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Protected Person PR application is considered Non Routine. What can be done?

Malcom_Beats

Full Member
Oct 21, 2023
20
1
Hello Everyone,

I would appreciate your feedback on my situation, my PR application just exceeded normal processing time (23 months) on 13/Oct/2023.
Here is the complete timeline:
  • we received your application on 12/Nov/2021
  • we started working on your application 8/Jun/2022
  • Eligibility Passed 15/Mar/2023
  • Invitation to Pre-Arrival Services 16/Mar/2023
I called IRCC, all steps were complete except security check (which started on June/2022)
I asked my MP to check, and he got back yesterday saying that my application is non-routine and normal processing time doesn't apply. What does that mean?

I searched a little bit on different forums here and I started to freak out, I thought I would share my experience and ask if anyone has faced something similar and what can be done about such cases? Can a lawyer help?
 

Captain911

Hero Member
Jan 31, 2023
301
93
Sometimes Ircc is doing funny. If they say that you passed eligibility why security check is still under progress? :( because they started security check proses after 3 months from eligibility passed which is really weird. Probably there is something wrong on your security process. If i was in the same situation i would talk to lawyer because sometimes Mp doesnt do anything. Good luck.
 

Malcom_Beats

Full Member
Oct 21, 2023
20
1
Sometimes Ircc is doing funny. If they say that you passed eligibility why security check is still under progress? :( because they started security check proses after 3 months from eligibility passed which is really weird. Probably there is something wrong on your security process. If i was in the same situation i would talk to lawyer because sometimes Mp doesnt do anything. Good luck.
Thank you for your response, I'm not sure I follow, how eligibility is related to security check being done? also, security check started in 2022 whereas eligibility was done in 2023.

Anyways, I'm looking for a good lawyer to check, maybe I'll take the mandamus route.
 

Me348

Full Member
Jul 29, 2022
31
0
Hello Everyone,

I would appreciate your feedback on my situation, my PR application just exceeded normal processing time (23 months) on 13/Oct/2023.
Here is the complete timeline:
  • we received your application on 12/Nov/2021
  • we started working on your application 8/Jun/2022
  • Eligibility Passed 15/Mar/2023
  • Invitation to Pre-Arrival Services 16/Mar/2023
I called IRCC, all steps were complete except security check (which started on June/2022)
I asked my MP to check, and he got back yesterday saying that my application is non-routine and normal processing time doesn't apply. What does that mean?

I searched a little bit on different forums here and I started to freak out, I thought I would share my experience and ask if anyone has faced something similar and what can be done about such cases? Can a lawyer help?
How do u know they are checking security check
 

Me348

Full Member
Jul 29, 2022
31
0
Hello Everyone,

I would appreciate your feedback on my situation, my PR application just exceeded normal processing time (23 months) on 13/Oct/2023.
Here is the complete timeline:
  • we received your application on 12/Nov/2021
  • we started working on your application 8/Jun/2022
  • Eligibility Passed 15/Mar/2023
  • Invitation to Pre-Arrival Services 16/Mar/2023
I called IRCC, all steps were complete except security check (which started on June/2022)
I asked my MP to check, and he got back yesterday saying that my application is non-routine and normal processing time doesn't apply. What does that mean?

I searched a little bit on different forums here and I started to freak out, I thought I would share my experience and ask if anyone has faced something similar and what can be done about such cases? Can a lawyer help?
We are in the same suitation.but our lawyer dont say anything.we got email pre arrival service but our work permit is going to expire they give us 2 month extension but not issuing work permit
 

canuck78

VIP Member
Jun 18, 2017
55,291
13,428
Hello Everyone,

I would appreciate your feedback on my situation, my PR application just exceeded normal processing time (23 months) on 13/Oct/2023.
Here is the complete timeline:
  • we received your application on 12/Nov/2021
  • we started working on your application 8/Jun/2022
  • Eligibility Passed 15/Mar/2023
  • Invitation to Pre-Arrival Services 16/Mar/2023
I called IRCC, all steps were complete except security check (which started on June/2022)
I asked my MP to check, and he got back yesterday saying that my application is non-routine and normal processing time doesn't apply. What does that mean?

I searched a little bit on different forums here and I started to freak out, I thought I would share my experience and ask if anyone has faced something similar and what can be done about such cases? Can a lawyer help?
Posted processing times are just estimated averages and does not guarantee processing by that point. If your processing takes another year for example then your lawyer or MP can enquire what is going on. Many go past the posted processing times and all you can do is wait. Processing times also vary based on the number of people applying so could be longer at the moment. Very strange that you have received pre-arrival services if security hasn’t been completed. Would order GCMS notes to see if you actually received pre-arrival services and whether your security screening has been completed.

Have any of your family members (especially spouse) been part of the police or army? Have you used your home country passport or travelled to your home country since claiming asylum?
 

Malcom_Beats

Full Member
Oct 21, 2023
20
1
Posted processing times are just estimated averages and does not guarantee processing by that point. If your processing takes another year for example then your lawyer or MP can enquire what is going on. Many go past the posted processing times and all you can do is wait. Processing times also vary based on the number of people applying so could be longer at the moment. Very strange that you have received pre-arrival services if security hasn’t been completed. Would order GCMS notes to see if you actually received pre-arrival services and whether your security screening has been completed.

Have any of your family members (especially spouse) been part of the police or army? Have you used your home country passport or travelled to your home country since claiming asylum?
Appreciate your feedback, yeah I understand that processing times vary and it's not a guarantee, however, my situation is different, it's not just a case past processing time but it is considered non-routine so just waiting might not be the best course of action.

