Years of experience to declare for EE
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There are two separate purposes regarding disclosing work experiences in an EE application. a) You claim work experiences for CRS points in order to get invited for immigration application. b) you are required to disclose personal history (work, study, unemployment, etc) in the past 10 years or since you were 18 once your application starts
1. If you are applying for EE, you need to maximize your CRS points, which are partially determined by your number of years of work experience claimed under 'employment section'. For these claimed experiences you will need to provide solid PROOF in form of detailed work references from employers, pay slips, etc. The requirements on these references are very specific, therefore it's very likely you can't use the ones you already have. That means you will need to get them from your past employers, and some people find it difficult. That said, in your case you might not have to claim points from older employments since your 5.5 years (supported by solid proof) from current job (foreign employment) will already maximize your CRS points. If that's the case, you don't need to show your previous jobs under 'EMPLOYMENT' section because you won't claim CRS points from them.
2. Furthermore, when you are filling out your application, you will come across to a section called 'personal history', it's where you need to disclose your personal details in the past 10 years (or since you were 18). You will have to give details of your previously employments in this section. You won't need to provide proof for these employments though as long as they are not listed under 'Employment' section.
1. If you are applying for EE, you need to maximize your CRS points, which are partially determined by your number of years of work experience claimed under 'employment section'. For these claimed experiences you will need to provide solid PROOF in form of detailed work references from employers, pay slips, etc. The requirements on these references are very specific, therefore it's very likely you can't use the ones you already have. That means you will need to get them from your past employers, and some people find it difficult. That said, in your case you might not have to claim points from older employments since your 5.5 years (supported by solid proof) from current job (foreign employment) will already maximize your CRS points. If that's the case, you don't need to show your previous jobs under 'EMPLOYMENT' section because you won't claim CRS points from them.
2. Furthermore, when you are filling out your application, you will come across to a section called 'personal history', it's where you need to disclose your personal details in the past 10 years (or since you were 18). You will have to give details of your previously employments in this section. You won't need to provide proof for these employments though as long as they are not listed under 'Employment' section.
No need for payslips if reference letter covers all info. the only thing cic requires for proof of experience is clearly stated on the website:There are two separate purposes regarding disclosing work experiences in an EE application. a) You claim work experiences for CRS points in order to get invited for immigration application. b) you are required to disclose personal history (work, study, unemployment, etc) in the past 10 years or since you were 18 once your application starts
1. If you are applying for EE, you need to maximize your CRS points, which are partially determined by your number of years of work experience claimed under 'employment section'. For these claimed experiences you will need to provide solid PROOF in form of detailed work references from employers, pay slips, etc. The requirements on these references are very specific, therefore it's very likely you can't use the ones you already have. That means you will need to get them from your past employers, and some people find it difficult. That said, in your case you might not have to claim points from older employments since your 5.5 years (supported by solid proof) from current job (foreign employment) will already maximize your CRS points. If that's the case, you don't need to show your previous jobs under 'EMPLOYMENT' section because you won't claim CRS points from them.
2. Furthermore, when you are filling out your application, you will come across to a section called 'personal history', it's where you need to disclose your personal details in the past 10 years (or since you were 18). You will have to give details of your previously employments in this section. You won't need to provide proof for these employments though as long as they are not listed under 'Employment' section.
The following documents are mandatory for each work experience declared:
- a reference or experience letter from the employer, which
- should be an official document printed on company letterhead (must include the applicant’s name, the company’s contact information [address, telephone number and email address], and the name, title and signature of the immediate supervisor or personnel officer at the company),
- should indicate all positions held while employed at the company and must include the following details: job title, duties and responsibilities, job status (if current job), dates worked for the company, number of work hours per week and annual salary plus benefits; and
- if the applicant is self-employed, articles of incorporation or other evidence of business ownership, evidence of self-employment income and documentation from third-party individuals indicating the service provided along with payment details (self-declared main duties or affidavits are not acceptable proof of self-employed work experience).
True - pay slips are not required, but they will certainly add to the credibility. It's the good to have kind of document.No need for payslips if reference letter covers all info. the only thing cic requires for proof of experience is clearly stated on the website:
The following documents are mandatory for each work experience declared:
- a reference or experience letter from the employer, which
- should be an official document printed on company letterhead (must include the applicant’s name, the company’s contact information [address, telephone number and email address], and the name, title and signature of the immediate supervisor or personnel officer at the company),
- should indicate all positions held while employed at the company and must include the following details: job title, duties and responsibilities, job status (if current job), dates worked for the company, number of work hours per week and annual salary plus benefits; and
- if the applicant is self-employed, articles of incorporation or other evidence of business ownership, evidence of self-employment income and documentation from third-party individuals indicating the service provided along with payment details (self-declared main duties or affidavits are not acceptable proof of self-employed work experience).
yes but due to posts like this, people are panicking because they don't have their payslips, so always clarify it's NOT a requirement as long as start and end salaries are listed in the reference letter.True - pay slips are not required, but they will certainly add to the credibility. It's the good to have kind of document.
