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[dankboi]

There you go. Firm answer.

We won't risk the housing market in any way, plus we can't accomodate more than that per year. Houses in Quebec cost almost half of that than in the rest of Canada, sure wages are lower as well, but not by very much.

for real, it's better not to go to QC. sucks btw. this province should've been a separate country. i went there last weekend. total failure it is. had a 4 day trip and it included QC-Montreal. never gonna visit that place again, but connecting roads to eastern side of Canada via QC.

 

[GandiBaat]

I though one was not allowed to establish in Quebec with a "federal" PR and that was the reason they have their own express entry?

Thats not really completely true. First ALL PR are federal. There is no Quebec and non Quebec PR. You become a PR of Canada not that of a province. Typically, when a province sponsors you for a PNP program, you make a commitment to live there for sometime. Thats all.

Now in PR application process they ask if you want to live in Quebec and if you answer yes, AFAIK, they direct you to Quebec driven PR program. Now if you "no", they direct you to usual PR process.

That being said once you become a PR, there is NOTHING in the law that prevents you from living in Quebec. Read PR rights etc in https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/new-immigrants/pr-card/understand-pr-status.html

"live, work or study anywhere in Canada"

Quebec is in Canada. So nothing can stop you. Also there is no commitment on your intention. You can intend to do something in morning but next morning your intention may change.

 

[GandiBaat]

for real, it's better not to go to QC. sucks btw. this province should've been a separate country. i went there last weekend. total failure it is. had a 4 day trip and it included QC-Montreal. never gonna visit that place again, but connecting roads to eastern side of Canada via QC.

Non-Quebec canada is modelled after English common law. Lots of us immigrants are from former british colonies like India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. So lots of laws and processes for us are very similar to what we have back home.

Quebec, obviously, models itself after french legal system. So lots of things that you take for granted are different.

Plus its cold, they speak french and they are eternally miffed at rest of Canada for Night of Long Knives back in 1980s.

They are basically Tamil Nadu of Canada with a healthy dose of Kashmir thrown in. So tread carefully.

 

[GandiBaat]

I've just learned about this EB2-NIW and it seems interesting at first but if I'm getting everything correctly, a normal (Canadian) ECE master's guy with only work experience (in tech) with no reputable publications/citations has no shot at it, right? The self-petition is for the people with "impact"?

Okay! So hear me out!

EB-2 has two pathways:

1. Advanced Degree
2. Exceptional Ability

(https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/permanent-workers/employment-based-immigration-second-preference-eb-2)

Now with the second pathway has NIW wavier for job and there are three criteria to satisfy out of 6 or so. Please be mindful "Exceptional Ability" does not mean "Extraordinary Ability" which is for EB-1 A GC. Exceptional Ability means ability above ordinarily encountered Reference [https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-6-part-f-chapter-5]. It is not really top of the line, it is just above ordinary.

• Official academic record showing that you have a degree, diploma, certificate, or similar award from a college, university, school, or other institution of learning relating to your area of exceptional ability

Note, it does not say anything about GPA etc on the degree, not it says anything about repute of univ/school.

• Letters from current or former employers documenting at least 10 years of full-time experience in your occupation

Simple, enough? Again, nothing on quality of experience.

• Evidence that you have commanded a salary or other remuneration for services that demonstrates your exceptional ability

This is not really hard. You need to show what was your percentile of income in your field for your location of job. There are many salary surveys, both government and private. And believe me median is low.

• Membership in a professional association(s)

Again, this is NOT really hard. IEEE hand out memberships like toffees. You can also volunteer for reviewing papers in disciplines that require experience. Its again not a competition of GPA or Repute or anything like that. Industry experience can help you here. Its mostly a question of showing up. Show up to review papers for a national level IEEE conference and you are done. Choose an area like software engineering which is a lot about processes and matrices.

