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Note that above where you sign the citizenship application, its states to make sure you meet the residency days on the day before the date you sign your application. That is why you hear people mention 1096 days in this forum instead of 1095. If you meet 1095 days on the day before the date you signed your application, then that is fine.
 

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belouna said:
I sent my application on march 2013, I passed the exam may 2014, the prob is when the agent verified my passport she discovered lot of mistakes on the application, example: I wrote that I traveled on 14march to 30 march but the reality was from 12 April to 29 April , but I accumulate 1095 of physical presence, I received the RQ tow days after exam, I answerd all question and I sent all the documents, now I doubt the reaction of the juge and if will he or she accept this kind of mistakes, it was just a mistake......now I think seriously to stop this application and start another, but I feel very upset I live in Canada since 2005 and I'm not able to be citizen cause of laws.....
1. You were processed under the new fast track route (for QC/ON applicants for what seems to be political expedience) that commenced in 2013 given you had tested within 14 months which is a real slap in the face from CIC and the political establishment to all pre 2013 applicants from QC/ON and all Non QC/ON applicants to date so even with a re-submission and a likely pre-test RQ you will likely be faster to re-apply.

2. Success of current case depends if CIC and the CJ now believe your now 'true' days. If you were working full time your current case would be stronger but if you were not all the CJ has to do is reasonably doubt with proof one day and you are into 1094 days and refusal territory.

3. As has been mentioned don't blame the laws - you rushed the application. Only you know how provable the new 'true' days are compared to the days for a fresh application so make your decision based on this and the knowledge that a fresh application with 1095+ provable days will eventually succeed.
 

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Hi Msafiri, can you verify my comment preceding your post? That is what I've heard and understood but I'd like confirmation on that. Thanks!
 

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keesio said:
Note that above where you sign the citizenship application, its states to make sure you meet the residency days on the day before the date you sign your application. That is why you hear people mention 1096 days in this forum instead of 1095. If you meet 1095 days on the day before the date you signed your application, then that is fine.
You sign on day 1096. Day 1095 is only a full and complete day at midnight as per Citizenship Act and normal description of a day as the 24 hrs from midnight to midnight.
 

belouna

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Msafiri said:
1. You were processed under the new fast track route (for QC/ON applicants for what seems to be political expedience) that commenced in 2013 given you had tested within 14 months which is a real slap in the face from CIC and the political establishment to all pre 2013 applicants from QC/ON and all Non QC/ON applicants to date so even with a re-submission and a likely pre-test RQ you will likely be faster to re-apply.

2. Success of current case depends if CIC and the CJ now believe your now 'true' days. If you were working full time your current case would be stronger but if you were not all the CJ has to do is reasonably doubt with proof one day and you are into 1094 days and refusal territory.

3. As has been mentioned don't blame the laws - you rushed the application. Only you know how provable the new 'true' days are compared to the days for a fresh application so make your decision based on this and the knowledge that a fresh application with 1095+ provable days will eventually succeed.
I'm not a full time worker but I had 2 children during this period and I restart school soon, so u advice me to restart a new application?
 

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belouna said:
I'm not a full time worker but I had 2 children during this period and I restart school soon, so u advice me to restart a new application?
You need to make your decision on if you can prove the true 1095 days you declared in the RQ. What proof of residence did you submit? Did you work in any of the 1095 days? Did you file taxes? How many times did you travel? How did you manage financially - savings etc. These are very personal questions so its hard to give you a concise answer without your revealing this.
 

keesio

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Msafiri said:
You sign on day 1096. Day 1095 is only a full and complete day at midnight as per Citizenship Act and normal description of a day as the 24 hrs from midnight to midnight.
Got it. Thanks for the clarification!
 

belouna

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Msafiri said:
You need to make your decision on if you can prove the true 1095 days you declared in the RQ. What proof of residence did you submit? Did you work in any of the 1095 days? Did you file taxes? How many times did you travel? How did you manage financially - savings etc. These are very personal questions so its hard to give you a concise answer without your revealing this.
Thank you for clarification, yes I worked just 6 months on this period and I was searching for work the rest of the period, and I got married and had 2 kids, I submitted my taxes return for 4 years, I sent my bank transactions and my leases and some bills, medical files for me and kids,
But don't you think that mistakes made on the submission could affect my credibility and my application could me refused by consequence

Please can you just precise to me that the fact that I wrote 14 march instead 20 April and 10 September instead 19 September could influence the juge decision
 

belouna

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Finally I decide to withdraw my application and restart a new one, could I send proof of residence from the beginning or should I wait for the RQ
Thx
 

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I would say, just send two things - Proof Employment Records and Leasing/home ownership info.



belouna said:
Finally I decide to withdraw my application and restart a new one, could I send proof of residence from the beginning or should I wait for the RQ
Thx
 

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Also, how do you know that you have less days?

Did CIC mention in the RQ explicitly that you have less days or you are just assuming? May be since you submitted RQ, Citizenship judge reviews it and considers that you made an error grants you citizenship?


belouna said:
Finally I decide to withdraw my application and restart a new one, could I send proof of residence from the beginning or should I wait for the RQ
Thx
 

belouna

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vinaypuri said:
Also, how do you know that you have less days?

Did CIC mention in the RQ explicitly that you have less days or you are just assuming? May be since you submitted RQ, Citizenship judge reviews it and considers that you made an error grants you citizenship?
vinaypuri said:
Also, how do you know that you have less days?

Did CIC mention in the RQ explicitly that you have less days or you are just assuming? May be since you submitted RQ, Citizenship judge reviews it and considers that you made an error grants you citizenship?
No they didn't but I'm just worried about the worst, also I discovered today that I had just 1093 days in my possession, I traveled to north Africa so the day of landing over there is one day more than when we leave from canada and I'm based on my passport stamps so in fact it's two days less than what i calculated, two trips so two days less ....I don't know I don't want wait two more years and be disappointed after all this time
 

Msafiri

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Thank you for clarification, yes I worked just 6 months on this period and I was searching for work the rest of the period, and I got married and had 2 kids, I submitted my taxes return for 4 years, I sent my bank transactions and my leases and some bills, medical files for me and kids,
But don't you think that mistakes made on the submission could affect my credibility and my application could me refused by consequence

Please can you just precise to me that the fact that I wrote 14 march instead 20 April and 10 September instead 19 September could influence the juge decision
The difference between 14 March and 20 April is 35 days (non inclusive) and that between 10 September and 19 September is 9 days (non inclusive) so try explaining to a CJ or even CIC that you 'confused' 44 days and I believe it will be a hard sell especially if the error gives you more physical days which it does. I see that you've revised your actual days to 1093 - withdrawal and re-submission seems the right choice.
 

belouna

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Hi msafari, could you help me plz, finally I decided to withdraw my application, can I send documents proving my residence like leases and medical files or other proof of residence with my new application?
Thx