Visa refuse

[Muhammaed Hasan]

My mother applied for a visitor visa to see my sister who is a PR in Canada. My sister had an accident that resulted bone fracture. We provided all hospital admission reports, Doctors' notes. We applied only for my mother's visitor visa after 3 months of her accident. The doctor recommended family support to recover her condition. But her visa was refused...

Now it is almost 5 months after my sister's accident, she has not recovered, we collected the doctor's updated note again and planning to apply again. We need your advise...

"I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/ section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors: • The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application."

 

[Naturgrl]

My mother applied for a visitor visa to see my sister who is a PR in Canada. My sister had an accident that resulted bone fracture. We provided all hospital admission reports, Doctors' notes. We applied only for my mother's visitor visa after 3 months of her accident. The doctor recommended family support to recover her condition. But her visa was refused...

Now it is almost 5 months after my sister's accident, she has not recovered, we collected the doctor's updated note again and planning to apply again. We need your advise...

"I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/ section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors: • The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application."

Did you order GCMS notes? If not that may give more detailed explanation. How long was visit? How did you explain “family support” for her to recover? She is coming to visit not help as that would be considered to work to IRCC.

 

[Muhammaed Hasan]

Did you order GCMS notes? If not that may give more detailed explanation. How long was visit? How did you explain “family support” for her to recover? She is coming to visit not help as that would be considered to work to IRCC.

Please see my answer:
Did you order GCMS notes? : We did not order for GCMS notes.
How long was visit? : 2 months
How did you explain “family support” for her to recover? : Yes, We explained that my mother would visit my sister to support her for two months to recover.
She is coming to visit not help as that would be considered to work to IRCC. We said she is coming to help her.

 

[Naturgrl]

We explained that my mother would visit my sister to support her for two months to help her to recover. We did not order for GCMS notes.

Really should order GCMS note because refusal can mean visit is too long and she is coming to help. The invitation should not say anything about support or help because IRCC may consider it work. Invitation should be visit daughter and spend time with her. She needs to show ties to return and ask for a two or three week visit.

 

[Muhammaed Hasan]

Really should order GCMS note because refusal can mean visit is too long and she is coming to help. The invitation should not say anything about support or help because IRCC may consider it work. Invitation should be visit daughter and spend time with her. She needs to show ties to return and ask for a two or three week visit.

Thank you, sir. I understand your point and its an excellent point.

The previous application was refused almost one ago. So, We are planning to apply again now. Is the time ok ? Or We should apply after some more days. ?

 

[Muhammaed Hasan]

Sir, I have another question. If I apply today. what should I mention as the duration for the visit? Start and return date. Please

 

[Naturgrl]

Thank you, sir. I understand your point and its an excellent point.

The previous application was refused almost one ago. So, We are planning to apply again now. Is the time ok ? Or We should apply after some more days. ?

So it was refused a year ago or only a a month ago? What are you changing to address the reason for refusal if you don’t have GCMS notes. Most likely is because the visit was too long (two to three weeks) and the doctor‘s note didn’t help saying she needs help and to IRCC that means work.

 

[Muhammaed Hasan]

So it was refused a year ago or only a a month ago? What are you changing to address the reason for refusal if you don’t have GCMS notes. Most likely is because the visit was too long (two to three weeks) and the doctor‘s note didn’t help saying she needs help and to IRCC that means work.

So it was refused a year ago or only a month ago? Only one month ago.

Now I will explain the purpose of the visit is to see my sister and spend some quality time so that my sister's mental stress can be reduced. Because my sister is taking depression medication. She is mentally upset with her accident and physical condition, she lost her job, mentally she is mentally distressed. And visit time would be three weeks.

Doctor's note says that my sister had an accident that resulted Vertebral Fracture, She is suffering with depression and diabetic, and she is taking depression medication.

 

[Naturgrl]

So it was refused a year ago or only a month ago? Only one month ago.

