Withdrawing Idle Application

[anonymous88]

I would like to withdraw an idle online application which has now been idle for a month despite waiting time being 21-days. NOTHING has changed since I applied and everything is just showing the generic "We are processing your application"

MY PLAN

I would like to withdraw my application and re-apply under a different visa, and use my mom with her killer bank statements and business as an financial sponsor, for a visitor visa and then a student visa once in Canada. Im going to do it properly this time with affidavit / notarized letters from both invitee and financial sponsor. Instead of using my current crappy documents. Im also going to go paper route instead of online via one of the visa offices

MY QUESTION

If my application haven't been processed, or rather worked on yet, what will happen to the original scanned docs and info I submitted if I withdraw?
Will it still be kept on record and get compared against my new application?
Im asking since the new application will dramatically change.
I will move to my home country apply there and put myself as an employee at my moms business (which is rather well known and does pretty good) obviously there will be financials to backup the business income, networth etc.

Im only worried that it would look suspicious if I move to my home country, put my employee status as manager of my moms business and then apply immediately. Waiting a couple of months is NOT an option

I know it is a difficult question but any help much appreciated.

 

[Bryanna]

Hi,

I would like to withdraw an idle online application which has now been idle for a month despite waiting time being 21-days. NOTHING has changed since I applied and everything is just showing the generic "We are processing your application"

Your application is not idling in the Bangkok visa office LOL.

Based on your post, it's highly possible that your application is taking longer than the estimated processing time for TRV applications from Bangkok. It's possible that the visa office has sought additional information from your home country and/or the visa office is running background checks on you/your application.

I would like to withdraw my application and re-apply under a different visa, and use my mom with her killer bank statements and business as an financial sponsor, for a visitor visa and then a student visa once in Canada.

If you are employed and/or an adult, your mom's 'killer bank statements' won't help. On the contrary, it would do more harm to your TRV application as you won't be able to prove that you have strong employment ties nor a good financial situation.

Student visas must be applied from outside of Canada if your intended study program is more than 6 months.

Im going to do it properly this time with affidavit / notarized letters from both invitee and financial sponsor. Instead of using my current crappy documents.

Affidavits and notarized documents of the inviter and sponsor won't work as such documents cannot be enforced in practice.

If my application haven't been processed, or rather worked on yet, what will happen to the original scanned docs and info I submitted if I withdraw?
Will it still be kept on record and get compared against my new application?

Your current (not withdrawn) TRV application will continue to remain in the IRCC database for years and years to come.

Im asking since the new application will dramatically change.

You'll have huge red flags if your new application has dramatic changes compared to your current application.

I will move to my home country apply there and put myself as an employee at my moms business (which is rather well known and does pretty good) obviously there will be financials to backup the business income, networth etc.

IMO, this is a bad idea. Your employment would seem to be very recent = Weak employment ties = As you don't own your mom's business/not a shareholder, you cannot submit those financial documents as your own.

Also, if you attempt to backdate the employment in your mom's business, it would be misrepresentation.

Im only worried that it would look suspicious if I move to my home country, put my employee status as manager of my moms business and then apply immediately. Waiting a couple of months is NOT an option

Quite suspicious if you ask me


Cheers

 

[scylla]

I agree with all of the comments above. Your plan is bad and won't work. You are planning to lie in your application and fake employment. This is fraud and misrepresentation which carries a five year ban from Canada. CIC isn't stupid and have seen this a million times. They will have your original application on record and will see the fake work experience isn't listed there - it won't take much for them to figure out what's happening.

Also agree that affidavits are absolutely meaningless and useless.

If your intent is to study in Canada, you should be applying for a study permit from outside of Canada. If you apply for the study visa while in Canada as a visitor, you still have to send your application to a visa office outside of Canada and it's more difficult to be approved since it's hard to show ties to your home country and prove you have no plans on remaining in Canada long term if you are already in Canada.

 

[anonymous88]

IMO, this is a bad idea. Your employment would seem to be very recent = Weak employment ties = As you don't own your mom's business/not a shareholder, you cannot submit those financial documents as your own.

Also, if you attempt to backdate the employment in your mom's business, it would be misrepresentation.

Thank you for your very detailed answer I appreciate it more than you realize, its very kind of you -- Just a quick question if I may

1) If they are doing Background checks in my home country and / or country of residence surely I should get a notification. Under Background checks it shows: Not Applicable

2) What if my mom brings me in as a shareholder and let it (the business) be registered partially in my name?

