work experience with a visitors record

[help4pr84]

Thank you. Is their a minimum salary i must be receiving on my t4 to qualify?

 

[scylla]

Thank you. Is their a minimum salary i must be receiving on my t4 to qualify?

Depends on the program.

You need to dedicate significant time to researching the various immigration programs if you are in fact serious about immigrating.

Good luck.

 

[help4pr84]

Thank you for the response.
i was trying to do express entry. I had originally put in my application a year ago but i didnt qualify s I was in 480 territory. With the info I have been learning today my score would go up to 540 territory which makes a much more attractive candidacy. How do I research minimum salary for express Entry?

 

[GandiBaat]

Thank you for the response.
i was trying to do express entry. I had originally put in my application a year ago but i didnt qualify s I was in 480 territory. With the info I have been learning today my score would go up to 540 territory which makes a much more attractive candidacy. How do I research minimum salary for express Entry?

For that you need to figure out your NOC code of your job (these days its called TEER I guess...). From NOC you can get an expected minimum salary for your job. The portion that I am a bit spektical is that of "stipend". Typically stipend is paid to students and sometimes it is a part of their education. So DO consult a professional like a lawyer to look into all details.

 

[GandiBaat]

For example.... My job is software engineer. That was the NOC that I used.

https://www23.statcan.gc.ca/imdb/p3VD.pl?Function=getVD&TVD=1322554&CVD=1322870&CPV=21231&CST=01052021&MLV=5&CLV=5

So I looked into the salary range for my NOC (21231)... https://www.jobbank.gc.ca/wagereport/occupation/5485

Vancouver Island and Coast Region	37.50	52.20	72.12

So min for me would be 37.50 per hour and a median expected on will be 52.20 per hour.

 

[forevermore76]

For that you need to figure out your NOC code of your job (these days its called TEER I guess...). From NOC you can get an expected minimum salary for your job. The portion that I am a bit spektical is that of "stipend". Typically stipend is paid to students and sometimes it is a part of their education. So DO consult a professional like a lawyer to look into all details.

There is no such thing as a "minimum wage requirement" for any NOC. OP has legitimate work experience and qualifies for EE.

Here's an answer directly from IRCC.
https://ircc.canada.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=665&top=29

This forum really baffles me sometimes.....

 

[forevermore76]

For example.... My job is software engineer. That was the NOC that I used.

https://www23.statcan.gc.ca/imdb/p3VD.pl?Function=getVD&TVD=1322554&CVD=1322870&CPV=21231&CST=01052021&MLV=5&CLV=5

So I looked into the salary range for my NOC (21231)... https://www.jobbank.gc.ca/wagereport/occupation/5485

Vancouver Island and Coast Region	37.50	52.20	72.12

So min for me would be 37.50 per hour and a median expected on will be 52.20 per hour.

This is garbage data in immigration. Smh.

 

[help4pr84]

This is garbage data in immigration. Smh.

It seems pretty straightforward then based on the website "but there is no minimum wage requirement for your qualifying work experience."!
What about the stipend is that an issue?

 

[forevermore76]

It seems pretty straightforward then based on the website "but there is no minimum wage requirement for your qualifying work experience."!
What about the stipend is that an issue?

Stipend is very common for clergy. Do you have paystubs or offer of employment which says how much salary or hourly you make? That's the number of hours you count towards EE for which you were compensated. Once again, doesn't matter HOW much you were paid..

 

[help4pr84]

Stipend is very common for clergy. Do you have paystubs or offer of employment which says how much salary or hourly you make? That's the number of hours you count towards EE for which you were compensated. Once again, doesn't matter HOW much you were paid..

Thank you for the response again.
I will have to check for the stubs and the job offer.

 

[GandiBaat]

There is no such thing as a "minimum wage requirement" for any NOC. OP has legitimate work experience and qualifies for EE.

Here's an answer directly from IRCC.
https://ircc.canada.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=665&top=29

This forum really baffles me sometimes.....

It is not as cut and dry. IRCC in past has rejected experience for CEC because of low salary stating that given experience is NOT eligible for CEC work experience. Most famous was Qin vs Canada case of 2013 (https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/fca/doc/2013/2013fca263/2013fca263.html). Court did dismiss the appeal and certified that

Question 1: Is it permissible for a visa officer to consider comparator salary data when assessing the nature of the work experience of an applicant who wishes to qualify as a member of the Canadian Experience Class, as described in section 87.1 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations, SOR/2002-227?

Answer: Yes

So yes, there is consideration for salary data but yes there is no minimum wage per-say. That being said, if your experience is under minimum wage paid to someone working in that NOC, it is better you explain to IRCC why your wages are lower than minimum seen in that region and NOC and how even after earning low wages your work experience fits the bill of eligible work EXP for CEC.

I will say, @help4pr84 get your case reviewed by someone who knows the law and past decisions (ie a Lawyer or a RCIC) because your case is not really typical which people do DIY here. Do get an opinion by a consultation at least and do not just dismiss it as certain arrogant poster here believes.

 

[GandiBaat]

This is garbage data in immigration. Smh.

See the post above, Canadian courts and judges disagree with you.

 

[forevermore76]

See the post above, Canadian courts and judges disagree with you.

You are a clown. Do you even understand what the case you have posted is about? Lol. It's not about setting a precedent for "comparing wage data".

Stop misguiding people.

 

[forevermore76]

It is not as cut and dry. IRCC in past has rejected experience for CEC because of low salary stating that given experience is NOT eligible for CEC work experience. Most famous was Qin vs Canada case of 2013 (https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/fca/doc/2013/2013fca263/2013fca263.html). Court did dismiss the appeal and certified that



So yes, there is consideration for salary data but yes there is no minimum wage per-say. That being said, if your experience is under minimum wage paid to someone working in that NOC, it is better you explain to IRCC why your wages are lower than minimum seen in that region and NOC and how even after earning low wages your work experience fits the bill of eligible work EXP for CEC.

I will say, @help4pr84 get your case reviewed by someone who knows the law and past decisions (ie a Lawyer or a RCIC) because your case is not really typical which people do DIY here. Do get an opinion by a consultation at least and do not just dismiss it as certain arrogant poster here believes.

Go read the case you posted again. The wage came in to question because duties were not consistent with NOC. The applicable standard is correctness.

[49] In my view, the visa officer did not treat Ms. Qin’s low salary as a disqualification in itself, because he also found that the description of her duties in the letter of reference was not consistent with NOC Code 1242: see also paragraph 25 of the affidavit of the visa officer in appeal book, at page 171.

You are spinning it in a completely different direction misguiding OP to believe that IRCC will reject application because of low wage.

Anyways, I am done responding to idiots like you.

 

[GandiBaat]

You are a clown. Do you even understand what the case you have posted is about? Lol. It's not about setting a precedent for "comparing wage data".

Stop misguiding people.

Which part am I misguiding? The part where I tell a person with an unusual situation to consult a professional before filing an application?

And please! If you have your JD in immigration law and hold RCIC quals, do post them.

What is being clown is having confidence without capabilities. People like that -- and you are indeed a prime example -- are danger to themself and others too.

The basic of any field and especially law is : if you are not sure and not qualified enough better consult a professional. Especially for life changing decisions like PR.