• Recognition for your achievements and significant contributions to your industry or field by your peers, government entities, professional or business organizations

This is harder but not impossible. Work with a prof who can write you a letter of recommendation. Or intern at a national level laboratory and possible have your name as a co-author of a research paper that say someone is writing. Contribute by reviewing and reproducing their work. If you are in industry, talk to your boss about publishing your work. Or talk about getting a patent on something. Remember, patents are noval BUT not necessarily hard or complex. Many companies like to patent things just for the heck of it. Also, remember, patent is NOT peer reviewed. Remember, patenting is a lot about lawyer and much less about lab.

Contrast this with EB1-A which really wants you to be the top of the field expert. Someone at a level of a Field medal or a Nobel prize or similar.

 

[GandiBaat]

National identity for starters. At 50% immigrants you basically have no identity and that matters a lot in almost every aspect of life inside the country and outside of it.

Okay. Lets see. Currently the ratio of immigrants is at 25%. What will magically happen at 50% that has not already happened? What kind of twigs will break?

Also be specific by what do you mean by "National Identity". In Canada, it might mean one of the few things, depending upon whom you ask:
1. Canadian citizen
2. Caucasian Race
3. Irish-Scottish ancestry
4. "We are NOT USA"
5. First Nation ancestry

For 1st, you are covered. No issues. And it is the most cited one in all civil discussions. It does imply adhering to Canadian values (which are a real thing even mentioned in constitution as well) though degree is always up for debate.

2nd and 3rd are weird because no one says it aloud because well... Even those Canadians do not want to look like their cousins south. It is there but it is more subtle. I highly doubt it will ever become a political talking point because the bigger Canadian identity is (4)... this (I kid you not) "We ARE NOT USA", even though hilariously, a lot of folks in Canada have family ties beyond 49th parallel and many hold dual passport. Its a canadian thing that I got reminded a lot while living and working in Canada. "We are not USA" is perhaps the strongest sense of Canadian-ness I have seen here.

5th is suppressed. Politically and in every damn way possible. Though it is rising a bit too.

If you are confusing Canadian "National Identity" to something like "USA USA USA" one, refer to 4.

So what do you mean, when you say "National Identity" here? In Canadian context. And what more will go wrong at 50% given we are already at 25%.

Quebec will be seperated from the rest of Canada as soon as you reach 30-35% total immigrants. Last time they went for a referendum, only 50,000 votes were in favor to stay united.

You know, Quebec has one of the highest public support for immigrants. 70% According to the survey I was looking at and linked before.

Also, as I said before as well, Quebec issues is NOT really about immigration but about language AND a sense of betrayal from an even back in 80s during repatriation of constitution AKA "The Night of Long Knives" or "The Kitchen Cabinet". Its hilarious. Its very Canadian. And its very painful to Quebecers -- AFAIK.

So, if quebec separatism happens, blame 80s and old True-dough.

You might already have read this fun story, but for sake of others who are not here : https://www.cbc.ca/history/EPISCONTENTSE1EP17CH1PA3LE.html .

So no, if Quebecers quit Canada, its not going to be because of immigrants. it will be the old True-dough and his "machinations" and language identity. But then anyone coming to canada knows this : You want to go live in Quebec, learn the language. Even now, the issue is not immigration per-say but the language identity. Quebecers do not want to bring in people in numbers because simply speaking they do not want to dilute french language based identity. More deeply, they do not trust english speaking part of Canada due to their history.

If a couple makes $200k+ NET a year combined, I would think $20k doesn't make a difference.

A family between $80k - $130k NET a year it matters, and those below those levels its almost a necessity.

Ummm... just to be clear. Do you mean 22K EVERY YEAR or one time? One time is not going to cut it. 22K every year, i dunno. Again, denmark, finland and sweden. It does not work. Like EVER.

From this answer alone, I can guess that you guys fall in the $130k+ NET a year salary combined, probably $200k+, so I guess I answered this already.

Refer to above.

Sure, that why you have a Super Visa and they can stay up to 5 years with you uninterrupted. They need to have PR as well ?

