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Would this be considered a "bad faith" marriage?

lovelockdown

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My partner and I have been seeing each other since February 2019. He is an international student and we met here in Canada. I am a graduate student and native-born Canadian citizen. We are in our early/mid 20s. My partner started living with me informally in September of last year, and formally became my long-term guest May of this year. Altogether we have cohabited for more than a year, but on paper we could probably only prove that we have lived together since May. There are a couple of his phone bills and bank statements that have our address on them from before that. We don't take a lot of pictures or post a lot about our relationship on social media, but we do still have some pictures taken over the past year and a half. We have plenty of messages I could screenshot to prove the length and the nature of our relationship.

I won't go into specifics for the sake of anonymity, but he is in a precarious visa situation. It seems like his inland study permit renewal application, which we submitted almost a year ago, is just ... lost. He's on implied status right now. Legally he can't work or study right now. If he had to go back to his home country there's no knowing when he could come back, especially because conflict has recently broken out there. We were planning sponsorship long before the conflict started, but unfortunately the coincidence might increase the level of stigma his country of origin would carry for the people judging our case.

We could try waiting til May 2021 to do a common-law sponsorship application, but I don't want to wait 7 months to start the process when, at any time, he could lose his implied status and need to leave Canada. We are now considering getting married so that we can start an inland application sooner. Edit: Although we will not have a "real" ceremony til after lockdown, my immediate family will attend our City Hall ceremony, so we can prove that we have the support of my family. His family know about our relationship and support it, but since travel in either direction is near-impossible at this time, we will wait til after COVID to have a ceremony they can participate in.

We were already in each other's life plans for a long time before we considered marriage. Whether or not we end up getting married now, we want to get married someday. We would have no problem proving that we had a genuine romantic relationship prior to the marriage, and we would have no problem proving that we intend to live together as a married couple after getting married. What I am worried about is whether my sponsorship application would be rejected because our marriage would be interpreted as having been undertaken primarily for the purpose of him getting PR status. It is true that, if we got married now, it would be for the purpose of staying together ... is that really "bad faith"? We would prefer to handle the application ourselves rather than paying $5000 for a lawyer or consultant, but I feel like so much could go wrong in the way we present our relationship to the government. We live in Toronto so I am worried that our visa office must see bad faith marriage cases all the time and that they will be very skeptical of us.

It's very hard to find information about our specific kind of situation. If anybody has any advice, or relevant experiences they could share, I would be very grateful.

Edit: Another necessary piece of information is that, while on implied status, he did work "under the table" (part-time, not FT) to support himself. I know that we are likely to be asked by the visa office how I, as a student, managed to support him for over a year while he was unable to work. I have been providing support from my savings and from my work earnings, but he wasn't relying solely on my support. Lying is out of the question for me because I know it would have terrible consequences, but I don't know how to tell the truth without jeopardizing our application.
 
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scylla

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Jun 8, 2010
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My partner and I have been seeing each other since February 2019. He is an international student and we met here in Canada. I am a graduate student and native-born Canadian citizen. We are in our early/mid 20s. My partner started living with me informally in September of last year, and formally became my long-term guest May of this year. Altogether we have cohabited for more than a year, but on paper we could probably only prove that we have lived together since May. There are a couple of his phone bills and bank statements that have our address on them from before that. We don't take a lot of pictures or post a lot about our relationship on social media, but we do still have some pictures taken over the past year and a half. We have plenty of messages I could screenshot to prove the length and the nature of our relationship.

I won't go into specifics for the sake of anonymity, but he is in a precarious visa situation. It seems like his inland study permit renewal application, which we submitted almost a year ago, is just ... lost. He's on implied status right now. Legally he can't work or study right now. If he had to go back to his home country there's no knowing when he could come back, especially because conflict has recently broken out there. We were planning sponsorship long before the conflict started, but unfortunately the coincidence might increase the level of stigma his country of origin would carry for the people judging our case.

