Not sure this have anything to do with housing situation if PGP live with children / sponsors or separately in a suite of sponsor's home.. The sponsor wouldn't share the home with strangers otherwise.
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Family Sponsorship (PGP) - E-petition to the House of Commons - 2023
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According to this logic of yours,Canada should not allow bringing non Canadian spouses/common-law partners/kids from a different country because they haven't contributed to the economy yet/haven't paid any taxes yet?
Can you name one that has adopted the approach she is asking to have adopted by Canada?-in states,you can bring your parents right after becoming a green card holder,two of my friends moved to the states a few years ago and they were able to bring their parents there.
How about your country of origin?-my country of origin would never adopt a policy like this which is unfair and will cause suffering to common people,people can always bring their parents with them there...
There are so many reasons behind the current healthcare and housing crisis,but from your and some other peoples' words, it sounds like you think our parents immigration is only to blame for this current crisis
I am not here to argue with anyone,but I believe as a taxpaying law abiding Canadian citizen,Its my basic human right to keep my window mother with me....
I wondered if he included those Canadian citizen (such as Canadian born but raised in another country and Canadian citizen by descent) which may not contributed to the economy / haven't paid any taxes.
Me, on the other hand, is here to argue with those who blame PGP with current housing crises. PGP can live with their sponsor(s) or supervisa host.
And here no one is interested to hear your grandparents story,you can keep it with you, probably your parents didn't/do not care for your grandparents but we do care for our parents....
that’s true the immigrants’ spouse or kids didn’t contribute in Canada yet, but if you use some logic, you will assume that most younger adults will start to work and pay income taxes. The children will grow up and enter the work force and pay taxes.
There’s reasons why Canada immigration prioritize spouse and dependent immigrations.
A good immigration system strikes a balance between reuniting families and help the country grow economically.
Accepting a large amount of elderly immigrants not only puts extra burden on the healthcare, they will not positively contribute to Canada society as much as a younger immigrant will. It might sound harsh but that are the facts.
If you are not happy with the current system, you can push harder for the government to change it or reunite with your mother in another country.
As a Canadian tax paying citizen I also have the right to get health care in a timely matter and not wait years to see specialist.
Also in the US their health care and social programs are different than ours so of course they don’t mind taking more older immigrants.
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But the children might not enter the work force and pay taxes in Canada when they are about start to work.
They could work or not work, but science is on their side and younger immigrants/people have longer time to work and pay taxes as they live longer in general.
You can’t argue against science where older people gets old and have health issues and will not be able to work and pay taxes.
A child can choose to work and pay taxes for at least 50 years when they grow up (they can certainly work less if they can and choose to)
But as an older person( let’s say 50 years old), you can’t tell me that they can also work 50 more years?
But still the children when they became young adults might not be working or living or paying taxes in Canada.
Also, who says an old folk must work in order to earn income? You forgot investments, pensions and royalty!
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Not sure why I’m repeating myself.
Wouldn’t you agree young children have the ability to work longer and pay income taxes longer than older people?
If yes, then children have higher chance of contributing and paying more income tax compared to older people during their time in Canada.
If the young adults aren’t living in Canada, then they aren’t using Canadian funded health care and other social programs, what’s the issue with that? They aren’t putting a burden on the system since they aren’t using it.
The issue being mentioned is that older immigrants that come and live in Canada and use Canadian social system and contribute little back.
Sure, older people can earn money too, but with everything being equal…younger people earn money LONGER.
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The young adults might also be living in Canada but just not making any income. Be it studying in college or something else. There's no issue with that. Just they are still using provincial program.
Also, who says an old folk must work in order to earn income? You forgot investments, pensions and royalty!
Sure, older people can earn money too, but with everything being equal…younger people earn money LONGER.
That's both a very large 'if' that's patently not true for all PGP - and I daresay silly to believe that any household with two more people won't want / need more space (or got a place with more space to start with for that reason). I've a good friend in this case with a laneway apartment that would probably go for ~$2000 monthly if the mother wasn't living in it.
On housing demand, it's a pretty simple formula - all things equal, more people = more demand for housing.
Now it's perfectly reasonable to believe the PGP doesn't have much effect overall - the number of people is small compared to other immigration programs and immigration overall. (Personally I think the number of intl students is one of the most obvious as it's grown so rapidly in last 5-10 years.)
But in context where housing shortages seem to be everywhere, and govt has other pressures / advocates for those immigraiton programs (specifically workers and students), it's another factor why govt may look skeptically upon the PGP program.
And no one is interested to hear about your "windowed mother". You took off, leaving her, and knowing the rules. Now you are whining and behaving like a petulant child because Canada won't change its rules for you. If you can't get out from behind your mother's apron, go back to her if she is as important as you say. Grow up.
And nonsense to say my parents did not care for their parents. One of the more inane and insulting comments offered up here for a long time. I guess you have no regard for your mother. You left her.
That is so true. And, all over the world, people migrate for economic and other reasons, not wanting or expecting to pack parents and a host of family members with them.
Many, many in Canada, U.S. and elsewhere, regularly move from one side of a very large country to another. They have their lives, their parents have theirs. They are independent, as is the norm in western culture. They don't need or want to live in multi-generation households. It does not mean that family members who do not live in close proximity do not care for their relatives.
I have regard for my mother which is why I am always exploring options to bring her here permanently, and you said in your comments that your parents left your grandparents knowing the fact that they wouldn't be able to reunite again and they accepted it,this statement of your shows how much they care for them, anyways like I said before I am not here to argue with anyone,and if you are so anti-immigrant what are you doing in an immigration forum?go get a life somewhere else....