They are retired, what do they contribute to Canada, except emotionally/mentally helping their immidiate family members ? They are actually a cost.

If you were to bring your both parents and you already have a wife and two kids, according to IRCC if you have a GROSS income of $60,228 you are eligible to do that.

Tell me one place in Canada were 6 people can live off with that income. Remember that is GROSS, not NET.

Super Visa is GOOD, it helps but it does NOT allow people to live without major massive issues. Allow me to explain.

Most of healthcare in Canada is based around provincial medical care and atleast in two provinces : BC and Ontario, it is not just HARD but outright impossible to get local health care bill your insurers if they are not provincial insurance.

This is why PR is sought. IF Canada fixes this stupid-stupid issue, people can buy insurance from private providers and likes of cygna and live with just supervisa, again and again.

Otherwise, you need to have a massive stash of cash just to pay and then retrive money from insurance. It is NOT a cost thing but a billing thing. Its stupid and exists due to inefficient billing practices in many health deparments across canada.

Besides, 28K? Thats a drop in ocean when you are bringing in 500K folks.

Yup, as you said, in a lot of punjabi families, a.k.a immigrants, not Canadians. Not continent Europe as well.

Ummm... this is weird. Do you consider a punjabi in Canada to be more immigrant than an Italian in Canada? I doubt that Canadians feel any special attachment to greeks or Lithuanians etc. Most of the non-english speaking Europe suffers from same language barriers as punjabis do. Not to mention they also form cliques like punjabi do.

Look at any Ukrainian business, you will find more ukrainians. Its also a Canadian phenomenon. People almost always have cliques.

 

[ElvisRamaj]

ElvisRamaj said:

National identity for starters. At 50% immigrants you basically have no identity and that matters a lot in almost every aspect of life inside the country and outside of it.

GandiBaat said:

Okay. Lets see. Currently the ratio of immigrants is at 25%. What will magically happen at 50% that has not already happened? What kind of twigs will break?

Also be specific by what do you mean by "National Identity". In Canada, it might mean one of the few things, depending upon whom you ask:
1. Canadian citizen
2. Caucasian Race
3. Irish-Scottish ancestry
4. "We are NOT USA"
5. First Nation ancestry

For 1st, you are covered. No issues. And it is the most cited one in all civil discussions. It does imply adhering to Canadian values (which are a real thing even mentioned in constitution as well) though degree is always up for debate.

2nd and 3rd are weird because no one says it aloud because well... Even those Canadians do not want to look like their cousins south. It is there but it is more subtle. I highly doubt it will ever become a political talking point because the bigger Canadian identity is (4)... this (I kid you not) "We ARE NOT USA", even though hilariously, a lot of folks in Canada have family ties beyond 49th parallel and many hold dual passport. Its a canadian thing that I got reminded a lot while living and working in Canada. "We are not USA" is perhaps the strongest sense of Canadian-ness I have seen here.

5th is suppressed. Politically and in every damn way possible. Though it is rising a bit too.

If you are confusing Canadian "National Identity" to something like "USA USA USA" one, refer to 4.

So what do you mean, when you say "National Identity" here? In Canadian context. And what more will go wrong at 50% given we are already at 25%.

National identity has nothing to do with the ones you listed.

As a rule, the place you were "born" and "grew up" in, together at the same time, is your national identity. In this context, you have 75% who were born in Canada. Simple as that. Their national identity is Canada. Their interest, culture, home, soul, view, way of thinking, working, debating, living is Canadian.

You, me and every immigrant cannot be Canadian, our children yes, not us. We were born with another national identity. We can only hope to adabt as much as we can to Canada and their life.

Lets imagine a scenario, if Canada and India went to war, who do you fight for ? You are citizen of both and you are obligated to fight, what do you do ? Which anthem do you sing ? Which flag do you raise ? Well its never going to happen you might suggest, thats what Ukraine thought too. By the way, Ukraine and Russia don't just share a border, their share blood and history together.

