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Canadian2023

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What to do about missing middle name in citizenship certificate? It seems COPR/PR also had the same issue and never noticed!!!! First name/Last name on documents. Original passport has first/middle/last. Please advise.
 
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Go according to your passport.
Thanks for your reply. But it's not the same as in passport. Certificate has only first and last name (same as in PR card and COPR). I am worried this was an error that was never corrected and should have been the same as passport as you said. What to do now?
 
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Thanks for your reply. But it's not the same as in passport. Certificate has only first and last name (same as in PR card and COPR). I am worried this was an error that was never corrected and should have been the same as passport as you said. What to do now?
So then go according to recent documents. If you want you can do name change process after getting citizenship. Check that with your province.
 

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So then go according to recent documents. If you want you can do name change process after getting citizenship. Check that with your province.
Ok, thank you. I wanted to see if this could be corrected without name change, but I guess that might be the only way to correct this. I guess not a lot of people with such experience - who would be so oblivious to the absence of their middle name in their documents?!! Again, thank you for your guidance.
 

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Ok, thank you. I wanted to see if this could be corrected without name change, but I guess that might be the only way to correct this. I guess not a lot of people with such experience - who would be so oblivious to the absence of their middle name in their documents?!! Again, thank you for your guidance.
What us your country of origin?

In the Philippines, for example, the middle name is the mother's maiden last name. Not exactly the middle name in the Canadian context which is more of a second name. So, technically, somebody coming from the Philippines does not have a middle name under the Canadian definition. But the PH passport shows this middle name in the bio page (but not in the machine readable portion of the passport).
 
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What us your country of origin?

In the Philippines, for example, the middle name is the mother's maiden last name. Not exactly the middle name in the Canadian context which is more of a second name. So, technically, somebody coming from the Philippines does not have a middle name under the Canadian definition. But the PH passport shows this middle name in the bio page (but not in the machine readable portion of the passport).
Thanks, I have father's first name as middle name (but only used in official documents such as my passport). Perhaps it was an error in transferring passport info to immigration documents (clerical error?) or I may have provided first name/last name in a form early in the process where I should have included the middle (i.e., given name that should have included middle name). I pretty much use first name/last name everyday and at work, so it took me ages to notice the middle name exclusion. Sigh!
 
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Does anyone know if this should be resolved through submitting an amendment with IRCC (IMM 1436) or is it one that requires legal name change?! Would appreciate your thoughts or suggestions on the right course of action. Thanks.
 

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...who would be so oblivious to the absence of their middle name in their documents?!! Again, thank you for your guidance.
I pretty much use first name/last name everyday and at work, so it took me ages to notice the middle name exclusion. Sigh!
I don't know, who could be so 'oblivious' and not notice this right away? )))

Thanks, I have father's first name as middle name (but only used in official documents such as my passport). Perhaps it was an error in transferring passport info to immigration documents (clerical error?) or I may have provided first name/last name in a form early in the process where I should have included the middle (i.e., given name that should have included middle name).
Any one of these could have happened. I know that, for example, Russian patronymics (made from father's name) are increasingly not included in the English portion of Russian passports. And IRCC tends to drop them as a result. Or if you left it out / it was not on other documents, could have happened.

Thing to keep in mind: in Canadian practice, a middle name is just an additional given name. Lots of cultures within Canada have specific practices, and where not, lots of families just have their own traditions (possibly originally from a cultural practice).

So governments and businesses here will basically only keep including names that the individual uses consistently - all of the time - with a bias to dropping middle names for most purposes.

Don't specify you want it on your driver's license (because you just write first and last)? Dropped.

Does anyone know if this should be resolved through submitting an amendment with IRCC (IMM 1436) or is it one that requires legal name change?! Would appreciate your thoughts or suggestions on the right course of action. Thanks.
There's another thread here on the same topic with a lot of discussion, sometime in the last two weeks. Short form: it's up to you what you want to do. If you start including it on all documents, you probably won't need a legal name change for most purposes. But if you want it to be perfect everywhere, you'll have to be consistent AND may need to apply for name change.

I don't see any harm in attempting to use the form you refer to, but can't guarantee it will work. They'll probably decide whether or not to honour it based on original documents and what you provided on other forms.

That said: again, under Canadian law, your name is basically what you use all the time. People who have four or five middle names usually won't have them on any documents except the one on their birth certificate - it doesn't mean those names don't exist, they're just not used day to day. And it's not at all uncommon for people to use one name for purely social or business purposes, and another for most others (eg maiden vs married). Many use shortened or folk versions for day to day and social but a longer (somewhat more formal) legal name for eg contracts, banks, business cards, etc. A matter of taste.