Now I will explain the purpose of the visit is to see my sister and spend some quality time so that my sister's mental stress can be reduced. Because my sister is taking depression medication. She is mentally upset with her accident and physical condition, she lost her job, mentally she is mentally distressed. And visit time would be three weeks.

Doctor's note says that my sister had an accident that resulted Vertebral Fracture, She is suffering with depression and diabetic, and she is taking depression medication.

So you have a new doctor’s note that makes no mention of support? Is she single/married? How is she getting support to do things now?

So all that is changing is length of visit and now spending quality time instead of helping. IRCC has past notes/letters etc. If she is unable to do things then say spouse/home care worker/cleaner/cook/ counsellor/physio/OT is providing support with day to day living. If she has depression then talk about how she is getting therapy. Outline her physio schedule etc. Given first application had a doctor’s note and letter stating that she needed help. The second application has to update how your sister is now getting help so your mom can just come visit. Discuss why two weeks is enough time to come.

She can try and if refused again then get GCMS notes and wait 6 months. Applying so quickly after a refusal is a red flag for IRCC.

 

[Muhammaed Hasan]

Dear Sir/Madam,

I drafted the purpose of the visit and shared it here for your kind help: Could you please check it for me. We collected the doctor's note again but I am thinking of not attaching the doctor's note in this second application. Please give your comments on it. I am waiting for your reply.

The doctor has given this current note: "This is to certify that AFSANA AKTER had a fall resulted in Lumber Vertebral Fracture. Her mother lives in Bangladesh and wants to visit in Canada. I would appreciate if the mother’s application for a visit visa gets approved. The information is as follows:"

The doctor's previous note: "This is to certify that AFSANA AKTER has some chronic health condition and she needs help from family members. Her mother lives in Bangladesh and wants to come and help her. I would appreciate if the mother’s application for a visit visa gets approved. The information is as follows:"

RE : PURPOSE OF MY VISIT

I, ALIA BEGUM, date of birth: xxxxx, National ID No: xxxxx, Passport No: xxx, am currently residing at sorder bari, Sudharam, Sadar-3800, Bangladesh.

My younger daughter AFSANA AKTER, Permanent Resident of Canada, Permanent Resident Card no: xxxxxx, residing at 76 Pharmacy Avenue, Scarborough, ON, Canada.

REASON TO VISIT CANADA:

AFSANA AKTER got injured by falling on the stairs which resulted in a Lumber Vertebral Fracture. She was admitted to Michael Garron General Hospital at 825 Coxwell Avenue in East York, Toronto, Ontario on July 7, 2023, and stayed in the hospital until July 13, 2023. I attached the hospital admission and diagnostic reports herewith this application.

Her husband managed more time to take care of herself and recently she recovered physically but mentally distressed by the accident. At this moment, she needs a family connection for some quality time to improve her mental condition. As a mother, I should meet her. So, I am planning to visit them for two weeks from February 25, 2024, to March 12, 2024.

Last four years, my daughter AFSANA AKTER and my loving grandsons RATUL and FAHAD encouraged me to visit Canada but I could not manage time. I think it is time to see my daughter and my grandsons to make them a quality time for two weeks.

RETURN TO RETURN IN BANGLADESH:

I have family members in Bangladesh: my husband, my biological mother (90), and my other elder daughter SHAHNA AKTER who has been surviving with Breast Cancer in Bangladesh. She has two kids and I am the only guardian who takes care of them. I attached her diagnostic records as proof of SHAHAN’S cancer. I am affirming that I will return in a timely manner to live with my husband and said family members. I have substantial assets in Bangladesh and I have been receiving regular pensions from the Bangladesh Government as a retired employee. So, I emphasize to live in Bangladesh.

Moreover, I have a good attachment with relatives, friends, and other community members, I feel happy to live with them. I contribute to the community people by providing them with health education and other family mediation by utilizing the knowledge that I gained from different professional training during my career with the Ministry of Health and Family Planning of Bangladesh.