Germany has almost 10 million turkish people living there, almost 1/8th of the population and you might point that out, but, Germany doesn't allow dual citizenship. You are either German or Turkish, thats it. Guess who is the leader of Europe ? They don't mess around important stuff.

I guess I was pretty clear on the position of national identity.

ElvisRamaj said:

Quebec will be seperated from the rest of Canada as soon as you reach 30-35% total immigrants. Last time they went for a referendum, only 50,000 votes were in favor to stay united.

GandiBaat said:

You know, Quebec has one of the highest public support for immigrants. 70% According to the survey I was looking at and linked before.

Also, as I said before as well, Quebec issues is NOT really about immigration but about language AND a sense of betrayal from an even back in 80s during repatriation of constitution AKA "The Night of Long Knives" or "The Kitchen Cabinet". Its hilarious. Its very Canadian. And its very painful to Quebecers -- AFAIK.

So, if quebec separatism happens, blame 80s and old True-dough.

You might already have read this fun story, but for sake of others who are not here : https://www.cbc.ca/history/EPISCONTENTSE1EP17CH1PA3LE.html .

So no, if Quebecers quit Canada, its not going to be because of immigrants. it will be the old True-dough and his "machinations" and language identity. But then anyone coming to canada knows this : You want to go live in Quebec, learn the language. Even now, the issue is not immigration per-say but the language identity. Quebecers do not want to bring in people in numbers because simply speaking they do not want to dilute french language based identity. More deeply, they do not trust english speaking part of Canada due to their history.

Quebec can support, integrate and accomodate about 50k immigrants per year without compromising their standard of living, house prices, culture, language fading, infrastructure, etc.

As simple as that. They have done the math and thats the number they get. It was suggested by other parties to go up to 80k, but that is not feasable, at least not for the moment and they have no plan to reconsider it. Simple and to the point, thats why the current government got a majority vote, almost crushing all other parties.

With Quebec, you are one reason away with parting ways and national identity is key to them, you better believe that. There is no Canada without Quebec, it simply isn't. There is no story to be told about the rest if you can't connected as a whole.

ElvisRamaj said:
If a couple makes $200k+ NET a year combined, I would think $20k doesn't make a difference.

A family between $80k - $130k NET a year it matters, and those below those levels its almost a necessity.

GandiBaat said:

Ummm... just to be clear. Do you mean 22K EVERY YEAR or one time? One time is not going to cut it. 22K every year, i dunno. Again, denmark, finland and sweden. It does not work. Like EVER.

That is 20k, one time payment. My suggestion.

Seeing from my point of view and if me and my wife both make up to 80k a year, I would see 20k to be very beneficial for my new born and extremely helping. I wouldn't hesitate much if that was an option. Not as an immigrant and not as a citizen. The first year of becoming a parent I think is very tough on all aspects and having a peace of mind especially financially that year makes things a lot easier.

ElvisRamaj said:

Sure, that why you have a Super Visa and they can stay up to 5 years with you uninterrupted. They need to have PR as well ?

They are retired, what do they contribute to Canada, except emotionally/mentally helping their immidiate family members ? They are actually a cost.

If you were to bring your both parents and you already have a wife and two kids, according to IRCC if you have a GROSS income of $60,228 you are eligible to do that.

Tell me one place in Canada were 6 people can live off with that income. Remember that is GROSS, not NET.

GandiBaat said:
Super Visa is GOOD, it helps but it does NOT allow people to live without major massive issues. Allow me to explain.

Most of healthcare in Canada is based around provincial medical care and atleast in two provinces : BC and Ontario, it is not just HARD but outright impossible to get local health care bill your insurers if they are not provincial insurance.

This is why PR is sought. IF Canada fixes this stupid-stupid issue, people can buy insurance from private providers and likes of cygna and live with just supervisa, again and again.

Otherwise, you need to have a massive stash of cash just to pay and then retrive money from insurance. It is NOT a cost thing but a billing thing. Its stupid and exists due to inefficient billing practices in many health deparments across canada.