If you read my post with a less condescending mind you would notice I was describing 'solid proof'. It was different from 'just proof'. The purpose for a solid proof is to reduce the possibility of being rejected by IRCC. It was totally different from just passing the hurdles.yes but due to posts like this, people are panicking because they don't have their payslips, so always clarify it's NOT a requirement as long as start and end salaries are listed in the reference letter.
If my advise was just follow the minimum requirement what do we need this forum for? We can just send around the IRCC instructions and tell people to read it. When I give advice to other people I was thinking about how to help people prepare applications the best way possible. Sure the employment letter alone is the only one that's explicitly required by IRCC, but would you advise a newbie who doesn't know anything about the process just go with just bare minimum? Would you submit just one letter in your own application? Also take a look into the reality before you stating the obvious and play safe with the advice. How often does it happen that applicants just use one single letter to prove working experience? In most cases people do submit pay slips if they have them.
And stop worrying about people panicking. They are adults. If they panic the instance they read my post, they will won't survive the entire application process very well.
It's the post like yours makes people less willing to share experience and advice to others and turns this forum into a less helpful one.
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Jesus take a breather! Yes I only sent my letter of experience and so did many people. I see you only have 100 posts on this forum so once you spend more time on her you'll realize how much confusion there is and how many misunderstandings happen from someone reading "something somewhere" and it happened to me as well.If you read my post with a less condescending mind you would notice I was describing 'solid proof'. It was different from 'just proof'. The purpose for a solid proof is to reduce the possibility of being rejected by IRCC. It was totally different from just passing the hurdles.
If my advise was just follow the minimum requirement what do we need this forum for? We can just send around the IRCC instructions and tell people to read it. When I give advice to other people I was thinking about how to help people prepare applications the best way possible. Sure the employment letter alone is the only one that's explicitly required by IRCC, but would you advise a newbie who doesn't know anything about the process just go with just bare minimum? Would you submit just one letter in your own application? Also take a look into the reality before you stating the obvious and play safe with the advice. How often does it happen that applicants just use one single letter to prove working experience? In most cases people do submit pay slips if they have them.
And stop worrying about people panicking. They are adults. If they panic the instance they read my post, they will won't survive the entire application process very well.
It's the post like yours makes people less willing to share experience and advice to others and turns this forum into a less helpful one.
Yes sometimes sending more information that is required can be harmful, and no, you send more proof when your information is shaky. Why would you send information that's already proven? And not it's not just the bare minimum these are THE requirements, a person with common sense would know when it would be more helpful for documentation to be sent and when not. And yes they come to the forum when they're in doubt, and you can't advise them with requirements that do not exist.
If you feel I'm being condescending again, my apologies in advance.
Okay, climb off your senior high horse and stop talking like having 1,000 posts is a life time achievement and warrants your superiority. There are more than hundreds of people who have posted ten times more than yours. You are not even a VIP. Since you are the one who actually picked two words from my two paragraphs of comments and decided that I was misleading the OP, I am not going to back down and take your fake apologies.Jesus take a breather! Yes I only sent my letter of experience and so did many people. I see you only have 100 posts on this forum so once you spend more time on her you'll realize how much confusion there is and how many misunderstandings happen from someone reading "something somewhere" and it happened to me as well.
Yes sometimes sending more information that is required can be harmful, and no, you send more proof when your information is shaky. Why would you send information that's already proven? And not it's not just the bare minimum these are THE requirements, a person with common sense would know when it would be more helpful for documentation to be sent and when not. And yes they come to the forum when they're in doubt, and you can't advise them with requirements that do not exist.
If you feel I'm being condescending again, my apologies in advance.
Let's not generalize what I meant. Of course I know attaching unnecessary documents is a total waste of efforts and time, and sometimes risky. However, we are talking about pay slips here. Did I tell OP that he has to have payslips? I was explaining what 'solid proof' could be. If you care to search the forum, you will see millions of posts that people mentioned that they actually attach their payslips and another million that explain the basic requirements. Do you really think attaching payslips is harmful to an application? Is this your statement? If yes, state it here and let's keep record on the forum.
Finally, a simple yes and no question, and it will be very helpful to OP, who we don't know anything about (hypothetically he could be working for a small firm that nobody ever hears of) - are you recommending OP only use the employment letter as reference? Yes or No? Leave your record here.