3) What if my mom added me to her bank statement?

Surely the above would be enough to meet a strong financial case (not that im not meeting it right now, it would just make a much stronger case)

Furthermore with regards to my current application would you advice me to fill in a web form (forgot the proper name) which Ive read on this forum you should fill out after EST Time expired should I decide not to withdraw my application.

With Thanks
Tim

 

[Bryanna]

1) If they are doing Background checks in my home country and / or country of residence surely I should get a notification. Under Background checks it shows: Not Applicable

I've just seen that the estimated processing time for TRV applications at the BKK visa office is 20 days. You've just crossed it. You must be patient as this is only an estimate/guideline.

Maybe it's not a background check. Maybe the visa office has sought more information from your home country/any other country where you traveled to/resided.

2) What if my mom brings me in as a shareholder and let it (the business) be registered partially in my name?

3) What if my mom added me to her bank statement?

A huge no-no to both ideas. It will probably take only a microsecond for the visa officer to figure that you've added yourself as a shareholder/bank account holder just for the visa application.

Surely the above would be enough to meet a strong financial case (not that im not meeting it right now, it would just make a much stronger case)

Nope. You'll make your application to seem unconvincing.

Furthermore with regards to my current application would you advice me to fill in a web form (forgot the proper name) which Ive read on this forum you should fill out after EST Time expired should I decide not to withdraw my application.

Hold on for a few more days and then send a Case Specific Enquiry (IRCC Web form) to request for an expedited decision


Cheers

 

[anonymous88]

THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HELP A STRANGER -- Very specific and helpful. If I every meet you I owe you a beer

I've just seen that the estimated processing time for TRV applications at the BKK visa office is 20 days

Just a final question If I may, you seem very certain that my visa is getting processed at the Bangkok office however I have read on many threats that online applications can be processed anywhere in the world....Just curious about this.

Also just for a bit of additional info: Ive asked my employer but no one has contacted them with regards to asking about mt work situation etc, I did sent an employment letter (obviously) payslips, contract etc

 

[Bryanna]

ust a final question If I may, you seem very certain that my visa is getting processed at the Bangkok office however I have read on many threats that online applications can be processed anywhere in the world....Just curious about this.

I'm zero percent certain that your application is being processed by the BKK visa office. It could be processed anywhere as it is an online app

Also just for a bit of additional info: Ive asked my employer but no one has contacted them with regards to asking about mt work situation etc, I did sent an employment letter (obviously) payslips, contract etc

The visa office won't ask you for additional information unless they believe it is necessary. It's for the applicant to submit complete, convincing application upfront

 

[anonymous88]

It's for the applicant to submit complete, convincing upfront

@Bryanna one (two) last question pleasssseee
Just with regards to last quote I believe I submitted everything they asked for clearly and convincingly and had it checked by an agent, but thats outta scope....

• I applied on the 18th August which means my letters from employer granting leave from work, and my travel itinerary plus letter from host with regards to accommodation will now all be void considering dates have passed since VISA went over "due date" can this effect my (and anyone else's who is in the same boat) application?
• Also is filling out a IRCC Web form detrimental to your application?

Thank YOU for ongoing help!

 

[Bryanna]

• I applied on the 18th August which means my letters from employer granting leave from work, and my travel itinerary plus letter from host with regards to accommodation will now all be void considering dates have passed since VISA went over "due date" can this effect my (and anyone else's who is in the same boat) application?

TRV decisions are not given based on event or travel/intended vacation dates cited in the visa apps. So don't worry that these dates have passed.

• Also is filling out a IRCC Web form detrimental to your application?

No, not at all. It's normal to request for an expedited decision if the processing time has exceeded the posted time.

As visa offices tend to have high volumes of applications to process, IMO, it's only fair to give them a few more days/couple of weeks beyond the posted estimated processing times before dashing off CSEs

Hope for the best (and I suggest you do not withdraw your current application)

 

[anonymous88]

Hey @Brayanna so after your sound advice I have decided NOT to withdraw my application. Just one quick question for you though, I know I have been bombarding you...sorry!
Im gonna give it another week and then fill out a webform.
My question -- is IRCC Web Forms only applicable to paper based applications...? I had a look at the page and it sure looks so?