigration laws and possible outcomes. Maybe someone could recommend what part of a huge volume of information to focus on.

Are the children Canadians? If so, nothing "immigration wise" will happen to them.
It's family law and custody of the children.

 

[scylla]

The most important thing to me is the two children. I don't want to proceed in any way until I know exactly what will happen. I was hoping to use this forum for advice pertaining to immigration laws and possible outcomes. Maybe someone could recommend what part of a huge volume of information to focus on.

It's quite simple. If you report her for immigration fraud and there is enough evidence to determine she obtained PR through misrepresentation, and IRCC / CBSA decides to pursue this formally, she could have her citizenship revoked. There's no way for any of us to say what will happen. If anything does happen, assume it will take years.

If you report her from an immigration perspective, it may result in a loss of her citizenship and she may need to leave Canada. So you need to be OK with that consequence.

 

[Amiah_world]

I am a natural third generation Canadian who married a Chinese woman in China. I then sponsored her to Canada. She stayed with me to get her folks here also. I came to learn that she was already married in China for 4 years before I met her. Upon her folks arriving she immediately house seppated from me having affairs looking for a man with more money. Not relevant but we had achieved three properties by that point. She left with bf number 5 or six emptied the savings and TFSA and purchased another property under her fathers name to achieve first time home buyer status.
And yes I know. Just call the police. This isn't a crime forum, my question is, does anyone know my recourse if any in regards to immigration law?

Count your losses, this is legal issue not immigration.

 

[Amiah_world]

It's quite simple. If you report her for immigration fraud and there is enough evidence to determine she obtained PR through misrepresentation, and IRCC / CBSA decides to pursue this formally, she could have her citizenship revoked. There's no way for any of us to say what will happen. If anything does happen, assume it will take years.

If you report her from an immigration perspective, it may result in a loss of her citizenship and she may need to leave Canada. So you need to be OK with that consequence.

Incorrect. This is way way pass immigration now stop giving misleading information. This man bought three properties and shares three or two children with this woman this ain’t no immigration matter.

 

[Flyingfast]

If you have concrete evidence, she was legally marred to someone else at the time of your marriage, then she committed fraud as your marriage was never valid.

If you can't prove she committed polygamy then you are beating a dead horse, You were together many years and have two children as a result. Immigration will view this as a failed marriage and nothing more. I doubt they would even consider investigating. You sound more like a disgruntled ex.

 

[Amiah_world]

If you have concrete evidence, she was legally marred to someone else at the time of your marriage, then she committed fraud as your marriage was never valid.

If you can't prove she committed polygamy then you are beating a dead horse, You were together many years and have two children as a result. Immigration will view this as a failed marriage and nothing more. I doubt they would even consider investigating. You sound more like a disgruntled ex.

Exactly my point as well, I made a previous comment this is way way behind immigration matter and others are telling him oh CBSA will investigate lol like stop making up stupidity. This man said he has children with her and bought properties so theirs relationship was going really good, now for whatever reasons they’ve broken up and he’s son here ranting about other stuff now looking to see if he can get immigration involved is really bitter and distasteful of him. This is 100% family law not immigration.

 

[scylla]

Incorrect. This is way way pass immigration now stop giving misleading information. This man bought three properties and shares three or two children with this woman this ain’t no immigration matter.

There is in fact an immigration matter here. If OP can concretely prove that the spouse was married to someone else at the time they got married, this is major misrepresentation and means that both PR and citizenship were obtained fraudulently. Whether CBSA and IRCC pursue this is an entirely different matter. However you are very much mistaken if you really believe there is no immigration issue here.

Revocation of citizenship is possible in these circumstances.

 

[Amiah_world]

There is in fact an immigration matter here. If OP can concretely prove that the spouse was married to someone else at the time they got married, this is major misrepresentation and means that both PR and citizenship were obtained fraudulently. Whether CBSA and IRCC pursue this is an entirely different matter. However you are very much mistaken if you really believe there is no immigration issue here.

Revocation of citizenship is possible in these circumstances.

Lmao this is Canada buddy, while your statement might be true it’s not that easy to get to these points. This man is clearly a disgruntled ex, we gotta pick up the pieces of our lives and move on. I hate to see people coming on here looking for answers and ways to get their significant other to loose status and what not, this here isn’t one of those games ppl play to manipulate it was a very devoted relationship that went left now OP is looking for every chance to be back at this woman . Lmao …

 

[scylla]

Lmao this is Canada buddy, while your statement might be true it’s not that easy to get to these points. This man is clearly a disgruntled ex, we gotta pick up the pieces of our lives and move on. I hate to see people coming on here looking for answers and ways to get their significant other to loose status and what not, this here isn’t one of those games ppl play to manipulate it was a very devoted relationship that went left now OP is looking for every chance to be back at this woman . Lmao …

You are missing the point on the marriage potentially not being legal and the immigration implications. But I can't be bothered to argue further.

 

[forevermore76]

Lmao this is Canada buddy, while your statement might be true it’s not that easy to get to these points. This man is clearly a disgruntled ex, we gotta pick up the pieces of our lives and move on. I hate to see people coming on here looking for answers and ways to get their significant other to loose status and what not, this here isn’t one of those games ppl play to manipulate it was a very devoted relationship that went left now OP is looking for every chance to be back at this woman . Lmao …

A relationship which was founded on fraud.. Child custody is a family court matter but immigration fraud does exist and believe it or not, IRCC will investigate if they receive a tip.

OP's woman violated 16(1) and would be found inadmissible.

"Polygamous marriages are not legal in Canada and are an offence under the Criminal Code of Canada. A spouse is not a member of the family class if the spouse or sponsor was already married to another person at the time of the subsequent marriage [R117(9)(c)(i)]"

Here's how legality of marriage is assessed. Clearly can't be married and get married.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/permanent-residence/non-economic-classes/family-class-determining-spouse/legality.html

Here's how IRCC handles the process of revocation.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/canadian-citizenship/acquisition-loss/revocation.html

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/canadian-citizenship/acquisition-loss/revocation-process.html

Although not directly related to OP's situation, here are some interesting cases.
Canada v Parekh
Khuong v Canada
Liang v Canada
Antony v Canada

IRCC has an obligation to Canadian public just like any other govt agency to maintain the integrity of it's programs and policies.

This is where OP needs to start: https://bwl-lsf.cbsa-asfc.cloud-nuage.canada.ca/tip-sub-en.html

It might take time, a lot of time but they will get to the bottom of it. The real question is how far is OP willing to go and what would they lose in the process. It will make things probably even more ugly and everyone will suffer including the innocent kids.