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[RSub]

I saw recruiters passing on candidate because he stayed in his position for 3 years. Their words: "He got too comfortable and stopped developing". In this sector and in this time, 1-2 years is norm. Surely, some recruiters will pass on but some won't. You just one "Yes", right? )))

These recruiters gets on my nerve. Off late, I see a whole bunch of talent acquisition teams in Canada getting laid off. I couldn't' see their value in a company. Most of them post fake hiring stories on LinkedIn. If a team has an opening, the manager could do a bare minimum and recruit a new employee instead of involving an HR person. I don't see why an HR need to speak with the candidates. Do the paper work and fk off.

 

[ElvisRamaj]

Alright guys, so here's my "finally" (but not final) message!
Started the whole process in early 2018 and faced issues with almost everything that I laid my hands on and had a lot of near misses during pre-pandemic times. After 2 ECAs, 5 IELTS, 3 TEF, 2 TCF (+ wife's ECA and IELTS), I finally received the ITA last week. Submitted the application today and now ready for the post-AOR stage.
Cheers!

That is a well deserved ITA.

Congrats to you.

 

[GandiBaat]

Alright guys, so here's my "finally" (but not final) message!
Started the whole process in early 2018 and faced issues with almost everything that I laid my hands on and had a lot of near misses during pre-pandemic times. After 2 ECAs, 5 IELTS, 3 TEF, 2 TCF (+ wife's ECA and IELTS), I finally received the ITA last week. Submitted the application today and now ready for the post-AOR stage.
Cheers!

Congrats man!

 

[cansha]

Some companies think that they are Google and ask questions that I saw at FB interviews. On top of that, there are 3-5 interviews for each position. It's not really about the lack of talent (well, maybe there is a lack of one for senior/managerial positions); it's more about the too high of requirements and convoluted process. My interview at a super prestigious HF in Zurich was less challenging than an interview at TD in Canada; higher salary as well (180K TC vs. 110K) and I don't even mention the boost my CV will get after working at HF for year or 2.

Biggest issue of hiring in Canada. Their hiring process is shit and then they cry there is no talent. I mean it's not that they are doing cutting edge work.

 

[wonderbly]

Alright guys, so here's my "finally" (but not final) message!
Started the whole process in early 2018 and faced issues with almost everything that I laid my hands on and had a lot of near misses during pre-pandemic times. After 2 ECAs, 5 IELTS, 3 TEF, 2 TCF (+ wife's ECA and IELTS), I finally received the ITA last week. Submitted the application today and now ready for the post-AOR stage.
Cheers!

Wow, congrats man! I hope you make it to Canada soon, and I pray it's worth it, and all you expect it to be and more.

 

[wonderbly]

Biggest issue of hiring in Canada. Their hiring process is shit and then they cry there is no talent. I mean it's not that they are doing cutting edge work.

Couldn't agree more!

 

[PRANIT01]

Hi folks ,I am back I was really busywith work,how is things going here?saw lot of guys got ita happy for them.
I saw something interesting in canada ,some of you guys may be able to give some insights.(obviously I knew prices were high)
A home in calgary now is sitting at 500-700k I am not talking about fancy stuff just average home ,let us assume 20% down payment that is 100k to 140 k and monthly payments approximately 2500-3000 ,utilities 500 ,how are new immigrants affording this homes ,I think I am getting decent salary according to canadian standards but If it is this way it is almost impossible to buy something and I forgot to add taxes .I feel like if I have to afford this I will have to work to death ,here am I missing something. Not to spread panic it is a great place to live I think this is the number 1 problem.if you get this sorted out then you are good ,trust me with good skills getting a job in a good company is easy but housing prices gave me chills.inorder to afford down-payment it will take 2 yrs that time this will be 700 to 1M$ which will again push the needle.
Obviously if you have generational wealth and get handout from your parents it is easy else it is a very tough road ahead.(which is my case).
Even with 100k you will be house poor.
Is there anything I am missing.

 

[Deleted member 1083629]

Hi folks ,I am back I was really busywith work,how is things going here?saw lot of guys got ita happy for them.
I saw something interesting in canada ,some of you guys may be able to give some insights.(obviously I knew prices were high)
A home in calgary now is sitting at 500-700k I am not talking about fancy stuff just average home ,let us assume 20% down payment that is 100k to 140 k and monthly payments approximately 2500-3000 ,utilities 500 ,how are new immigrants affording this homes ,I think I am getting decent salary according to canadian standards but If it is this way it is almost impossible to buy something and I forgot to add taxes .I feel like if I have to afford this I will have to work to death ,here am I missing something. Not to spread panic it is a great place to live I think this is the number 1 problem.if you get this sorted out then you are good ,trust me with good skills getting a job in a good company is easy but housing prices gave me chills.inorder to afford down-payment it will take 2 yrs that time this will be 700 to 1M$ which will again push the needle.
Obviously if you have generational wealth and get handout from your parents it is easy else it is a very tough road ahead.(which is my case).
Even with 100k you will be house poor.
Is there anything I am missing.

