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3rd year UBC student returned home, visa refused.

LilithZ

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Nov 7, 2021
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I need two more semesters to graduate from UBC.
I went back to China and planed to return to Canada before September. My visa is expired, so I applied for a new one.

Here is the refusal reason given on the letter:
"I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR. I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:
• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application."


I don't understand why I was not allowed to finish my study in Canada. How am I going to prove that I will leave Canada after graduation? My purpose to visit Canada is always the same - to study.
Anyone knows how to deal with this? I need to reapply as soon as possible because I will miss classes in fall semester.
Thank you so much for all the helps!
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,921
22,166
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
I need two more semesters to graduate from UBC.
I went back to China and planed to return to Canada before September. My visa is expired, so I applied for a new one.

Here is the refusal reason given on the letter:
"I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR. I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:
• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application."


I don't understand why I was not allowed to finish my study in Canada. How am I going to prove that I will leave Canada after graduation? My purpose to visit Canada is always the same - to study.
Anyone knows how to deal with this? I need to reapply as soon as possible because I will miss classes in fall semester.
Thank you so much for all the helps!
That's a confusing refusal reason.

What did you submit with the TRV application? Did you show a valid study permit / proof of enrolment?
 

LilithZ

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Nov 7, 2021
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That's a confusing refusal reason.

What did you submit with the TRV application? Did you show a valid study permit / proof of enrolment?
Yes, I submitted my study permit, but it's expired during my visa application processing period. I have also uploaded a letter from UBC science department stating when I began my study there and when I'm going to graduate. I was not enrolled for next term at the time when I submitted my application, but now I'm enrolled for September.

Thank you very much for your reply!
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,921
22,166
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Yes, I submitted my study permit, but it's expired during my visa application processing period. I have also uploaded a letter from UBC science department stating when I began my study there and when I'm going to graduate. I was not enrolled for next term at the time when I submitted my application, but now I'm enrolled for September.

Thank you very much for your reply!
Have you obtained a new study permit?
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,921
22,166
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
I thought study permit is only obtainable when I return to Canada at custom?
I need a visa to return first?

Thank you very much!
You said "my visa expired so I applied for a new one". What exactly do you mean by that?
 

LilithZ

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Nov 7, 2021
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You said "my visa expired so I applied for a new one". What exactly do you mean by that?
My visa expired, but my study permit was still valid at that time. I applied for a new visa when I'm out of Canada. My study permit expired while I'm waiting for my visa result. They are both expired now.
Thank you!
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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My visa expired, but my study permit was still valid at that time. I applied for a new visa when I'm out of Canada. My study permit expired while I'm waiting for my visa result. They are both expired now.
Thank you!
Did you indicate that you were applying for a TRV to continue your studies and provide proof that you had been attending UBC full-time for 3 years? At this point you need to be applying for a new study permit not a TRV.
 

antonyshruti

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May 10, 2021
30
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My visa expired, but my study permit was still valid then. I applied for a new visa when I was out of Canada. My study permit expired while I'm waiting for my visa result. They are both expired now.
Thank you!
I am in the same situation as yours - a McGill student with expired TRV and yet-to-be expire SP. I have applied for SP to renew both my status and visa. It sounds like you have done the right thing and attached the right documentation, as I have done the same. Besides that, I have also attached a letter from my thesis supervisor to support my application.

Will ordering GCMS notes help you, but I am concerned about whether it will delay your application further? You can also seek immigration help from UBC (I'm not sure such a thing exists in your univ, but we have a solid system, and they used to offer the best advice). Also, how many days did they take to review your application?
 

LilithZ

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Nov 7, 2021
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Did you indicate that you were applying for a TRV to continue your studies and provide proof that you had been attending UBC full-time for 3 years? At this point you need to be applying for a new study permit not a TRV.
Thank you for your help!
When I started my application on IRCC after filling out all the questionnaires, the system directed me to a TRV automatically. I was not given a chance to choose study permit. I think it is because my study permit has not expired at that time.
Today, I tried to re-apply again and this time I got directed to a study permit application since I chose "NO" for the study permit question in the questionnaires.
 

LilithZ

Full Member
Nov 7, 2021
26
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I am in the same situation as yours - a McGill student with expired TRV and yet-to-be expire SP. I have applied for SP to renew both my status and visa. It sounds like you have done the right thing and attached the right documentation, as I have done the same. Besides that, I have also attached a letter from my thesis supervisor to support my application.

Will ordering GCMS notes help you, but I am concerned about whether it will delay your application further? You can also seek immigration help from UBC (I'm not sure such a thing exists in your univ, but we have a solid system, and they used to offer the best advice). Also, how many days did they take to review your application?
How can you apply both at the same time?
 

LilithZ

Full Member
Nov 7, 2021
26
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Did you indicate that you were applying for a TRV to continue your studies and provide proof that you had been attending UBC full-time for 3 years? At this point you need to be applying for a new study permit not a TRV.
hi again,
I forgot to ask that for study permit, IRCC asks me to upload an acceptance letter, not enrollment letter this time. The two letter are different, aren't they? Should I get both of them? After getting the study permit, do I need a visa to come to Canada?
Thank you very much!
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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hi again,
I forgot to ask that for study permit, IRCC asks me to upload an acceptance letter, not enrollment letter this time. The two letter are different, aren't they? Should I get both of them? After getting the study permit, do I need a visa to come to Canada?
Thank you very much!
Might as well include both but usually people are applying who haven’t started their program thus the LOA requirement. Would include transcripts indicating that you’ve been studying.
 

antonyshruti

Full Member
May 10, 2021
30
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How can you apply both at the same time?
Well, I had a month before the expiry of my study permit, so I applied for a visitor visa. As you mentioned earlier, the questionnaire didn't show me the SP option. However, I would have applied for the SP, if I had my CAQ then. Anyway, when you apply for SP outside the canada, they will technically issue an TRV for you. So at this point of time, you can just reapply for SP with strong documents.
Besides, my SP was approved yesterday.