Misrepresentation

[Hehee]

The agent didn't make a mistake. The agent committed intentional fraud. A mistake is someone that happens on one application due to error. Here we already know that are multiple applications impacted and that it has something to do with fake/modified transcripts. That's intentional fraud. We see IRCC do sweeps like this once in a while when they identify problematic agents who are committing fraud. They don't cancel approved visas when there is a single mistake. OP has already said he is not the only person impacted. So this is something bigger.

The only question now is whether the agent committed that fraud on the OPs application specifically or whether the OP is under review due to fraud in other applications belonging to the same agent (but the OP's application is OK).

I agree with the earlier comment regarding there being very little recourse when problems like this happen with unregistered agents. If there was in fact fraud committed by the agent in the OPs application, the OP will be held responsible.

I know what you are trying to say. But you can’t be sure if the agent did make a fraud document what if he did everything genuine but ircc is not thinking they are. You can’t just say it’s a fraud without any proof. Sometimes IRCC does make mistakes even if there is genuine documents. So you can’t be 100% certain that the agent made a mistake. He still has a chance if he wants to fight for it.

 

[Startup_Visa]

Many of the people here are not registered inculding me as well. The thing is with his case like he is not sure if he’s agent made a mistake or ircc was suspicious with his transcript. So it’s confusing as hell.

@Hehee being an unregistered IRCC agent doesn't buy any credit from my end. It's another way of skirting the system, so please don't promote it. Get registered and then provide your services.

I think it's pretty clear based on the fact shared by OP that 2-3 other students from the same Univ who used the same agent got the fradulent letter. And another student from the same University who did not use the agent did not get that letter. So based on the limited data we have, that is sufficient proof that the agent is part of the problem.

 

[Hehee]

@Hehee being an unregistered IRCC agent doesn't buy any credit from my end. It's another way of skirting the system, so please don't promote it. Get registered and then provide your services.

I think it's pretty clear based on the fact shared by OP that 2-3 other students from the same Univ who used the same agent got the fradulent letter. And another student from the same University who did not use the agent did not get that letter. So based on the limited data we have, that is sufficient proof that the agent is part of the problem.

I am not promoting anything. Plus you do know that you have to be Canadian to become registered and a lot of Indian consultant who run these kind of fraud are not only registered but have never even went to Canada but still people use them as people have less knowledge or can’t afford to use a registered consultant. Unfortunately you can’t change that.
I am saying there is a chance but not to much he’s agent might have provided genuine now he has to do some digging to proof that is was genuine . But there is still a chance that’s all I am saying as he has a passport stamped that ircc gave him after checking his eligibility. So never say never.

 

[Simba112]

I am not promoting anything. Plus you do know that you have to be Canadian to become registered and a lot of Indian consultant who run these kind of fraud are not only registered but have never even went to Canada but still people use them as people have less knowledge or can’t afford to use a registered consultant. Unfortunately you can’t change that.
I am saying there is a chance but not to much he’s agent might have provided genuine now he has to do some digging to proof that is was genuine . But there is still a chance that’s all I am saying as he has a passport stamped that ircc gave him after checking his eligibility. So never say never.

They can cancel counterfoil anytime provided there is misrepresentation. They can even detect it at the Point of Entry and refused you entry to Canada. So dont have confidence once visa is issued then there'll be no action to be taken after. You need to focus in getting the notes or go through JR,

 

[Hehee]

They can cancel counterfoil anytime provided there is misrepresentation. They can even detect it at the Point of Entry and refused you entry to Canada. So dont have confidence once visa is issued then there'll be no action to be taken after. You need to focus in getting the notes or go through JR,

That’s what I said look at my previous posts. He does have a chance for JR. He can’t get the notes he has 9 days left. That’s why I keep saying him to hire a lawyer. Cause it’s not sure if it’s the agent or or IRCC making having suspictions. So this case is a weird one.

 

[hulk358]

Contacted one lawyer about this .forwarded all documents .they are going through all the docs which i have provided and will let me know what they can do .

 

[Simba112]

That’s what I said look at my previous posts. He does have a chance for JR. He can’t get the notes he has 9 days left. That’s why I keep saying him to hire a lawyer. Cause it’s not sure if it’s the agent or or IRCC making having suspictions. So this case is a weird one.

It is not weird one, and it may not the first case under Judicial review. Just to clear that. Minister will make submission and the lawyer will require to, from what i see is IRCC has credible information but other part is not even sure if the agent messed up the situation or it is IRCC error of judgement.... Agent Credibility/Trust in question. Though this may not apply to this case, but some Agent alter grades to increase chances of admission due to high competition. Agent changed grades and submit transcript and geniune Degree Certificate ( Cumulative GPA on Transcript fell outside what was on the Final Certificate, lets say GPA of 4.0 while Certificate shows Lower Second Class)

 

[aspirant256]

Even if one gets citizenship and at any stage, later in life it comes to their notice that fraudulent documents were submitted then they can revoke citizenship and deport.