Why do you think people like me are looking at Canada as a temp. option? ) According to a statistic that was published in 2019-2020, 87% of CS graduates from UWaterloo are either moving, or planning to move the USA after the graduation.

If you think Calgary is bad, you don't want to look at Toronto market. Even if you work yourself to death, you will still not able to afford 2 bdr. condo in Toronto. The only option is keep jumping jobs every year, which will sooner or later put you at severe disadvantage.

And getting A job is easy; getting THE job is hard. THE job is the one that will contribute to your career growth, have strong team, good work-life balance, decent salary. A job can be any startup.

 

[Deleted member 1083629]

Biggest issue of hiring in Canada. Their hiring process is shit and then they cry there is no talent. I mean it's not that they are doing cutting edge work.

I still remember my interview at TD. Data structures and algorithms (level medium -> hard), system design, 2 rounds of behavioral interview. For what? To use Informatica GUI tool for ETL pipelines. I am like, dude, get out of there. I am not doing this crap.

At the same time, very famous hedge fund from Switzerland: 1 hour behavioral/technical kind of interview + a 30 minutes coding problem where the goal is to review the code that was written by someone else (2 classes). Salary: 180k euros vs. 110k CAD.

 

[PRANIT01]

Why do you think people like me are looking at Canada as a temp. option? ) According to a statistic that was published in 2019-2020, 87% of CS graduates from UWaterloo are either moving, or planning to move the USA after the graduation.

If you think Calgary is bad, you don't want to look at Toronto market. Even if you work yourself to death, you will still not able to afford 2 bdr. condo in Toronto. The only option is keep jumping jobs every year, which will sooner or later put you at severe disadvantage.

And getting A job is easy; getting THE job is hard. THE job is the one that will contribute to your career growth, have strong team, good work-life balance, decent salary. A job can be any startup.

I talked about "the job" if you have good skills it is easy ,especially supply chain .In data science it can be hard because of immense competition, manufacturing yes it is hard no question in that.
Obviously if you land in torronto where atleast 10k people land a day ,what you expect competition plenty of cheap labor and the companies have more bargaining power.if you move to places outside torronto Vancouver I don't think finding "the job" is hard but depends on your field.

Yeah torronto is done ,Vancouver lol .The whole point of me landing in calgary was affordability,not because I love -40 c

People talk as if canda is the paradise on earth ,Don't take me wrong it is a good country but the govt and their housing laws are garbage.when you elect clowns you can't expect more.I am that fool who moved from US to canada lol .seems like I have to move back again lol.

 

[Deleted member 1083629]

I talked about "the job" if you have good skills it is easy ,especially supply chain .In data science it can be hard because of immense competition, manufacturing yes it is hard no question in that.
Obviously if you land in torronto where atleast 10k people land a day ,what you expect competition plenty of cheap labor and the companies have more bargaining power.if you move to places outside torronto Vancouver I don't think finding "the job" is hard but depends on your field.

Yeah torronto is done ,Vancouver lol .The whole point of me landing in calgary was affordability,not because I love -40 c

People talk as if canda is the paradise on earth ,Don't take me wrong it is a good country but the govt and their housing laws are garbage.when you elect clowns you can't expect more.I am that fool who moved from US to canada lol .seems like I have to move back again lol.

I was talking about getting a job in Toronto/Kitchener-Waterloo area. Good to know that the situation is different in Calgary.

No one really talks bout Canada being paradise on earth. It's just other than Canada, there is not a single country that allows you to get PR through some sort of program. Every other country, it is either you have to study there -> get a job, OR get a job -> get sponsored for a work visa -> live in the country for several years -> PR.

 

[PRANIT01]

I was talking about getting a job in Toronto/Kitchener-Waterloo area. Good to know that the situation is different in Calgary.

No one really talks bout Canada being paradise on earth. It's just other than Canada, there is not a single country that allows you to get PR through some sort of program. Every other country, it is either you have to study there -> get a job, OR get a job -> get sponsored for a work visa -> live in the country for several years -> PR.

See this is where lot get wrong just getting pr won't solve things,even getting a job ,affordability is the key even if you are earning 1M for your basic necessity if you need 1.5 M you are back to sq1.
If you have to think twice when you go to Safeway to buy something doesn't matter you get citizenship directly ,you are poor.
Garbage apartment are sold for 1 M in torronto and Vancouver, Canada is the second biggest country in the world out skirts of calgary has plenty of land guess what we are sitting at 700k homes .

