10 years in Canada without valid PR card

[caloca]

Hello everyone, I have lived in Canada for 15 years and I have not had a valid PR card for 10 years. I want to travel outside of Canada but I don't know if when I request a new card they will reproach me for not renewing my card before.

I fulfill the residence obligation without problem.

Do you think you IRCC can expel me from the country for having lived here for so many years without a valid pr card?

 

[Buletruck]

No requirement to have a valid PR card in Canada. You'll be fine.

 

[caloca]

@canuck78
@depali_nn

Could you please give me your opinion?

 

[island755]

Hello everyone, I have lived in Canada for 15 years and I have not had a valid PR card for 10 years. I want to travel outside of Canada but I don't know if when I request a new card they will reproach me for not renewing my card before.

I fulfill the residence obligation without problem.

Do you think you IRCC can expel me from the country for having lived here for so many years without a valid pr card?

Understand PR Status - Canada.ca
Losing your permanent resident status
You don’t lose your permanent resident status when your PR card expires. You can only lose your status if you go through an official process.
You can lose your permanent resident status if:

• an adjudicator determines you are no longer a permanent resident after an inquiry or PRTD appeal;
• you voluntarily renounce your permanent resident status;
• a removal order is made against you and comes into force; or
• you become a Canadian citizen.

Even if you don't meet the residency obligation, you are still a PR until an official decision is made on your status.
Learn how to avoid travel delays if you are not sure of your status.

 

[Eusufzai]

Hello everyone, I have lived in Canada for 15 years and I have not had a valid PR card for 10 years. I want to travel outside of Canada but I don't know if when I request a new card they will reproach me for not renewing my card before.

I fulfill the residence obligation without problem.

Do you think you IRCC can expel me from the country for having lived here for so many years without a valid pr card?

Hi Caloca,

Greetings!! I just want to know, whether you entered in Canada without the validity of PR Card first time at the port of entry? Did you meet the residency obligations at the first entry to Canada? I have just one year left in my PR Card and I am afraid whether I will be reported at the port of entry in Canada.

Your response is appreciated.

Eusufzai

 

[canuck78]

Hello everyone, I have lived in Canada for 15 years and I have not had a valid PR card for 10 years. I want to travel outside of Canada but I don't know if when I request a new card they will reproach me for not renewing my card before.

I fulfill the residence obligation without problem.

Do you think you IRCC can expel me from the country for having lived here for so many years without a valid pr card?

No issue as long as you’ve been living in Canada.

 

[caloca]

Hi Caloca,

Greetings!! I just want to know, whether you entered in Canada without the validity of PR Card first time at the port of entry? Did you meet the residency obligations at the first entry to Canada? I have just one year left in my PR Card and I am afraid whether I will be reported at the port of entry in Canada.

Your response is appreciated.

Eusufzai

Hello, I have always lived in Canada, I have not really traveled. I am inside Canada and I am going to renew my card due to travel plans that I have. since I got my PR status I have lived here, so I comply with it the RO.

 

[rehanacca]

Hello, I have always lived in Canada, I have not really traveled. I am inside Canada and I am going to renew my card due to travel plans that I have. since I got my PR status I have lived here, so I comply with it the RO.

You are in no trouble at all as you have been living here all time. However, you must present a PR Card or a PR Travel document when you return to Canada. Otherwise they won't let you enter so i'd suggest renew it before you travel.

 

[steaky]

You are in no trouble at all as you have been living here all time. However, you must present a PR Card or a PR Travel document when you return to Canada. Otherwise they won't let you enter so i'd suggest renew it before you travel.

Neither are needed if you pass through a Canadian land border. They will let you enter even with your provincial driver license.

 

[Ponga]

Neither are needed if you pass through a Canadian land border. They will let you enter even with your provincial driver license.

Really?

https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/entering-canada
Permanent residents

Permanent residents (immigrants living in Canada who are not yet Canadian citizens) need a valid permanent resident card to return to Canada. Check the expiry date on your card.


Note that a Certificate of Canadian Citizenship is not a travel document. See Canadian Citizenship for further details.
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But even that is not true for all PRs. For example a U.S. passport holder does NOT need to have a valid PR Card to `return' to Canada, nor do they need one to `re-enter' Canada (CBSA inspection), BUT will undoubtedly be questioned by CBSA as to why they do not have one.

This whole `needed to return to Canada' is because commercial carriers need to see the card (unless a U.S. passport holder).

 

[armoured]

Really?

https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/entering-canada
Permanent residents

Permanent residents (immigrants living in Canada who are not yet Canadian citizens) need a valid permanent resident card to return to Canada. Check the expiry date on your card.


Note that a Certificate of Canadian Citizenship is not a travel document. See Canadian Citizenship for further details.

Please, how many times must we revisit exaclty the same topic?

Yes, government recommends and says in pretty strong language that PRs should travel with a PR card.

They will never, ever suggest it is a good idea to travel without one.

But they also cannot deny that a PR who makes it to a land border (i.e. not travelling by commercial carrier) will not be denied entry if they can show they are a PR. (Citizens too but different issue obviously). An expired PR card is sufficient to do so. So is almost any valid ID that matches properly the name DOB etc that they have on file. They must let a PR enter - the only difficulty can be demonstrating that they are that PR in their files. (Caveat for if all computers are down).

They can still make it unpleasant (secondary, wait a few hours, mild haranguing for travelling without proper id, etc) IF they want to.

Let's please not go over this again. This is a settled matter. IMO.

 

[Ponga]

Please, how many times must we revisit exaclty the same topic?

Yes, government recommends and says in pretty strong language that PRs should travel with a PR card.

They will never, ever suggest it is a good idea to travel without one.

But they also cannot deny that a PR who makes it to a land border (i.e. not travelling by commercial carrier) will not be denied entry if they can show they are a PR. (Citizens too but different issue obviously). An expired PR card is sufficient to do so. So is almost any valid ID that matches properly the name DOB etc that they have on file. They must let a PR enter - the only difficulty can be demonstrating that they are that PR in their files. (Caveat for if all computers are down).

They can still make it unpleasant (secondary, wait a few hours, mild haranguing for travelling without proper id, etc) IF they want to.

Let's please not go over this again. This is a settled matter. IMO.

Was merely replying to the previous post, showing that there is NOTHING indicating that a DL is acceptable.

And is anything in these forums ever really a settled matter? LOL!

 

[steaky]

Was merely replying to the previous post, showing that there is NOTHING indicating that a DL is acceptable.

And is anything in these forums ever really a settled matter? LOL!

But really this one is settled (for now at least). LOL!

 

[Ponga]

But really this one is settled (for now at least). LOL!

It would be, if you provided the source for this:

Neither are needed if you pass through a Canadian land border. They will let you enter even with your provincial driver license.

 

[steaky]

It would be, if you provided the source for this:

Whatever you say, I considered it's a settled matter.