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Work Permit Expiring prior to prior to receiving AOR

canuck_in_uk

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canadavisa13 said:
Hi canuck_in_uk,

you are completely wrong the OP is not in canada illegaly he is OUT OF STATUS and he has a 90 days grace period to restore his status.
the two are different so do not confuse things and others unless you speak with a solid proof.
I am not wrong. Out of status means a person has no legal right to be in Canada and is therefore illegal.

To use your own words, don't confuse things and others.
 

canuck_in_uk

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canadavisa13 said:
yes you are wrong.....out of status and illegal are completely different...wanna beat on it?
They are the same thing. Also, you end a sentence with just one period. And the word is spelled "bet", not "beat", which has an entirely different meaning.
 

canuck_in_uk

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http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5551ETOC.asp

Under the heading "Determining eligibility":

It is illegal to remain in Canada beyond the validity of your status in Canada.

It is illegal to work without a required work permit.

It is illegal to study without a required study permit.
 

canadavisa13

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canuck_in_uk,

there is a difference between intending to stay illegal beyond the validity of your status and between applying to restore your status,the later is being considered to be OUT OF STATUS.
BTW you are not going to show me how to spell words in english,go teach your mama.....hahahahhahah
 

canuck_in_uk

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canadavisa13 said:
there is a difference between intending to stay illegal beyond the validity of your status and between applying to restore your status,the later is being considered to be OUT OF STATUS.
BTW you are not going to show me how to spell words in english,go teach your mama.....hahahahhahah
No there isn't. An intent to apply for restoration DOES NOT legalize a person's stay beyond expiry. A person is illegal until the restoration app is approved, which then retroactively legalizes their stay.

Example: A person's work permit expires and they stay another 40 days INTENDING to apply for restoration but then left Canada instead. Those 40 days were spent in Canada illegally.

My mother taught me to spell, giving me the knowledge needed to correct you. Grow up.
 

bcstudent14

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This other debate aside, is there any downside of applying as a visitor and then seeking out a LMO? Or rather, does having visitor status prevent me from obtaining a LMO work permit? I have two potential options for an LMO, but neither is a sure thing. Therefore, I wouldn't mind getting the visitor status early so that I don't end up in a situation that could jeopardize my PR application.
 

pfse

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bcstudent14 said:
This other debate aside, is there any downside of applying as a visitor and then seeking out a LMO? Or rather, does having visitor status prevent me from obtaining a LMO work permit? I have two potential options for an LMO, but neither is a sure thing. Therefore, I wouldn't mind getting the visitor status early so that I don't end up in a situation that could jeopardize my PR application.
Neither visitor status prevents you from obtaining LMO (not by you, but by your potential employer), nor it has any downside. Your potential employer should apply for LMO and once LMO is approved you can apply for WP by sending application to the visa office in New York.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/extend-stay.asp
 

canuck_in_uk

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bcstudent14 said:
This other debate aside, is there any downside of applying as a visitor and then seeking out a LMO? Or rather, does having visitor status prevent me from obtaining a LMO work permit? I have two potential options for an LMO, but neither is a sure thing. Therefore, I wouldn't mind getting the visitor status early so that I don't end up in a situation that could jeopardize my PR application.
As said above, no downside. Though you cannot work as a visitor, you are allowed to seek work, apply for jobs and go to interviews; once you have a job offer and LMO, you can apply for a work permit.
 

jes_ON

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BTW - since you were on a PGWP - it will be easier to get an LMO. Employers who apply for an LMO for someone on a PGWP are exempt from the advertising requirements. The 90-day "grace period" applies to this exemption as well - see the section on "Advertisement" -

http://www.esdc.gc.ca/eng/jobs/foreign_workers/higher_skilled/students/index.shtml
 

Yagerr

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About illegal or not, use the following scale:

If you were just on implied status and you successfully restored your status within 90 days, when you are filing other application, for question regarding if you have remain in canada illegally, you should answer "no".

Out of status != illegally stay

otherwise, whoever unfortunately fall into restoration would be consider staying in Canada illegally and it is a serious offence.
 

tarom

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Hi everyone,

I'm in a similar situation here, I will complete 12 months of employment next week and then apply under CEC for permanent residency. My work permit expires in a week as well (came to Canada under IEC) and I'm applying to extend my stay as a visitor after that. Based on other people's timelines I see that AOR for CEC usually takes about a month, so once I receive a positive answer, can't I apply from scratch for a new work permit as mentioned below:

ww w.cic.gc.ca/english/work/apply-who-eligible.asp

"Apply from inside Canada"

Thank you
 

canuck_in_uk

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tarom said:
I'm in a similar situation here, I will complete 12 months of employment next week and then apply under CEC for permanent residency. My work permit expires in a week as well (came to Canada under IEC) and I'm applying to extend my stay as a visitor after that. Based on other people's timelines I see that AOR for CEC usually takes about a month, so once I receive a positive answer, can't I apply from scratch for a new work permit as mentioned below:
Hi

Don't wait to apply to extend your stay as a visitor. If you apply even one day after your IEC expires, you will have to pay an additional $200 for restoration. Submit the app prior to your IEC expiring and you don't have to pay that $200.

A BOWP requires that an applicant have a valid work permit; after next week, you will be a visitor, so you will no longer qualify for a BOWP. You can ask if your current employer is willing to apply for an LMO; if it's positive, you could apply for a closed work permit.

Other than that, you can either remain in Canada as a visitor or return to your home country to wait for your CEC app to be processed.