Work Help Needed

[sunny5868]

Hey guys, I have a question. I put in my pre ITA EE profile that i was working for a hospital as a dentist (house job officer). I performed all the duties listed under the NOC for dentists except that the hospital doesn't pay any of their house officers. I was also working full time during the same period, as a full time dentist at a private dental clinic. But this job I didn't put it on my EE profile because I thought it wasn't necessary as I was claiming points by mentioning my house job at the hospital already.

Now the question is, should I mention my second job in the EE profile along with this one, because pay issue for the hospital job is making me a little nervous. P.S. Hospital would mention me as a full time dentist performing all the duties listed on the NOC for dentists. On the other hand, the other employer for the private clinic is ready to give me the reference letter as well, where I was paid. Please guide me through this.

All comments are welcome.

 

[ozlis]

Do you mean you were a volunteer in the hospital? So no payment at all?

 

[sunny5868]

Do you mean you were a volunteer in the hospital? So no payment at all?

No it's not volunteering or anything like that. It's a proper training after you graduate from the dental school. Most hospitals pay their house officers but mine doesn't since they are in demand and they leverage it by not paying their house officers since everyone wants to do their house job there. I worked as a full dentist, performing various dental services at all the hospital departments.

 

[ozlis]

No it's not volunteering or anything like that. It's a proper training after you graduate from the dental school. Most hospitals pay their house officers but mine doesn't since they are in demand and they leverage it by not paying their house officers since everyone wants to do their house job there. I worked as a full dentist, performing various dental services at all the hospital departments.

Right, I see.

It does specify that any skilled work must be paid, so I don't think that the hospital job would count for you. Take a look at the second bullet under work experience here:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/English/immigrate/skilled/apply-who.asp

 

[sunny5868]

Would it help if I list the other job as well for the same period in the post ITA EE profile along with the hospital job that I mentioned in my pre ITA EE profile?

 

[ozlis]

You would list the other job in the employment section instead of the hospital job. The hospital job could be mentioned in your personal history instead.

I can't remember if you can adjust the employment section post ITA or if that is locked down?

 

[21Goose]

If you're using this job to get points, you will need to prove you were paid.

CIC states > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-who.asp

paid work (volunteer work, unpaid internships do not count)


If you can remove it from your work history, and place it in your personal history, then you don't need to get proof of employment. And yes, you can change it post ITA

 

[sunny5868]

Right, I see.

It does specify that any skilled work must be paid, so I don't think that the hospital job would count for you. Take a look at the second bullet under work experience here:

Thanks. One of my friend who is in canada encouraged me to mention it since she kept insisting that it will count ( She just got her PR with her husband and told me that it did count). So thats why I am so confused about this.

Do you think listing my second job for the post ITA EE profile for the same time period can invite rejection to the PR application?

 

[ozlis]

Given it is the same role, just a different employer - you should be fine.

If you are worried, you can include a letter of explanation for the employment section to outline why it was swapped.

 

[sunny5868]

If you're using this job to get points, you will need to prove you were paid.



paid work (volunteer work, unpaid internships do not count)


If you can remove it from your work history, and place it in your personal history, then you don't need to get proof of employment. And yes, you can change it post ITA

Yes you are right. I am actually able to modify it in the application under work section (just tried that). Do you think its a cause of concern for them since Instead of the hospital, I'll be putting the clinic's name and mentioning the hospital in the personal history since I got points because of mentioning it. But my job at the clinic was essentially the same duties and same NOC, but paid!

 

[21Goose]

It's impossible to know for sure. If this change reduces your points below the cutoff, then yes, it's a problem.

If not, you should be ok if you can write a good LoE explaining why you did this, and your other job offers sufficient documentary evidence that you're not trying to pull a fast one.

This is somewhat unusual, so you can imagine that the CIC officer will raise an eyebrow. Make sure your letter from the private clinic covers everything, along with salary slips etc.

 

[sunny5868]

Given it is the same role, just a different employer - you should be fine.

If you are worried, you can include a letter of explanation for the employment section to outline why it was swapped.

I appreciate your reply. I was flying blindly about all this but I believe your are right. I should swap the name of the hospital with the clinic since my duties and NOC code, title and skill remained the same.

 

[ozlis]

I appreciate your reply. I was flying blindly about all this but I believe your are right. I should swap the name of the hospital with the clinic since my duties and NOC code, title and skill remained the same.

Make sure the dates are still accurate and add the letter to explain it, but yes it should be ok.

 

[sunny5868]

It's impossible to know for sure. If this change reduces your points below the cutoff, then yes, it's a problem.

If not, you should be ok if you can write a good LoE explaining why you did this, and your other job offers sufficient documentary evidence that you're not trying to pull a fast one.

This is somewhat unusual, so you can imagine that the CIC officer will raise an eyebrow. Make sure your letter from the private clinic covers everything, along with salary slips etc.

The change wouldn't reduce my points one bit, since the dates I worked at the clinic started the same day as my hospital work ( got the license to practice the same day LOL). I may have to personally meet the owner of the clinic and try to put as much convincing figures and elements as possible. Salary and benefits along with a good recommendation

 

[sunny5868]

Above all, I believe I need to tell the employer that there is a big change of CIC calling/emailing you since it's not a usual situation. I'll make sure he knows the details