The answer to your questions is No meaning I don't have a spouse nor did I travel to home country or used the their passport.

If I may ask, it seems the members here have some idea of which steps should come first, for example when you mentioned pre-arrival services should come after security check, is there a link you can share to understand the expected order?

Also, the pre-arrival services letter doesn't make any sense as I'm already inside Canada! I'm not sure why it is significant.
 

Malcom_Beats

Full Member
Oct 21, 2023
20
1
We are in the same suitation.but our lawyer dont say anything.we got email pre arrival service but our work permit is going to expire they give us 2 month extension but not issuing work permit
Your work permit have nothing to do with your PR application, I received 2 years when I renewed it last year.
Finally, you can check your application status by calling the IRCC
 

Simba112

VIP Member
Mar 25, 2021
4,478
1,662
Appreciate your feedback, yeah I understand that processing times vary and it's not a guarantee, however, my situation is different, it's not just a case past processing time but it is considered non-routine so just waiting might not be the best course of action.

The answer to your questions is No meaning I don't have a spouse nor did I travel to home country or used the their passport.

If I may ask, it seems the members here have some idea of which steps should come first, for example when you mentioned pre-arrival services should come after security check, is there a link you can share to understand the expected order?

Also, the pre-arrival services letter doesn't make any sense as I'm already inside Canada! I'm not sure why it is significant.
Did you by mistake tick "yes" on any arrest/criminal charges questionnaire?
 

skyisthelimitbd

Star Member
Dec 7, 2020
179
56
GCMS is not a authentic service, at least in my case.On march 2023 GCMS notes showed, that my security hasnt been started. Eligibility as well. When i got ECOPR on July 2023, my gckey showed that i passed security on feb 2022.
I guess as you already got Pre arrival services, that certainly means you passed security and you are at the edge of eligibility pass.
Wait and wait, thats only what you can do.
Eligibility is the most important process and complex one. Only the officer in charge of your file only knows the issue.
 

canuck78

VIP Member
Jun 18, 2017
55,291
13,428
Appreciate your feedback, yeah I understand that processing times vary and it's not a guarantee, however, my situation is different, it's not just a case past processing time but it is considered non-routine so just waiting might not be the best course of action.

The answer to your questions is No meaning I don't have a spouse nor did I travel to home country or used the their passport.

If I may ask, it seems the members here have some idea of which steps should come first, for example when you mentioned pre-arrival services should come after security check, is there a link you can share to understand the expected order?

Also, the pre-arrival services letter doesn't make any sense as I'm already inside Canada! I'm not sure why it is significant.
Pre-arrival services doesn’t require you to be in Canada and is also likely just part of a generic checklist. It is basically the step before passport request and then landing. The pre-arrival services may have been checked off by accident and you are waiting for your security check. General processing for applications: submit application, AOR, biometrics, medical, security and criminality checks, decisions made. Can include other steps depending on the type of application
 

Protected person

Star Member
Feb 14, 2022
74
7
Hello Everyone,

I would appreciate your feedback on my situation, my PR application just exceeded normal processing time (23 months) on 13/Oct/2023.
Here is the complete timeline:
  • we received your application on 12/Nov/2021
  • we started working on your application 8/Jun/2022
  • Eligibility Passed 15/Mar/2023
  • Invitation to Pre-Arrival Services 16/Mar/2023
I called IRCC, all steps were complete except security check (which started on June/2022)
I asked my MP to check, and he got back yesterday saying that my application is non-routine and normal processing time doesn't apply. What does that mean?

I searched a little bit on different forums here and I started to freak out, I thought I would share my experience and ask if anyone has faced something similar and what can be done about such cases? Can a lawyer help?
what is ur case procesing center
 

sam120

Hero Member
Mar 26, 2019
219
27
AOR May 15th my eligibility is under Review required for not able to verify Canadian employer online presence - i gave all T4, pay stubs too.

before Yesterday my Security was not started but yesterday they passed my Security and criminality but still eligibility is under review required per IRCC agent so I am confuse How come they passed security before passing eligibility???

is that something happens as trend is usually eligibility gets completed and then security starts in my case its opposite.

or it might be possible agent wont see status change till senior officer finalizes my application that when eligibility gets changed to passed?
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,652
21,985
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
AOR May 15th my eligibility is under Review required for not able to verify Canadian employer online presence - i gave all T4, pay stubs too.

before Yesterday my Security was not started but yesterday they passed my Security and criminality but still eligibility is under review required per IRCC agent so I am confuse How come they passed security before passing eligibility???

is that something happens as trend is usually eligibility gets completed and then security starts in my case its opposite.

or it might be possible agent wont see status change till senior officer finalizes my application that when eligibility gets changed to passed?
This is for a refugee application? That doesn't make sense.
 

Simba112

VIP Member
Mar 25, 2021
4,478
1,662
AOR May 15th my eligibility is under Review required for not able to verify Canadian employer online presence - i gave all T4, pay stubs too.

before Yesterday my Security was not started but yesterday they passed my Security and criminality but still eligibility is under review required per IRCC agent so I am confuse How come they passed security before passing eligibility???

is that something happens as trend is usually eligibility gets completed and then security starts in my case its opposite.

or it might be possible agent wont see status change till senior officer finalizes my application that when eligibility gets changed to passed?
Until Processing officer mark "Eligibility Complete", it will remain in review but wont stop other subsequent actions such as Security, BGC, Criminality or Medical to be marked as "Complete". I have seen cases, where eligibility remain open and closed on the last final approval. So it is normal...