For the visit, I have a total of $20,010.48 as liquid money available to execute my travel expenses. I am giving undertaking herein that I will bear my travel, medical, and all other incidental expenses while I stay there.

 

[albloshi_sa]

1. You need to show as much ties as possible to home country.
2. You need to mention that this is FAMILY visit to spend quality time.
3. Do not mention anything related to WORK or SUPPORT or CARE.
4. Make your letter precise and in tabluar form, IRCC officer will not read the whole content of size of newspaper.

 

[Naturgrl]

Dear Sir/Madam,

I drafted the purpose of the visit and shared it here for your kind help: Could you please check it for me. We collected the doctor's note again but I am thinking of not attaching the doctor's note in this second application. Please give your comments on it. I am waiting for your reply.

The doctor has given this current note: "This is to certify that AFSANA AKTER had a fall resulted in Lumber Vertebral Fracture. Her mother lives in Bangladesh and wants to visit in Canada. I would appreciate if the mother’s application for a visit visa gets approved. The information is as follows:"

The doctor's previous note: "This is to certify that AFSANA AKTER has some chronic health condition and she needs help from family members. Her mother lives in Bangladesh and wants to come and help her. I would appreciate if the mother’s application for a visit visa gets approved. The information is as follows:"

RE : PURPOSE OF MY VISIT

I, ALIA BEGUM, date of birth: xxxxx, National ID No: xxxxx, Passport No: xxx, am currently residing at sorder bari, Sudharam, Sadar-3800, Bangladesh.

My younger daughter AFSANA AKTER, Permanent Resident of Canada, Permanent Resident Card no: xxxxxx, residing at 76 Pharmacy Avenue, Scarborough, ON, Canada.

REASON TO VISIT CANADA:

AFSANA AKTER got injured by falling on the stairs which resulted in a Lumber Vertebral Fracture. She was admitted to Michael Garron General Hospital at 825 Coxwell Avenue in East York, Toronto, Ontario on July 7, 2023, and stayed in the hospital until July 13, 2023. I attached the hospital admission and diagnostic reports herewith this application.

Her husband managed more time to take care of herself and recently she recovered physically but mentally distressed by the accident. At this moment, she needs a family connection for some quality time to improve her mental condition. As a mother, I should meet her. So, I am planning to visit them for two weeks from February 25, 2024, to March 12, 2024.

Last four years, my daughter AFSANA AKTER and my loving grandsons RATUL and FAHAD encouraged me to visit Canada but I could not manage time. I think it is time to see my daughter and my grandsons to make them a quality time for two weeks.

RETURN TO RETURN IN BANGLADESH:

I have family members in Bangladesh: my husband, my biological mother (90), and my other elder daughter SHAHNA AKTER who has been surviving with Breast Cancer in Bangladesh. She has two kids and I am the only guardian who takes care of them. I attached her diagnostic records as proof of SHAHAN’S cancer. I am affirming that I will return in a timely manner to live with my husband and said family members. I have substantial assets in Bangladesh and I have been receiving regular pensions from the Bangladesh Government as a retired employee. So, I emphasize to live in Bangladesh.

Moreover, I have a good attachment with relatives, friends, and other community members, I feel happy to live with them. I contribute to the community people by providing them with health education and other family mediation by utilizing the knowledge that I gained from different professional training during my career with the Ministry of Health and Family Planning of Bangladesh.

For the visit, I have a total of $20,010.48 as liquid money available to execute my travel expenses. I am giving undertaking herein that I will bear my travel, medical, and all other incidental expenses while I stay there.