If you think your 'name' is only what's on your passport, well, ok, then change that. Otherwise it doesn't matter for most purposes - you can use/include your middle name when you like and leave it out when you think not appropriate. Most people won't care. Most businesses and a surprising number of government agencies will be accommodating to some degree. IRCC is one of the more strict about the matter - but the truth is, you won't interact with IRCC all that much.

My general advice - if you've already landed, just go with what works, and try to use the version of your name you would like to use depending on the context. Note where you have issues and/or where you can't use the one you want - and particuarly whether it's something important or just a minor inconvenience. After a while, decide whether you still feel the need to change it legally based on the actual problems you face.
 
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IRCC is one of the more strict about the matter - but the truth is, you won't interact with IRCC all that much.
Thought of an example of this: one acquaintance has a name that's been transliterated from another language/alphabet (Russian), and IRCC is picky about this transliteration when absolutely no other business or even government cares at all.

I'm talking about given names that exist in English in a straightforward form, but when transliterated acc to the official transliteration rules (that is, on Russian passport), come out with minor differences - k instead of c, a double vowel where just one in English. This person has another passport with the normal English spelling, too. \

Nope, IRCC wants to stick with that spelling, won't take evidence of the other passport. Parents have decided to leave it be for now - because absolutely no-one ever cares or thinks that difference of a letter or two is anything more than cosmetic.

[It's possible of course that IRCC could be convinced if the parents were willing to spend the time to argue the point but again - since so inconsequential they just decided to ignore for now.]
 

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My general advice - if you've already landed, just go with what works, and try to use the version of your name you would like to use depending on the context. Note where you have issues and/or where you can't use the one you want - and particuarly whether it's something important or just a minor inconvenience. After a while, decide whether you still feel the need to change it legally based on the actual problems you face.
OMG, thank you so much for taking the time to give such detailed response. This is so helpful, gives me some direction, and much appreciated!! Just to clarify, not only have I already landed, it is actually when I received my citizenship certificate that I noticed the exclusion (I was advised to check if it's the same way on my COPR/PR card and of course it was the same there). Obviously, the exclusion has not created any problems whatsoever in the few years I have been here (because it is clear now that every document also has the exclusion). Because of this consistency across documents (and by documents I mean DL, health card, etc.). At this point, only educational certificates and foreign passport have the middle name, and of course that was never an issue. Since the foreign passport will be less relevant now, only educational certificates could create potential issues in the future. I am very surprised that no one brought up this issue during my travels though (given the middle is on the foreign passport, but not on PR card). I guess because it is clear that it's same name and just with and without middle?! I don't know.

In any case, your suggestions make perfect sense. If the amendment is possible, even if it was my error, then I will take that route. If not, I will see if the legal name change would be needed based on the circumstances and to avoid inconsistencies. It may be the more "official" way to correct this regardless of who made the error.

Thanks again!
 
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Since the foreign passport will be less relevant now, only educational certificates could create potential issues in the future. I am very surprised that no one brought up this issue during my travels though (given the middle is on the foreign passport, but not on PR card). I guess because it is clear that it's same name and just with and without middle?! I don't know.
It's clear (practice in many cases is to not include additional given names incl middle names) and there is other corroborating info - date of birth, country of origin, city of birth usually, etc.

In any case, your suggestions make perfect sense. If the amendment is possible, even if it was my error, then I will take that route. If not, I will see if the legal name change would be needed based on the circumstances and to avoid inconsistencies. It may be the more "official" way to correct this regardless of who made the error.
I doubt they'd accept an amendment after so long. I'd pretty much accept that if you want official docs (eg passport and citizenshp) to reflect, you're going to have to do the legal change of name.

But otherwise you could probably just begin using your middle name for everything else, nobody else will care.
 
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What to do about missing middle name in citizenship certificate? It seems COPR/PR also had the same issue and never noticed!!!! First name/Last name on documents. Original passport has first/middle/last. Please advise.
Hello, I had the same situation. My PR card, my Canadian Citizenship Certificate and PP are first name and last name displayed only. But I know the forms I filled in any of these applications I provided my mother’s surname as the middle name. But my drivers licence has first name, middle name(mother’s maiden name) and last name ( they specifically asked to provide middle name when I applied DL) And I been asking around if I can correct this to add the mother’s maiden name written next to the given name so my Canadian PP will match the drivers licence. I’m just worried for the confusion when it comes to travel internationally.
Just wondering what happens to yours now? How did you fix it?
Thanks
 
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