Working remotely for a CA company

[scoobyscoobydoo]

Hey,
I couldnt quite find a post for my circumstances.
I am applying for a 2 year working holiday visa. I have no intention of trying to become a perm resident or citizen after the 2 year working visa.
Can I work remotely for a Canadian company? Can I get the visa, start working remotely for a Canadian company and then live in the USA? (I would do 3 month tourist visa stints in USA)
I am Australian by the way.

Thanks

 

[Naturgrl]

Hey,
I couldnt quite find a post for my circumstances.
I am applying for a 2 year working holiday visa. I have no intention of trying to become a perm resident or citizen after the 2 year working visa.
Can I work remotely for a Canadian company? Can I get the visa, start working remotely for a Canadian company and then live in the USA? (I would do 3 month tourist visa stints in USA)
I am Australian by the way.

Thanks

You don’t need a working holiday visa if you plan to work remotely and not live in Canada. Are you going to be living in Canada at all. You will have to check US immigration rules about working remotely.

 

[Copingwithlife]

Hey,
I couldnt quite find a post for my circumstances.
I am applying for a 2 year working holiday visa. I have no intention of trying to become a perm resident or citizen after the 2 year working visa.
Can I work remotely for a Canadian company? Can I get the visa, start working remotely for a Canadian company and then live in the USA? (I would do 3 month tourist visa stints in USA)
I am Australian by the way.

Thanks

Believe you’re getting confused with moving on a TN to the USA. You’re Australian, you are not eligible. Btw you’re not allowed to work in the USA on a tourist visa . You do that and you can get removed from the USA & banned.
Work remotely from where ? Australia ?
Within Canada ? USA ?
You’re Australian, explore the E-3 visa

If you’re going to be in the USA, and on a ESTA , you want to be aware of the maximum time you’re allowed in the USA. Going to either Canada, Mexico does not restart your 90 day clock . You attempt that and you can kiss your vwp goodbye and you’ll have to apply for a B1/B2 which is EXTREMELY difficult next to impossible to get if they think you've abused your ESTA

“If you are admitted to the United States under the VWP, you may take a short trip to Canada, Mexico, or a nearby island and generally be readmitted to the United States under the VWP for the remainder of the original 90 days granted upon your initial arrival in the United States. Therefore, the length of time of your total stay, including the short trip, must be 90 days or less. See the CBP website. Citizens of VWP countries* who reside in Mexico, Canada, or a nearby island are generally exempted from the requirement to show onward travel to another country* when entering the United States. Learn more on the CBP website.”

Google Australians deported from the USA.
Unlike Canadian immigration, the Americans do not play games

 

[scylla]

Hey,
I couldnt quite find a post for my circumstances.
I am applying for a 2 year working holiday visa. I have no intention of trying to become a perm resident or citizen after the 2 year working visa.
Can I work remotely for a Canadian company? Can I get the visa, start working remotely for a Canadian company and then live in the USA? (I would do 3 month tourist visa stints in USA)
I am Australian by the way.

Thanks

Short answer? No, absolutely not.

You will not be able to live or work in the US. Trying to do this as a visitor will be a violation of the terms of your stay as a visitor and you can expect to have issues entering the US. If the US thinks you are living and working there without authorization, you'll be at risk of a ban and no longer qualify to enter the US under an ESTA. Tread very carefully.

 

[scoobyscoobydoo]

You don’t need a working holiday visa if you plan to work remotely and not live in Canada. Are you going to be living in Canada at all. You will have to check US immigration rules about working remotely.

I don't understand this. As an Australian, I can work remotely for an Canadian company with no visa? Get a Candian bank account etc etc.

 

[Naturgrl]

I don't understand this. As an Australian, I can work remotely for an Canadian company with no visa? Get a Candian bank account etc etc.

So are you working in Canada or not when you say working remotely for a Canadian company? Where are you working for this Canadian company - Australia, US, Canada? If not working in Canada, you don’t need a Canadian work visa.

 

[scoobyscoobydoo]

Believe you’re getting confused with moving on a TN to the USA. You’re Australian, you are not eligible. Btw you’re not allowed to work in the USA on a tourist visa . You do that and you can get removed from the USA & banned.
Work remotely from where ? Australia ?
Within Canada ? USA ?
You’re Australian, explore the E-3 visa

If you’re going to be in the USA, and on a ESTA , you want to be aware of the maximum time you’re allowed in the USA. Going to either Canada, Mexico does not restart your 90 day clock . You attempt that and you can kiss your vwp goodbye and you’ll have to apply for a B1/B2 which is EXTREMELY difficult next to impossible to get if they think you've abused your ESTA

“If you are admitted to the United States under the VWP, you may take a short trip to Canada, Mexico, or a nearby island and generally be readmitted to the United States under the VWP for the remainder of the original 90 days granted upon your initial arrival in the United States. Therefore, the length of time of your total stay, including the short trip, must be 90 days or less. See the CBP website. Citizens of VWP countries* who reside in Mexico, Canada, or a nearby island are generally exempted from the requirement to show onward travel to another country* when entering the United States. Learn more on the CBP website.”

Google Australians deported from the USA.
Unlike Canadian immigration, the Americans do not play games

Well the plan was get Canadian working holiday visa, work remotely for a candian company and then for example do a few months in USA, few months in Mexico, few months in brazil, etc etc. Not so much just live full time in the states.