So you never ordered GCMS notes? The letter talks about the accident with daughter needing care/help but then goes on to say she is only coming for quality time. It cannot be both. Include something of how her daughter and kids are being cared for while she is there. If kids are in school or daycare, include it. Include any support the daughter gets - cleaning, cooking - so that the two of them can have quality time. Or if a PSW is coming in during the day then include. What is quality time - can they go outside in the middle of winter? Can they sightsee? Has she improved physically? If so include that she has improved and can now do certain things (back to work, cook etc.) and is looking spend quality time with her mother. Mention a few things that they can do together - walks, concerts, movies

The biggest issue is this reads as though she is coming to care for her. IRCC will see that right away. They have access to past applications, letters and doctor’s notes. There needs to be an explanation of what quality time is. She is coming in the dead of winter so IRCC will know that they are not going anywhere.

 

[Copingwithlife]

Dear Sir/Madam,

I drafted the purpose of the visit and shared it here for your kind help: Could you please check it for me. We collected the doctor's note again but I am thinking of not attaching the doctor's note in this second application. Please give your comments on it. I am waiting for your reply.

The doctor has given this current note: "This is to certify that AFSANA AKTER had a fall resulted in Lumber Vertebral Fracture. Her mother lives in Bangladesh and wants to visit in Canada. I would appreciate if the mother’s application for a visit visa gets approved. The information is as follows:"

The doctor's previous note: "This is to certify that AFSANA AKTER has some chronic health condition and she needs help from family members. Her mother lives in Bangladesh and wants to come and help her. I would appreciate if the mother’s application for a visit visa gets approved. The information is as follows:"

RE : PURPOSE OF MY VISIT

I, ALIA BEGUM, date of birth: xxxxx, National ID No: xxxxx, Passport No: xxx, am currently residing at sorder bari, Sudharam, Sadar-3800, Bangladesh.

My younger daughter AFSANA AKTER, Permanent Resident of Canada, Permanent Resident Card no: xxxxxx, residing at 76 Pharmacy Avenue, Scarborough, ON, Canada.

REASON TO VISIT CANADA:

AFSANA AKTER got injured by falling on the stairs which resulted in a Lumber Vertebral Fracture. She was admitted to Michael Garron General Hospital at 825 Coxwell Avenue in East York, Toronto, Ontario on July 7, 2023, and stayed in the hospital until July 13, 2023. I attached the hospital admission and diagnostic reports herewith this application.

Her husband managed more time to take care of herself and recently she recovered physically but mentally distressed by the accident. At this moment, she needs a family connection for some quality time to improve her mental condition. As a mother, I should meet her. So, I am planning to visit them for two weeks from February 25, 2024, to March 12, 2024.

Last four years, my daughter AFSANA AKTER and my loving grandsons RATUL and FAHAD encouraged me to visit Canada but I could not manage time. I think it is time to see my daughter and my grandsons to make them a quality time for two weeks.

RETURN TO RETURN IN BANGLADESH:

I have family members in Bangladesh: my husband, my biological mother (90), and my other elder daughter SHAHNA AKTER who has been surviving with Breast Cancer in Bangladesh. She has two kids and I am the only guardian who takes care of them. I attached her diagnostic records as proof of SHAHAN’S cancer. I am affirming that I will return in a timely manner to live with my husband and said family members. I have substantial assets in Bangladesh and I have been receiving regular pensions from the Bangladesh Government as a retired employee. So, I emphasize to live in Bangladesh.

Moreover, I have a good attachment with relatives, friends, and other community members, I feel happy to live with them. I contribute to the community people by providing them with health education and other family mediation by utilizing the knowledge that I gained from different professional training during my career with the Ministry of Health and Family Planning of Bangladesh.

For the visit, I have a total of $20,010.48 as liquid money available to execute my travel expenses. I am giving undertaking herein that I will bear my travel, medical, and all other incidental expenses while I stay there.

This novel has to be whittled down . Remember KEY facts only .
Bullet points . The VO officer, who probably reviews many applicants will be zeroing in on key facts to make their decision. Take out the fluff . When I'm talking to someone in my current job I’m making notes with the key facts to arrive to my decision on an issue . Am I going to be lenient in my decision making or not ? The other stuff is fluff .
Focus on why they have to return . Quality time is relationship building activities. Not work related