 

[ElvisRamaj]

Hi folks ,I am back I was really busywith work,how is things going here?saw lot of guys got ita happy for them.
I saw something interesting in canada ,some of you guys may be able to give some insights.(obviously I knew prices were high)
A home in calgary now is sitting at 500-700k I am not talking about fancy stuff just average home ,let us assume 20% down payment that is 100k to 140 k and monthly payments approximately 2500-3000 ,utilities 500 ,how are new immigrants affording this homes ,I think I am getting decent salary according to canadian standards but If it is this way it is almost impossible to buy something and I forgot to add taxes .I feel like if I have to afford this I will have to work to death ,here am I missing something. Not to spread panic it is a great place to live I think this is the number 1 problem.if you get this sorted out then you are good ,trust me with good skills getting a job in a good company is easy but housing prices gave me chills.inorder to afford down-payment it will take 2 yrs that time this will be 700 to 1M$ which will again push the needle.
Obviously if you have generational wealth and get handout from your parents it is easy else it is a very tough road ahead.(which is my case).
Even with 100k you will be house poor.
Is there anything I am missing.

New immigrants aren't affording sh*t.

If you take into account metropolitan cities like Toronto or Vancouver, they are just surviving. Good for you for moving to Calgary. The further away you move from them the richer you will be and live a more balanced life. Imagine buying a condo for $400k and paying like $600+ condo fees monthly and in some instances an additional $2k in property taxes yearly, on top of your mortgage. Freaking ridiculous. You are better off renting. A $50k yearly salary there is the bare minimum to survive.

 

[Deleted member 1083629]

See this is where lot get wrong just getting pr won't solve things,even getting a job ,affordability is the key even if you are earning 1M for your basic necessity if you need 1.5 M you are back to sq1.
If you have to think twice when you go to Safeway to buy something doesn't matter you get citizenship directly ,you are poor.
Garbage apartment are sold for 1 M in torronto and Vancouver, Canada is the second biggest country in the world out skirts of calgary has plenty of land guess what we are sitting at 700k homes .

For many people immigrating is a goal. Canada is the only country in the world that offers a direct path to get PR without stepping a foot in the country beforehand. You are correct about affordability; it will only get worse. However, people will keep coming to Canada; there is not but/if/maybes. The constant flow of immigrants will continue. The constant flow of bogus students will continue.

Of course, when there are many people moving in a city and they all need to live somewhere, rent will increase. What has been happening for the last several years is constant increase in real estate. There are many factors that contribute to that.

When I moved to Canada in 2017 for Masters, 1 bdr in Toronto costed like 1500 CAD in rent. Right now, it costs 2400 CAD. This is not the limit at all. I am expected to see an increase in price in January. That's why when @GandiBaat says that it doesn't look good when one changes a job every year or 2, I agree with him only partially; there is no other way to keep surviving. You have to change a job often to get a salary hike. And you need a salary hike just to be able to stay afloat. Unfortunately, this is not something bogus agents and self-proclaimed immigration lawyers talk about. However, if you head to subreddit personalfinancecanada or ontario, you will see that you and I are not alone in this situation. People literally cannot afford to live in Toronto and Vancouver. For me, it might not be a great problem; I am a software and I just need a laptop to work. However, there are some people who cannot move to a cheaper place and work remotely; they have to show up to their offices.

 

[navinball]

Hi folks ,I am back I was really busywith work,how is things going here?saw lot of guys got ita happy for them.
I saw something interesting in canada ,some of you guys may be able to give some insights.(obviously I knew prices were high)
A home in calgary now is sitting at 500-700k I am not talking about fancy stuff just average home ,let us assume 20% down payment that is 100k to 140 k and monthly payments approximately 2500-3000 ,utilities 500 ,how are new immigrants affording this homes ,I think I am getting decent salary according to canadian standards but If it is this way it is almost impossible to buy something and I forgot to add taxes .I feel like if I have to afford this I will have to work to death ,here am I missing something. Not to spread panic it is a great place to live I think this is the number 1 problem.if you get this sorted out then you are good ,trust me with good skills getting a job in a good company is easy but housing prices gave me chills.inorder to afford down-payment it will take 2 yrs that time this will be 700 to 1M$ which will again push the needle.
Obviously if you have generational wealth and get handout from your parents it is easy else it is a very tough road ahead.(which is my case).
Even with 100k you will be house poor.
Is there anything I am missing.

Not sure if your math adds up. A decent semi detached of around 500k with 20% down-payment you are looking at around 2000 mortgage. Property tax is 250 a month. Assuming utilities is 500 a month which is a bit high and groceries plus gas of 1250 a month. You are looking at monthly expenses of 4000.
A 100k salary is 6k a month after taxes. So you are still saving 2k a month.
of course this applies to Calgary, not toronto.