I have looked into the e-3 before but I don't have a degree from university. I got into tech, taught myself to code, have been working in tech for 8 years now. Highly skilled but no degree. I assumed it was not possible without degree. I also assumed tech isn't a speciality occupation as there would be no shortage of tech skill in the US. Am I wrong? Is E-3 easier than I had assumed to get?

Thanks Copingwithlife

 

[scoobyscoobydoo]

So are you working in Canada or not when you say working remotely for a Canadian company? Where are you working for this Canadian company - Australia, US, Canada? If not working in Canada, you don’t need a Canadian work visa.

Sorry I will clarify. Work remotely for a Canadian company NOT living in Canada. So I would travel and work remotely around Latin America and the USA.
The reason being time zone, I cant work for an Australia company because of the time zone difference.

 

[scylla]

Sorry I will clarify. Work remotely for a Canadian company NOT living in Canada. So I would travel and work remotely around Latin America and the USA.
The reason being time zone, I cant work for an Australia company because of the time zone difference.

The US is generally not OK with this. I would avoid doing this so that you don't jeopardize future travel there. The US is wound pretty tight when it comes to stuff like this.

Counties in Latin America are probably fine. Of course you'll have to make sure the Canadian company is good with remote work and remote work from those jurisdictions.

 

[scoobyscoobydoo]

The US is generally not OK with this. I would avoid doing this so that you don't jeopardize future travel there. The US is wound pretty tight when it comes to stuff like this.

Counties in Latin America are probably fine. Of course you'll have to make sure the Canadian company is good with remote work and remote work from those jurisdictions.

Hi Scylla,

That was my thinking. Latin American countries much more laid back, these countries are full of remote workers. USA potentially more tricky, but if I limit it to a month here and there it would be ok (it would actually be travel).

My main question, however, is can I do it from the Canadian working holiday visa perspective? I read all the websites and they don't really mention working remotely at all, let alone working remotely outside of Canada.
Is there anything that says, on a Canadian working holiday visa the person must reside in the Canada? They mention reentry when I leave Canada. They say yes, you can leave and reenter, but you will be assessed each time, which is ok. But this is just physically leaving and reentering, it says nothing about working outside of Canada. I could go Canada on the working visa, set up bank account, leave for latin America and not come back, not even worry about reentry.

 

[Naturgrl]

Hi Scylla,

That was my thinking. Latin American countries much more laid back, these countries are full of remote workers. USA potentially more tricky, but if I limit it to a month here and there it would be ok (it would actually be travel).

My main question, however, is can I do it from the Canadian working holiday visa perspective? I read all the websites and they don't really mention working remotely at all, let alone working remotely outside of Canada.
Is there anything that says, on a Canadian working holiday visa the person must reside in the Canada? They mention reentry when I leave Canada. They say yes, you can leave and reenter, but you will be assessed each time, which is ok. But this is just physically leaving and reentering, it says nothing about working outside of Canada. I could go Canada on the working visa, set up bank account, leave for latin America and not come back, not even worry about reentry.

If you are not planning on working in Canada at all, and working remotely for a Canadian employer then you do not need a working holiday visa. You don’t need a Canadian bank account. Employer pays you to your Australian bank account.

 

[Ponga]

Not really sure that I should even be commenting, since this is not an area that I've followed much, but...

https://moving2canada.com/immigration/iec/working-holiday-visa-in-canada

Eligibility:

To be eligible for Working Holiday Visa in Canada, candidates must:

Be able to take out health insurance for the full duration of their Working Holiday Visa in Canada (participants may have to present evidence of this insurance at the point of entry in Canada). View providers and get quotes on our health insurance for Canada page.

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Seems like an awfully big hoop to jump through if you are NOT planning to stay in Canada.

 

[scoobyscoobydoo]

If you are not planning on working in Canada at all, and working remotely for a Canadian employer then you do not need a working holiday visa. You don’t need a Canadian bank account. Employer pays you to your Australian bank account.

This is blowing my mind hahaha. An Australian can just remotely apply for a Canadian job? Zero visas or work permits? I just give them Australian bank account info? Where do I pay taxes? Aus or Canada?
Is there a term for this? So I can further google

 

[scoobyscoobydoo]

Not really sure that I should even be commenting, since this is not an area that I've followed much, but...

https://moving2canada.com/immigration/iec/working-holiday-visa-in-canada

Eligibility:

To be eligible for Working Holiday Visa in Canada, candidates must:

Be able to take out health insurance for the full duration of their Working Holiday Visa in Canada (participants may have to present evidence of this insurance at the point of entry in Canada). View providers and get quotes on our health insurance for Canada page.

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Seems like an awfully big hoop to jump through if you are NOT planning to stay in Canada.

Whats the hoop? Just buy some insurance and that's it. Then I can travel and live in Latin America.

 

[Ponga]

Whats the hoop? Just buy some insurance and that's it. Then I can travel and live in Latin America.

How does having a WHV for Canada allow you to live in Latin America? While it may not be written that the WHV recipient is to be in Canada, using it to facilitate a plan that doesn't even [really] including being in Canada, seems like misrepresentation, but again...I don't have a dog in the fight. No offense, `Scooby'.