Besides, 28K? Thats a drop in ocean when you are bringing in 500K folks.

The government's goal should be to take immidiate care of the most important things first.

Substituting 28k grandparents with 28k doctors and nurses makes the difference between day and night in terms of health care that every Canadian can benefit. It really doesn't matter if the number is big or small for the IRCC to process, its the return you get from both decisions.

Simple and straighforward.

You have 115k vacant jobs in the health care, I would like to think that this is a major GOD damn priority to tackle immidiately. Not tomorrow, now. Grandparents can have their PR after 3 years, because if there is no doctor or nurse, who will take care of them anyway.

ElvisRamaj said:

Yup, as you said, in a lot of punjabi families, a.k.a immigrants, not Canadians. Not continent Europe as well.

GandiBaat said:

Ummm... this is weird. Do you consider a punjabi in Canada to be more immigrant than an Italian in Canada? I doubt that Canadians feel any special attachment to greeks or Lithuanians etc. Most of the non-english speaking Europe suffers from same language barriers as punjabis do. Not to mention they also form cliques like punjabi do.

Look at any Ukrainian business, you will find more ukrainians. Its also a Canadian phenomenon. People almost always have cliques.

I consider almost all immigrants the same.

The lower and more diversified, the better. The better for the community, the province and the country.

I will never live in any neighborhood where the majority are immigrants and I have said it multiple times. The reason is as simple as it gets, if I am moving to Canada, I would like to experience Canada, not some form of Albanian-Canadian for example.

 

[ivicts]

Just EB2? then, yes even for Indians and Chinese. Tech companies will start processing your GC in the 2nd year itself if you ask them otherwise they will process in the 4th year of your H1b. Very very rarely companies apply for GC on Stem OPT because when your opt expires you are out of status unlike H1B which can renewed after 3 years.

I never did it myself so I do not have personal experience. But... I know people who self petitioned to become GC holder by NIW.
Search for NIW self petition packages... Google shows one.
https://www.eb2niw.com/niw-do-it-yourself-kit/


EB2 (without NIW) with a job offer is usual processing and required employers support. If you are not Indian and not Chinese, you will be fine with processing times.

hi @RSub @GandiBaat, I guess my question would be how willing the tech companies are to sponsor EB2 after I work in the US under STEM OPT? Is it only the big ones FAANG caliber that sponsors EB2? Or most tech companies even startups are willing to sponsor EB2? I meant if it is only FAANG caliber that is willing to sponsor EB2 that means it is not that easy as well to get it right?

So, for 2nd year processing means 5 years after graduation right? 3 years STEM OPT + 2 years H1B?

Is the one you know self-petition a software engineer or a data scientist, not a researcher?

 

[Deleted member 994371]

National identity has nothing to do with the ones you listed.

As a rule, the place you were "born" and "grew up" in, together at the same time, is your national identity. In this context, you have 75% who were born in Canada. Simple as that. Their national identity is Canada. Their interest, culture, home, soul, view, way of thinking, working, debating, living is Canadian.

You, me and every immigrant cannot be Canadian, our children yes, not us. We were born with another national identity. We can only hope to adabt as much as we can to Canada and their life.

Lets imagine a scenario, if Canada and India went to war, who do you fight for ? You are citizen of both and you are obligated to fight, what do you do ? Which anthem do you sing ? Which flag do you raise ? Well its never going to happen you might suggest, thats what Ukraine thought too. By the way, Ukraine and Russia don't just share a border, their share blood and history together.

Germany has almost 10 million turkish people living there, almost 1/8th of the population and you might point that out, but, Germany doesn't allow dual citizenship. You are either German or Turkish, thats it. Guess who is the leader of Europe ? They don't mess around important stuff.

I guess I was pretty clear on the position of national identity.




Quebec can support, integrate and accomodate about 50k immigrants per year without compromising their standard of living, house prices, culture, language fading, infrastructure, etc.