I am not interested in how you feel about my qualification of giving advice to other applicants. You are flattering yourself if you think I am.
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Oh wow. Alright then let me clarify one thing, I'm not referring to the number of posts in a seniority sense. The longer you stay on the forum, the longer you'll realize people panicking is way more common than you think, I thought that was clear in my previous post.Okay, climb off your high horse like a 'senior' and stop talking like having 1,000 posts is a life time achievement and warrants your superiority. There are more than hundreds of people who have posted ten times more than yours. You are not even a VIP. Since you are the one who actually picked two words from my two paragraphs of comments and decided that I was misleading the OP, I am not going to back down and take your fake apologies.
Let's not generalize what I meant. Of course I know attaching unnecessary documents is a total waste of efforts and time, and sometimes risky. However, we are talking about pay slips here. Did I tell OP that he has to have payslips? I was explaining what 'solid proof' could be. If you care to search the forum, you will see millions of posts that people mentioned that they actually attach their payslips and another million that explain the basic requirements. Do you really think attaching payslips is harmful to an application? Is this your statement? If yes, state it here and let's keep record on the forum.
Finally, a simple yes and no question, and it will be very helpful to OP, who we don't know anything about (hypothetically he could be working for a small firm that nobody ever hears of) - are you recommending OP only use the employment letter as reference? Yes or No? Leave your record here.
I am not interested in how you feel about my qualification of giving advice to other applicants. You are flattering yourself if you think I am.
This whole thing started because I added to your initial post saying pay slips aren't a requirement and a letter of employment covering what is requested by CIC would suffice? And that it should just be made clear that pay slips aren't a requirement but can be attached? Just like uploading wes isn't a requirement bit can be uploaded. I do not understand why you're overreacting. This was all making it clear was it required and what is "an extra"
Anyways I'm not interested in hijacking the OP's post anymore.
Good luck for the rest!
If people are not panicking once in a while when they prepare the applications, they are not preparing hard enough.Oh wow. Alright then let me clarify one thing, I'm not referring to the number of posts in a seniority sense. The longer you stay on the forum, the longer you'll realize people panicking is way more common than you think, I thought that was clear in my previous post.
This whole thing started because I added to your initial post saying pay slips aren't a requirement and a letter of employment covering what is requested by CIC would suffice? And that it should just be made clear that pay slips aren't a requirement but can be attached? Just like uploading wes isn't a requirement bit can be uploaded. I do not understand why you're overreacting. This was all making it clear was it required and what is "an extra"
Anyways I'm not interested in hijacking the OP's post anymore.
Good luck for the rest!
The whole thing started when you slipped in a cheap shot implying that my post was misleading the OP. Did I not agree with you that the pay slips are not mandatory on my post next to your first one, even though I was not explaining the minimum requirements to OP to begin with? You invented a fault of my doing and tried to feel good about pointing it out. I was trying to help OP better prepare while you just dance around being a IRCC minimum requirement nazi about it.
OP - I hope with these heated debates help you better understand what you need to do. Again, work reference letters are specifically required as proof of work experience by IRCC, but many people would attach other supporting documents such as pay slips, contracts, etc, to increase credibility. It's really up to you whether to attach these supporting documents, and you take your own risk if you choose not to. Also, read as much as possible on this forum about it.
Out.
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There are two separate purposes regarding disclosing work experiences in an EE application. a) You claim work experiences for CRS points in order to get invited for immigration application. b) you are required to disclose personal history (work, study, unemployment, etc) in the past 10 years or since you were 18 once your application starts
1. If you are applying for EE, you need to maximize your CRS points, which are partially determined by your number of years of work experience claimed under 'employment section'. For these claimed experiences you will need to provide solid PROOF in form of detailed work references from employers, pay slips, etc. The requirements on these references are very specific, therefore it's very likely you can't use the ones you already have. That means you will need to get them from your past employers, and some people find it difficult. That said, in your case you might not have to claim points from older employments since your 5.5 years (supported by solid proof) from current job (foreign employment) will already maximize your CRS points. If that's the case, you don't need to show your previous jobs under 'EMPLOYMENT' section because you won't claim CRS points from them.
2. Furthermore, when you are filling out your application, you will come across to a section called 'personal history', it's where you need to disclose your personal details in the past 10 years (or since you were 18). You will have to give details of your previously employments in this section. You won't need to provide proof for these employments though as long as they are not listed under 'Employment' section.
No worries. Work History is the right section. It's where you claim for employment points.Hi Dannyhcean,
Thank you for the clarification.
While filling the EE application , I have come across "WORK HISTORY" under that I have filled 5.5 yrs of experience in total. But not seen EMPLOYMENT section,please elaborate.