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Worry about validity of work experience

Quentin1953

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Mar 9, 2017
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Hi,

I know that in order to claim points for the one year of Canadian work experience, that work experience must have been obtain legally in Canada, i.e. with a valid work permit.

However, while I was working under a work permit, I also took some language courses now and then. At most once a week, couple of hours, for a couple of months at a time. No certificate obtained. I had honestly thought this was allowed by my work permit (especially since I know that you cannot obtain a study permit for just these courses), as it was occasional, irregular, short term, and, imo not 'academic, professional or vocational training course'. Now I realize this may not be the case and taking these language courses without a proper study permit may have been, in fact, illegal.

I have two very important questions:

1) Was it in fact illegal?

2) Since I took those courses while on my work permit, assuming it was illegal to do so, does this invalidate all the work experience that I obtained under that work permit (for the sake of counting points)? i.e. Since I breached the terms of my work permit then, would CIC consider that this work permit was terminated at the moment I started taking courses illegally, and therefore, any work performed after I started taking these courses was itself illegal and not-elligible for CEC?


I'm starting to worry very much about this. Question 2) I'm especially worried about. Even if the answer to 1) is negative, if anyone has some information that could help answer this, I would be much grateful!
 

chelseafc99

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Nov 9, 2015
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Quentin1953 said:
Hi,

I know that in order to claim points for the one year of Canadian work experience, that work experience must have been obtain legally in Canada, i.e. with a valid work permit.

However, while I was working under a work permit, I also took some language courses now and then. At most once a week, couple of hours, for a couple of months at a time. No certificate obtained. I had honestly thought this was allowed by my work permit (especially since I know that you cannot obtain a study permit for just these courses), as it was occasional, irregular, short term, and, imo not 'academic, professional or vocational training course'. Now I realize this may not be the case and taking these language courses without a proper study permit may have been, in fact, illegal.

I have two very important questions:

1) Was it in fact illegal?

2) Since I took those courses while on my work permit, assuming it was illegal to do so, does this invalidate all the work experience that I obtained under that work permit (for the sake of counting points)? i.e. Since I breached the terms of my work permit then, would CIC consider that this work permit was terminated at the moment I started taking courses illegally, and therefore, any work performed after I started taking these courses was itself illegal and not-elligible for CEC?


I'm starting to worry very much about this. Question 2) I'm especially worried about. Even if the answer to 1) is negative, if anyone has some information that could help answer this, I would be much grateful!
Why do you have to show to CIC that you took these language courses?
You are not getting any CRS points for these correct?
Also the courses you took are not from a designated learning institute so why go through the hassle of adding these courses to your profile?
 

Quentin1953

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Mar 9, 2017
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You hit the nail on the head.

I don't want to add them to my profile, you are right. i'm not claiming any points for it or any such thing.

I had anticipated to mention having taking such courses in the letter of explanation. Couldn't it be considered misrepresentation if I don't disclose an activity which I think may have voided my status at the time I took them?

I also would rather just omit it, as, frankly, nowhere in the application I am asked about such an activity.
 

pid91

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Feb 7, 2017
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You do not have to worry at all.

This is not even a problem. Just do not disclose it. CIC is not doing any background check on you without any criminal record.

Even if they do, trying to get some extra education is not going to be counted as negative.

So, you have 2 options and both are fine.

1) Do not mention it at all.
2) Mention it and explain in Letter of explanation
.
 

s23srinivas

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Jul 27, 2015
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Quentin1953 said:
Anyone else with some ideas about this?

Thanks!
If you know that one cannot obtain a study permit for just these courses as it was occasional, irregular, short term, and, not academic, professional or vocational training course then it cannot be termed as illegal activity.
I would treat it as activities of fun, leisure, entertainment and for personal development.

Another point I would like to make is to follow the KISS (keep it short and simple) approach while applying. Do not provide unnecessary additional or/and incomplete information in the application. Just give them what is asked for. IF they require more they will ask for more.
As far as I can say, the officers checking the application do not fail the application just at whims and fancies of their's. Canada requires lots of immigrated workers and they are welcome here.

Having been there and done that, I see this just as the initial nervousness about the PR process.
You will be alright. Don't worry and best luck with your application.
 

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Quentin1953 said:
1) Was it in fact illegal?

No, not illegal. Completely unnecessary to worry about this one : )