As simple as that. They have done the math and thats the number they get. It was suggested by other parties to go up to 80k, but that is not feasable, at least not for the moment and they have no plan to reconsider it. Simple and to the point, thats why the current government got a majority vote, almost crushing all other parties.

With Quebec, you are one reason away with parting ways and national identity is key to them, you better believe that. There is no Canada without Quebec, it simply isn't. There is no story to be told about the rest if you can't connected as a whole.




That is 20k, one time payment. My suggestion.

Seeing from my point of view and if me and my wife both make up to 80k a year, I would see 20k to be very beneficial for my new born and extremely helping. I wouldn't hesitate much if that was an option. Not as an immigrant and not as a citizen. The first year of becoming a parent I think is very tough on all aspects and having a peace of mind especially financially that year makes things a lot easier.




The government's goal should be to take immidiate care of the most important things first.

Substituting 28k grandparents with 28k doctors and nurses makes the difference between day and night in terms of health care that every Canadian can benefit. It really doesn't matter if the number is big or small for the IRCC to process, its the return you get from both decisions.

Simple and straighforward.

You have 115k vacant jobs in the health care, I would like to think that this is a major GOD damn priority to tackle immidiately. Not tomorrow, now. Grandparents can have their PR after 3 years, because if there is no doctor or nurse, who will take care of them anyway.




I consider almost all immigrants the same.

The lower and more diversified, the better. The better for the community, the province and the country.

I will never live in any neighborhood where the majority are immigrants and I have said it multiple times. The reason is as simple as it gets, if I am moving to Canada, I would like to experience Canada, not some form of Albanian-Canadian for example.

Prepare to be disappointed, mate. Canada is doing everything opposite you would like it to do.

Canada is all about multiculturalism, rather than being a melting pot. You should have aimed for US.

Best you can do is find yourself a closed community in Quebec. Rest of canada will be dead to you.

What's worse is it's already too late for change.

 

[ElvisRamaj]

Prepare to be disappointed, mate. Canada is doing everything opposite you would like it to do.

Canada is all about multiculturalism, rather than being a melting pot. You should have aimed for US.

Best you can do is find yourself a closed community in Quebec. Rest of canada will be dead to you.

What's worse is it's already too late for change.

I don't know why you think it will be dead to me ?

Because I suggested more doctors/nurses than grandparents, or direct financial help per new born to help increase Canada's birth rate, or less but specific diversified immigration tackling the job vacancies, or willing to change career and get into trades if thats what it takes to be successful, or perhaps learning the history of Canada since the inception to try and comprehend it better since I might be its citizen one day, or perhaps owning both languages to have a better chance of integrating myself wherever I choose to settle ?

Please, enlighten me !

 

[Deleted member 994371]

I don't know why you think it will be dead to me ?

Because I suggested more doctors/nurses than grandparents, or direct financial help per new born to help increase Canada's birth rate, or less but specific diversified immigration tackling the job vacancies, or willing to change career and get into trades if thats what it takes to be successful, or perhaps learning the history of Canada since the inception to try and comprehend it better since I might be its citizen one day, or perhaps owning both languages to have a better chance of integrating myself wherever I choose to settle ?

Please, enlighten me !

Because you are thinking of Canada as the US. US attracts all kinds of talents around the world. Canada is where people go when US rejects them.

Canada attracts Chinese and Indians because US won't take them.

Just to give you an example of Canadian multiculuralism:

1. Recently we had the festival of Diwali, part of the festival celebration is bursting crackers or fireworks. With the amount of Indians in Brampton and Missauga, thye lit up the entire city. Next morning, there was smog everywhere. All of Canadian cities subreddits were full of "coconut" Indians apologizing on behalf of the rest of the brown folks, saying how they are ashamed to be brown, how they could bleach themselves and change their something anglosaxon etc etc. Guess what happened? White people came out in support of Diwali by saying since its okay to burst crackers at Canada day and New years eve, its okay to light fireworks on Diwali as well. Few of them wanted to know how they could join the Indian community in their dance parties on Diwali.