 

[Simba112]

Even if one gets citizenship and at any stage, later in life it comes to their notice that fraudulent documents were submitted then they can revoke citizenship and deport.

To expand further
Unless if decision to revoke your citizenship will leave you "Stateless". They can also revoke your Citizenship but not necessarily deport you provided you misrepresent when acquiring citizenship. You lose citizenship and become permanent resident and placed for 5years waiting to reapply. But if you became Permanent Resident by Misrep and Acquired Citizen then you lose all and become Foreign Nation...

 

[aspirant256]

To expand further
Unless if decision to revoke your citizenship will leave you "Stateless". They can also revoke your Citizenship but not necessarily deport you provided you misrepresent when acquiring citizenship. You lose citizenship and become permanent resident and placed for 5years waiting to reapply. But if you became Permanent Resident by Misrep and Acquired Citizen then you lose all and become Foreign Nation...

For a student it starts with a study permit, so a study permit is obtained with misrepresentation and caught up later when the person becomes PR/citizen takes back to the initial status.

I read that as a pilot project IRCC reopened several cases using AI to detect misrepresentation and then proceeded with banning them.

 

[GandiBaat]

2-its a deemed well known university ( two of other student is facing same issue with the same university)

Sorry to butt in but is this a Central University? State University? OR a Private University. I can understand your hesitation but if you want folks to help you, you need to be more specific. For Centra and State university, its pretty easy: They have cells dealing with this in admin staff. Also, for those who are wondering, "deemed-university" is a technical term from India which means that evaluation done by one of the government bodies (AICTE/UGC etc) have "deemed" a instituiton of learning to be a university. It means, there is some paper work still going on but it will not impede the university to issue degrees.
There are private universities that are "deemed" this way OR even central government (equivalent to federal in US/Canada sense) which have or at time had this status. For all practical purposes "deemed" means it is a university.

1-right originally i havent apostile the document as I didn't find any necessity.

Apostile from India is kind of weird. AFAIK, it carries very less weight and embassies of Germany at-least have their own verification methods for "true copies" or verifying documents/employers etc. I am not 100% sure about Canada. My wife submitted her documents (degree/transcripts) from a state govt. university and they were fine.

4- by multiple lawyers i mean 3 to 4 lawyers they told me that once you got visa its rate for them to reopen the file . And there isnt much you can do to satisfy them its upto them .if they want to consider your documents valid or not.

Just to be sure, were they Lawyers or Registered Immigration Consultants? A lawyer will atleast look at this situation from the point of view of PFL and later a JR. I can understand that you may not want to disclose your discussions a lot, but just be sure you are talking to REAL lawyers and not consultants here. NO lawyer worth his salt will suggest what you are talking.

5- they just mentioned that specifically transcript have been found fraudulent . I asked my college to give me declaration about in this regard on their latter pad with their stamps .i also submitted that document . And rather than MEA apostille i dnt know how to prove authenticity of the document.

More than anything else; do one thing. Get a card or something of the person signing the document -- with their official contact number and email. Also try and make sure they are also listed on your university's website so they can be verified. You need to establish the entire chain of trust here.

 

[GandiBaat]

Through agent .

Thats one MORE complexity. Did he submitted the documents that you gave or something else altogether?

 

[GandiBaat]

Even if one gets citizenship and at any stage, later in life it comes to their notice that fraudulent documents were submitted then they can revoke citizenship and deport.

Offtopic:
While the spirit of this answer is right, let me be a bit clear here: It is exceedingly rare and generally H&C considerations prevent such from happening. Lastly, verbetim, the law says : any misrepresentation in citizenship or underlying PR application. I do not know if this has been tested in court but say if you made a mis-representation in another non-PR appliation, what will happen. None of it means lying or fraud on your immigration application is acceptable in ANY KIND. It will get you in trouble in many many ways -- including rendering you stateless.

 

[GandiBaat]

Right the main issue stands here . I mean i studied my a"" off there and they say its fraudulent. How can this happen. Even though i passed background chek got admission and got visa and got passport stamped. Now suddenly they feel only transcript is fraudulent . They didn't even gave me any reason on which bases they state it is fraudulent. I am seriously pissed off with this. And i asked my agent 100 times if he did smthng with the transcript or what . And he sayss no no no . So its like nightmare for me . I got admsn got visa chek got passport stamped and then got this may be inadmissible .

Get those GCMS notes right away! You need to know whats going on. Ask @legalfalcon for how to get them. Also I will recommend to take his service in analysing them, though it is up to you. AFAIK, he is a proper lawyer based out of Canada. Ask him if he can order the complete file (including attachments) to see what the hell is going on with you application.

 

[GandiBaat]

As long as i know he didnt morphed any document but me and my friend who applied through same agent are facing this issue one other friend of mine submitted file through other agent and havent had any issue till date . So mostly its something fisshy with the agent .

It could be worse! He could have taken YOUR document and adjusted it for 10 more people. NEVER use a non-registered agent. NEVER.