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ElvisRamaj

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Yeah, country cap defeats any merit-based purpose at some point. But at the same time no cap defeats demographic balance which I believe is just as important. A variable country cap could balance between the two. Like if the majority of apps are from a particular country, that country could be given a bit higher cap than the others. Or maybe the caps could be based on country + NOC and adjusted accordingly.
If the conservative party will win the next election (I believe they will no matter what because Canadians like to switch) country caps will be introduced and applied, and possibly the immigration numbers will be reduced considerably.

Plus, if IRCC achieves its goal of having control of the NOCs they can invite and Quebec being awarded almost complete autonomy in the processing of their immigration files, they wont need country caps at all.

I also believe that French will become even more important for immigration, so to any future immigrant, learn French and excel in English.

Lastly, I can guarantee that an overwhelming amount of outland applicants that have waited so long for their PPR and the ones waiting to receive an ITA for (including me) will become die-hard conservatives once they land.
 
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If the conservative party will win the next election (I believe they will no matter what because Canadians like to switch) country caps will be introduced
Lol. Keep dreaming. No sane party would do that in the 21st century. The only reason the US has it is because it was introduced at a time when xenophobia/racism was common and now they're stuck in a status quo to get rid of it.
 
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I also believe that French will become even more important for immigration, so to any future immigrant, learn French and excel in English.
I hope so. French blocks a lot of foreigners out so this would be a natural regulator in demographics.

Lastly, I can guarantee that an overwhelming amount of outland applicants that have waited so long for their PPR and the ones waiting to receive an ITA for (including me) will become die-hard conservatives once they land.
This has always been true, but yeah it will be more prominent.
 
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ElvisRamaj

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Lol. Keep dreaming. No sane party would do that in the 21st century. The only reason the US has it is because it was introduced at a time when xenophobia/racism was common and now they're stuck in a status quo to get rid of it.
Well, if its not going to be introduced explicitly, it will be done indirectly.

Just follow the political scene and you will understand. Why do you think an unlimited number of Ukranians (European, mostly Orthodox - Christian) could apply for urgent visitor visa and be eligible for an open work permit as soon as they land, leading to become certain Canadian PRs in the future ? To counter balance the immigrants from Asia - Africa. 100k+ approved so far and I believe they will reach up to 300k by the years end, equally to a whole year of federal immigration quotas.

Additionally, if the political party in power decides to increase the French language points to say 60, there will be a lot of future candidates whol will just give IELTS for the sake of getting CLB 7 and focus on French. No to mention if they decide to handle French draws, thats a different case completely which will balance the immigration stream even further.

You see, there are lots of ways that you can inderectly put a cap on country quotas.
 

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Hello everyone,

I am post PPR applicant
I am worried as my passport's first page lamination is little bit teared but in RFV it was clearly mentioned that it should not be, could this lead to returning of passport without visa stamping

Please share any experiences on this or similar

Thanks in advance
 

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Well, if its not going to be introduced explicitly, it will be done indirectly.

Just follow the political scene and you will understand. Why do you think an unlimited number of Ukranians (European, mostly Orthodox - Christian) could apply for urgent visitor visa and be eligible for an open work permit as soon as they land, leading to become certain Canadian PRs in the future ? To counter balance the immigrants from Asia - Africa. 100k+ approved so far and I believe they will reach up to 300k by the years end, equally to a whole year of federal immigration quotas.

Additionally, if the political party in power decides to increase the French language points to say 60, there will be a lot of future candidates whol will just give IELTS for the sake of getting CLB 7 and focus on French. No to mention if they decide to handle French draws, thats a different case completely which will balance the immigration stream even further.

You see, there are lots of ways that you can inderectly put a cap on country quotas.
I don't know why you are conflating the introduction of new streams or modification of criteria with country caps. A country cap is an immutable cap based on one's origin which one can't overcome no matter what. If someone can acquire a new skill or language to meet the criteria, it's not exactly a cap.
 

ElvisRamaj

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I don't know why you are conflating the introduction of new streams or modification of criteria with country caps. A country cap is an immutable cap based on one's origin which one can't overcome no matter what. If someone can acquire a new skill or language to meet the criteria, it's not exactly a cap.
Please read the post again, because I don't think you understood it correctly.

If the quota is not put directly (explicitly), with these "already" on the way changes to the Express Entry, it will be done indirectly. Assume that the French draws would become a normality, can you imagine where the absolute majority will be from ? Hint, not Asia.

Now, imagine if they award additional points as a French speaker, who do you think will benefit the most as in an easy and faster to acquire skill ? Hint, not Asians. Their accent prevents the majority, no matter what. Have you heard a typical asian speaking English ? Its like a new form of their mother tongue.

Also, this year are the Ukranians favored, next year who knows who will be to counter balance things out.
 

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Hello everyone,

Can anyone answer on this

I am post PPR applicant
I am worried as my passport's first page lamination is little bit teared but in RFV it was clearly mentioned that it should not be, could this lead to returning of passport without visa stamping

Please share any experiences on this or similar

Thanks in advance
 

KarenJ

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I got a response from Fraser's office yesterday that my file has been moved to CIO from Vancouver.

It was originally at CIO then moved to Accra => Winnipeg => Vancouver and now at CIO. I called on February 24 and Eligibility and Security were not yet started.

I'm trying to make sense of this new movement. What do you guys think? What could be the reason? Is it a good move?

Thank you.
Hi lekanoni any update on your application?
 

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Thanks bro ,no I didn't receive SIN I requested for an appointment ,tmrw will call them if they allow walk in will go day after tmrw else wait.
Today got my connections for phone(fido),bought bus pass and groceries.
That's nice, I hear Fido has best plans. How is the network though?
 

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Well, if its not going to be introduced explicitly, it will be done indirectly.

Just follow the political scene and you will understand. Why do you think an unlimited number of Ukranians (European, mostly Orthodox - Christian) could apply for urgent visitor visa and be eligible for an open work permit as soon as they land, leading to become certain Canadian PRs in the future ? To counter balance the immigrants from Asia - Africa. 100k+ approved so far and I believe they will reach up to 300k by the years end, equally to a whole year of federal immigration quotas.

Additionally, if the political party in power decides to increase the French language points to say 60, there will be a lot of future candidates whol will just give IELTS for the sake of getting CLB 7 and focus on French. No to mention if they decide to handle French draws, thats a different case completely which will balance the immigration stream even further.

You see, there are lots of ways that you can inderectly put a cap on country quotas.
Mate one advantages these Ukrainians have over Asians is that they'll happily settle somewhere like Winnipeg or Newfoundland without batting an eye about the cold or weather. The -20 degrees will probably remind them of back home
 
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Beat them at their own game, learn french if you're the former and blow both out of the water.

How many French people from France immigrate to Quebec? Does anyone have any stats on that?

I bet the stats will surprise everyone. Only desperate eastern European will immigrate to Quebec as Francophones.
 
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cemivac

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How many French people from France immigrate to Quebec? Does anyone have any stats on that?

I bet the stats will surprise everyone. Only desperate eastern European will immigrate to Quebec as Francophones.
Anecdotally, most French (from France, not the wider Francophone group) people I know that immigrate to Quebec usually do it with a job offer/prospect in hand. While I do not have the stats at hand I'm not entirely sure if they'd vary significantly, since learning French is a great asset for the regular, federal, non Quebec, Express Entry as of late (50? extra points anyone?).