2. Something that I witnessed at Calgary airport:
Imagine seeing something like this at an airport:

When I was leaving Calgary, I ran into a group of Sikhs wearing these dresses at an airport. You'll be hard to find sikhs wearing these dresses even in India. You might find a few of them wearing these in Punjab Gurudwaras but its a rarity to see them even in Delhi. There were women in these groups who had mustaches and few strands of beard (because apparently women too can get them). Sikh women can't shave or remove those hair because Sikhism forbids it. No one bat an eye at them. Everyone at the airport treated them normal. No one even stared at them, except for me. I was just shocked at how no one treated them different. At that day, I realized you can be anything in Canada.

This is what Canada is to me. Live and let live. You don't force your values and culture on someone else.



Out of curiosity, you have already mentioned you completed your schooling in the US. How did the US dream not work out for you? Not trying to antagonize you, what happened there? I don't imagine there is a 70 year old queue time for green card for Albanians. US is everything what you hope Canada will be one day.

The reason I keep going back to Quebec is the place of you is, that's the only place where they want to "preserve their heritage." It's french or GTFO. I don't imagine they would be pleased to see Punjabi speaking sardarjis in northern Quebec. You might fit right in with those folks since you are francophone as well and hate what the real Canada is.

 

[RSub]

hi @RSub @GandiBaat, I guess my question would be how willing the tech companies are to sponsor EB2 after I work in the US under STEM OPT? Is it only the big ones FAANG caliber that sponsors EB2? Or most tech companies even startups are willing to sponsor EB2? I meant if it is only FAANG caliber that is willing to sponsor EB2 that means it is not that easy as well to get it right?

So, for 2nd year processing means 5 years after graduation right? 3 years STEM OPT + 2 years H1B?

Is the one you know self-petition a software engineer or a data scientist, not a researcher?

On a OPT, I don't think companies will file for your GC. Its super rare. On h1b, tech companies will sponsor your GC. Most tech companies and even small start-ups do sponsors GC. By 2nd year, I meant about your time in the company and on the assumption that you will be on H1B.

 

[RSub]

I've just learned about this EB2-NIW and it seems interesting at first but if I'm getting everything correctly, a normal (Canadian) ECE master's guy with only work experience (in tech) with no reputable publications/citations has no shot at it, right? The self-petition is for the people with "impact"?

Correct. But I have seen people with Master's getting their EB2 NIW. What they do is they start the ground work early by publishing papers, filing a patent application (pending patent is fine) on their name, some industry recognition like awards. Also, if you are a Canadian and your country of birth is not India or China, then you can come to US on a L1 A or L1 B or H1b, find a company to sponsor your GC, and get your GC within 15 months.

 

[RSub]

Is the one you know self-petition a software engineer or a data scientist, not a researcher?

Researcher. But anybody can get a publication or a patent or awards.

 

[RSub]

hi @RSub @GandiBaat, I guess my question would be how willing the tech companies are to sponsor EB2 after I work in the US under STEM OPT? Is it only the big ones FAANG caliber that sponsors EB2? Or most tech companies even startups are willing to sponsor EB2? I meant if it is only FAANG caliber that is willing to sponsor EB2 that means it is not that easy as well to get it right?

So, for 2nd year processing means 5 years after graduation right? 3 years STEM OPT + 2 years H1B?

Is the one you know self-petition a software engineer or a data scientist, not a researcher?

One more thing, if you badly need a GC, then approach an Indian-origin or Chinese-origin attorney in the US. They know how to get your GC. Stay away from American (non-brown or asian) attorneys because they don't know what the actual F they are talking about.

 

[GandiBaat]

Lets imagine a scenario, if Canada and India went to war, who do you fight for ? You are citizen of both and you are obligated to fight, what do you do ? Which anthem do you sing ? Which flag do you raise ? Well its never going to happen you might suggest, thats what Ukraine thought too. By the way, Ukraine and Russia don't just share a border, their share blood and history together.