We could try waiting til May 2021 to do a common-law sponsorship application, but I don't want to wait 7 months to start the process when, at any time, he could lose his implied status and need to leave Canada. We are now considering getting married so that we can start an inland application sooner. Edit: Although we will not have a "real" ceremony til after lockdown, my immediate family will attend our City Hall ceremony, so we can prove that we have the support of my family. His family know about our relationship and support it, but since travel in either direction is near-impossible at this time, we will wait til after COVID to have a ceremony they can participate in.

We were already in each other's life plans for a long time before we considered marriage. Whether or not we end up getting married now, we want to get married someday. We would have no problem proving that we had a genuine romantic relationship prior to the marriage, and we would have no problem proving that we intend to live together as a married couple after getting married. What I am worried about is whether my sponsorship application would be rejected because our marriage would be interpreted as having been undertaken primarily for the purpose of him getting PR status. It is true that, if we got married now, it would be for the purpose of staying together ... is that really "bad faith"? We would prefer to handle the application ourselves rather than paying $5000 for a lawyer or consultant, but I feel like so much could go wrong in the way we present our relationship to the government. We live in Toronto so I am worried that our visa office must see bad faith marriage cases all the time and that they will be very skeptical of us.

It's very hard to find information about our specific kind of situation. If anybody has any advice, or relevant experiences they could share, I would be very grateful.

Edit: Another necessary piece of information is that, while on implied status, he did work "under the table" (part-time, not FT) to support himself. I know that we are likely to be asked by the visa office how I, as a student, managed to support him for over a year while he was unable to work. I have been providing support from my savings and from my work earnings, but he wasn't relying solely on my support. Lying is out of the question for me because I know it would have terrible consequences, but I don't know how to tell the truth without jeopardizing our application.
IMO you are fine to get married now. You're in a real relationship and I don't see anything "bad faith" about this. Have your parents attend. Explain that his parents couldn't travel due to COVID-19 and you also couldn't have a large ceremony / reception due to COVID-19 (but plan to do so later). This is happening to lots of people right now and won't be at all unusual. Apply as married and indicated you effectively started living together September last year. Provide what evidence you can to show cohabitation (less important since you won't be applying as common law). Make sure he declares the illegal work. Illegal work is forgiven in spousal sponsorship applications. Worst case scenario it might cause IRCC to look at bit more closely at your application - but that shouldn't be an issue if you have strong relationship proof + are married. Not declaring the illegal work has the potential to result in misrepresentation which could risk a 5 year ban. You definitely don't want to chance that.
 
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lovelockdown

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Oct 19, 2020
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IMO you are fine to get married now. You're in a real relationship and I don't see anything "bad faith" about this. Have your parents attend. Explain that his parents couldn't travel due to COVID-19 and you also couldn't have a large ceremony / reception due to COVID-19 (but plan to do so later). This is happening to lots of people right now and won't be at all unusual. Apply as married and indicated you effectively started living together September last year. Provide what evidence you can to show cohabitation (less important since you won't be applying as common law). Make sure he declares the illegal work. Illegal work is forgiven in spousal sponsorship applications. Worst case scenario it might cause IRCC to look at bit more closely at your application - but that shouldn't be an issue if you have strong relationship proof + are married. Not declaring the illegal work has the potential to result in misrepresentation which could risk a 5 year ban. You definitely don't want to chance that.
Thank you so much for your response.

Another question: we are really confused about which family members of my partner need to get medical checks and need to be declared on the form. It seems like only dependent family members like a spouse, children and grandchildren need to do so (whether or not they're coming to Canada), but we are worried because in other places it just says that "family members" need to provide those documents. His parents and sister are asking if they need to get police checks and request birth certificates from their government (which would probably be a long, drawn-out, expensive process).
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
93,856
21,038
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Thank you so much for your response.

Another question: we are really confused about which family members of my partner need to get medical checks and need to be declared on the form. It seems like only dependent family members like a spouse, children and grandchildren need to do so (whether or not they're coming to Canada), but we are worried because in other places it just says that "family members" need to provide those documents. His parents and sister are asking if they need to get police checks and request birth certificates from their government (which would probably be a long, drawn-out, expensive process).
Just children under 22 years old (if he has any).