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vs35

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Applied for a spousal TRV on July 4, only background check is in progress. No other updates so far.

received a pre arrival letter for our PR application in June.

hoping for the best! Good luck everyone
 
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Mgillanders

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What does that phase mean? I am unable to ascribe any meaning to it. I asked you if RCMP officers are notaries and/or commissioners for taking oaths and if they are able (and willing) to swear affidavits for immigration purposes. Your response seems like a non-response.

Also, I asked you, if the application is denied, do you think a a judge on JR will set aside the decision to deny because the IRCC was not persuaded by the affidavit. Again, of course, I have not tried a JR application in that circumstance or otherwise and, until I have, it does not lie in my mouth to express any view about the prospects of success on JR.

I have returned to edit this post because I realize that our pointless debate has sucked up a lot of bandwidth here and really adds nothing to what started out as a useful thread. We have not contributed anything of value and have, instead, derogated from its utility. Sure, there was a point and counterpoint to be made, but it should have been much more confined. I regret my part in it. I'll let you fire the last salvo and be declared the winner. I'll go to my room and get back to whining.

Cheers.
Ever heard of google try getting your answers from their https://www.fct-cf.gc.ca/en/pages/court-files-and-decisions Is there anyone who can administer oaths without being appointed? All of the following persons are able to administer oaths under the Act without formal appointment as a Commissioner of Oaths by the Governor in Council: • lawyers • Canadian Armed Forces commissioned officers • RCMP commissioned officers or head of a detachment in the Province • chief of a municipal police force • licenced funeral directors • MLAs i hope this helps you and good luck buddy it was quite refreshing
 

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Ever heard of google try getting your answers from their https://www.fct-cf.gc.ca/en/pages/court-files-and-decisions Is there anyone who can administer oaths without being appointed? All of the following persons are able to administer oaths under the Act without formal appointment as a Commissioner of Oaths by the Governor in Council: • lawyers • Canadian Armed Forces commissioned officers • RCMP commissioned officers or head of a detachment in the Province • chief of a municipal police force • licenced funeral directors • MLAs i hope this helps you and good luck buddy it was quite refreshing
You don’t need an affidavit to make a letter of invitation. In the letter of invitation, as a sponsor you are basically saying that you will shoulder all, as in all, the expenses and accomodation of the visitor.

In this letter too, as a sponsor you are the one writing in good faith that the visitor will return in the allotted time that was given if ever trv is approved.

It is okay to get an affidavit, if that is what you want. But with or without it, IRCC will not approved your application based on that one. They are more concerned on your eligibility and background check. Hence, it is better if you already have an on going(at least AOR, SA, Medical and Biometrics) PR application.
 
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Mgillanders

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You don’t need an affidavit to make a letter of invitation. In the letter of invitation, as a sponsor you are basically saying that you will shoulder all, as in all, the expenses and accomodation of the visitor.

In this letter too, as a sponsor you are the one writing in good faith that the visitor will return in the allotted time that was given if ever trv is approved.

It is okay to get an affidavit, if that is what you want. But with or without it, IRCC will not approved your application based on that one. They are more concerned on your eligibility and background check. Hence, it is better if you already have an on going(at least AOR, SA, Medical and Biometrics) PR application.
Cheers just one is legal binding and the other is in good faith and with the amount of rejection of over 75% for spousal trvs why not I say nowadays.
 

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Cheers just one is legal binding and the other is in good faith and with the amount of rejection of over 75% for spousal trvs why not I say nowadays.
Again, I don’t think IRCC care about your affidavit from RCMP. You can submit one though, if it will make you feel better for your application. Cheers!
 

Mgillanders

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Again, I don’t think IRCC care about your affidavit from RCMP. You can submit one though, if it will make you feel better for your application. Cheers!
Your opinions duly noted with a grain of salt. So you never told us what grand ideas I inspired your mind to conjure up. Could you enlighten us with your imagination.
 

Mgillanders

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Hope this is helpful for the open minded individuals out there https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fc-cf/decisions/en/item/62370/index.do?q=affidavit+leave+trv
Ms. Agidi was seeking a TRV in order to visit her friend in Canada. Her application was amply supported by the following:
a. An affidavit attesting to the invitation duly sworn by her friend, Rita Ezeakonobi with certified copies of her Canadian passport and Drivers’ Licence attached thereto;
 

Person001

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What's difficult is that this is a many to many problem. Many different individual circumstances mapped to many different visa officers.
Because of this, it's almost impossible to brute force and discover what is even empirically able to improve odds of success.

Each individual needs to tailor their application to their individual circumstances and then roll the dice on the visa officer they get.
Should those individual circumstances merit an affidavit, is at the discretion of the individual. The affidavit is a data point, like a marriage certificate, criminality, country of origin, bank statement, invitation letter, photos, money transfers, travel history, etc. The weight assigned to each point can fall between -1 and 1 and the weight assigned will be at the discretion of the visa officers. Individuals can ask about and post what worked for them, but those should only serve as guidelines and should be adapted to individual circumstances. As it is such a multivariate problem, no general solution can be found and it's difficult to pick out general patterns because generally only 1 set of inputs can be tested per individual against 1 visa officer.

There are no right or wrong answers, and everyone's circumstances and experiences, are going to be different, and should be respected. This forum, is just input data. It is up to the individual to combine their circumstances, intuition, experiences, etc and decide which data points they subjectively believe could potentially yield them the best outcome, but no one can be right or wrong because it's too complex of a problem to predict outcomes with any sort of certainty as we do not know the weight matrix on each data point that will be applied by some assigned visa officer.
 
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Mgillanders

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What's difficult is that this is a many to many problem. Many different individual circumstances mapped to many different visa officers.
Because of this, it's almost impossible to brute force and discover what is even empirically able to improve odds of success.

Each individual needs to tailor their application to their individual circumstances and then roll the dice on the visa officer they get.
Should those individual circumstances merit an affidavit, is at the discretion of the individual. The affidavit is a data point, like a marriage certificate, criminality, country of origin, bank statement, invitation letter, photos, money transfers, travel history, etc. The weight assigned to each point can fall between -1 and 1 and the weight assigned will be at the discretion of the visa officers. Individuals can ask about and post what worked for them, but those should only serve as guidelines and should be adapted to individual circumstances. As it is such a multivariate problem, no general solution can be found and it's difficult to pick out general patterns because generally only 1 set of inputs can be tested per individual against 1 visa officer.

There are no right or wrong answers, and everyone's circumstances and experiences, are going to be different, and should be respected. This forum, is just input data. It is up to the individual to combine their circumstances, intuition, experiences, etc and decide which data points they subjectively believe could potentially yield them the best outcome, but no one can be right or wrong because it's too complex of a problem to predict outcomes with any sort of certainty as we do not know the weight matrix on each data point that will be applied by some assigned visa officer.
Yes so true and one of the best resources is to see what is going on in the federal courts https://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fc-cf/decisions/en/item/62370/index.do?q=affidavit+leave+trv
 

Mgillanders

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Ok. It is just that the link you provided was not really in favour of the applicant. The decision was that she could reapply if she wanted, and that another officer would review the file. Didn’t mean she would be approved.
Did you read at the bottom page 23 of page 23 This application is allowed and the decision of an officer dated August 10, 2012, is quashed; Now there are newer ones
 

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Did you read at the bottom page 23 of page 23 This application is allowed and the decision of an officer dated August 10, 2012, is quashed; Now there are newer ones
I did. #1 quashes the refusal (doesn’t approve the TRV) but #2 then say she can reapply with new or existing supporting documentation with another officer, if she chooses. .