The biggest chunk of immigrants in Canada are of Indian or Chinese origin. India and China both do not recognise dual citizenship. So the moment I take Canadian passport, I surrender Indian one. I am personally an Indian. If this war happens after I took Canadian passport, I will fight for Canada, raise its flag and so on. If the war happened before I took Canadian citizenship, I will relocate my entire family and myself back to India for the fear of persecution by Canadian government. In India, it is almost impossible I will he called for war as India has one of the biggest defence forces in the world and surely against Canada they will not be running out of personnels before they run out of equipment and ammunition.

Germany has almost 10 million turkish people living there, almost 1/8th of the population and you might point that out, but, Germany doesn't allow dual citizenship. You are either German or Turkish, thats it. Guess who is the leader of Europe ? They don't mess around important stuff.

Do not worry, India and China has already solved this problem for you. You can be ONLY India or ONLY chinese. None of these countries recognize dual citizenship. And together they form one of the largest part of immigrants. This year only, they form 32 + 8 = 40% of immigrants. If Canada allows more immigrants, you will get much much more Indian and possibly Chinese origin folks only.

Quebec can support, integrate and accomodate about 50k immigrants per year without compromising their standard of living, house prices, culture, language fading, infrastructure, etc.

As simple as that.

I doubt Quebec said ANY thing about culture and infrastructure and "etc". The only reason reiterated by Legault and Fréchette was ability to teach new comers language.

And lets not forget, both Conseil du patronat (quebec's association of employers) and quebecers themselves are actually in favour of at least current level of immigration and has asked its government to reconsider its target in immigration.


70% of quebecers had no problem with current level of immigration.

https://www.environicsinstitute.org/docs/default-source/project-documents/focus-canada---fall-2022---immigration-refugees/focus-canada-fall-2022---canadian-public-opinion-about-immigration-refugees---final-report.pdf

From the document ...

Agree-Disagree: “Overall, there is too much immigration to Canada.”

In Quebec – where immigration featured prominently in the just concluded provincial election – opinions about immigration levels mirror the national average (70% disagree, versus 25% agree, unchanged from 2021.

That is 20k, one time payment. My suggestion.

Seeing from my point of view and if me and my wife both make up to 80k a year, I would see 20k to be very beneficial for my new born and extremely helping. I wouldn't hesitate much if that was an option. Not as an immigrant and not as a citizen. The first year of becoming a parent I think is very tough on all aspects and having a peace of mind especially financially that year makes things a lot easier.

20K one time payment is likely to not cut it. Biggest expense tends to be daycare and that is being fixed as we speak in many provinces. In countries with even bigger financial support for babies, it has not really stopped the decline in fertility: like Sweden, Denmark etc. Highly doubt 22K one time payment is going to make a dent in decline of per female fertility rate required to support population.

The government's goal should be to take immidiate care of the most important things first.

Substituting 28k grandparents with 28k doctors and nurses makes the difference between day and night in terms of health care that every Canadian can benefit. It really doesn't matter if the number is big or small for the IRCC to process, its the return you get from both decisions.

Simple and straighforward.

You have 115k vacant jobs in the health care, I would like to think that this is a major GOD damn priority to tackle immidiately. Not tomorrow, now. Grandparents can have their PR after 3 years, because if there is no doctor or nurse, who will take care of them anyway.

There are already 472K seats that can be filled by nurses in immigration. They can do NOC specific draws and just give nurses more preference. Which I think in new system is going to happen.

That said, it will still not solve the problem as doctors and nurses need to under go residency and related training before they can operate in Canada. Thats the bottleneck.

filling 28K PGP with nurses and doctors might bring more nurses and doctors but they will sit idle or drive taxi as system to accomodate them is not in place.

The reason is as simple as it gets, if I am moving to Canada, I would like to experience Canada, not some form of Albanian-Canadian for example.

Sorry mate, Canada owes nothing in terms of experience to any of us. Canada takes decision on immigration policy to help itself.