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will off campus work permit still be valid after graduation?

chad108

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Hi there,

I am going to have all my final exams at the end of April. and i accepted a part time job, which was supposed to be a full time, because i am still an international student with off campus work permit. and i was able to negotiate with my boss to allow me to work part time till i could apply for my post-graduate work permit.

I have couples of questions. firstly, when will be my official date in terms of graduation, the day i finish my last exam? the day all my scores out? or the day i receive my graduate certificate? secondly, after i finish my final exams, will i still legally able to work part time by holding my off campus work permit till i have all the documents (final transcript, graduate certificate) to apply post-graduate work permit. Thirdly, will i be legally able to work full time after all my exams?

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It's all on your PGWP, go read it.
 

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thepilot said:
It's all on your PGWP, go read it.
I did read the PGWP on the cic website. however it doesnt specifically state the gap between finishing school and starting applying for the PGWP. and the off-campus work petmit states that we could work full time during the break of two semesters. Do you know where i could find out the information about this?

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chad108 said:
Hi there,

I am going to have all my final exams at the end of April. and i accepted a part time job, which was supposed to be a full time, because i am still an international student with off campus work permit. and i was able to negotiate with my boss to allow me to work part time till i could apply for my post-graduate work permit.

I have couples of questions. firstly, when will be my official date in terms of graduation, the day i finish my last exam? the day all my scores out? or the day i receive my graduate certificate? secondly, after i finish my final exams, will i still legally able to work part time by holding my off campus work permit till i have all the documents (final transcript, graduate certificate) to apply post-graduate work permit. Thirdly, will i be legally able to work full time after all my exams?

Thank you
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/temp/students/post-grad.asp

"Applicants must apply for a work permit within 90 days of receiving written confirmation (e.g., an official letter or transcript) from the educational institution indicating that they have met the requirements for completing their program of study. Calculation of the 90 days begins the day the student’s final marks are issued or the day formal written notification of program completion is received, whichever comes first."

I would go with the same criteria (issuance of final marks, or written notification of program completion). You can work full time from that point on, until you get your PGWP.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1181&top=15
 

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jes_ON said:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/temp/students/post-grad.asp

"Applicants must apply for a work permit within 90 days of receiving written confirmation (e.g., an official letter or transcript) from the educational institution indicating that they have met the requirements for completing their program of study. Calculation of the 90 days begins the day the student’s final marks are issued or the day formal written notification of program completion is received, whichever comes first."

I would go with the same criteria (issuance of final marks, or written notification of program completion). You can work full time from that point on, until you get your PGWP.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1181&top=15
This is still a grey area though is it not given the implication is that can only start work pending a decision once the PGWP application has been submitted and not work in between the period full time education has completed and that submission point ? The key point being submitting the PGWP application and until that happens although study permit is still valid no longer in education having completed so cannot officially work in that in between period.

If I got it wrong I apologise but thats way I understood it given completion is not same as a semester break where you could work but can start work once the PGWP application is submitted not before.
 

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Bs65 said:
This is still a grey area though is it not given the implication is that can only start work pending a decision once the PGWP application has been submitted and not work in between the period full time education has completed and that submission point ? The key point being submitting the PGWP application and until that happens although study permit is still valid no longer in education having completed so cannot officially work in that in between period.

If I got it wrong I apologise but thats way I understood it given completion is not same as a semester break where you could work but can start work once the PGWP application is submitted not before.
There is a bit of contradictory and confusing information out there, I agree. There used to be an explicitly defined 3 month period after finishing studies during which you could work full-time. That language has disappeared, and in its place is the 3 month period during which you can apply for a PGWP.

"They can continue to work off campus provided that they hold a valid study permit and have applied for a work permit under the PGWPP."

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/temp/students/work-off-campus.asp

The implication is, if you do not apply for the PGWP, you no longer get those 3 months. The other implication is, you should apply for the PGWP as early as possible BEFORE graduating.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/temp/students/post-grad.asp

"Note: Paragraph 186(w) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (IRPR) allows students who have completed their program of study to work while they are waiting for a decision on their work permit application, as long as they were a full-time student enrolled at a designated learning institution (DLI) in a post-secondary academic, vocational or professional training program and they did not exceed the allowable hours of work."

Hope this helps.
 

ndubois67

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Hi,
I am in the exact same situation. Please let me know if you have found an answer to this. All the best!
 

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Ok here is what I did at the time of my graduation:
  • 1-2 weeks after you finish all your exams, you should be able to request a letter from your Registrar's Office stating you have satisfied all graduation requirements and you are just waiting for the convocation ceremony to get the diploma.
  • With this letter, you could start applying to IRCC for PGWP, before your graduation ceremony.
  • Either you count 90 days from the issuance of that letter, or the ceremony, because PGWP is processed quite fast (30-40 days currently), you will get your new WP before the 90 ends.
  • And technically, because after your exam, you are in "summer vacation", so you can start working full time.
  • And finally, make sure to read the expiration date and the footnote on your study permit or off campus WP as each individual might have specific limitations that are different from mine.
Hopefully this helps. Cheers.
 

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  • And technically, because after your exam, you are in "summer vacation", so you can start working full time.
There is no "summer vacation" once you finish your studies. It is not a scheduled break and does not allow a person to work.
 

ndubois67

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My question is can I continue working (let’s say part time) after finishing my exams but before getting my grades/proof that I will graduate?
 

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Hi there,

I am going to have all my final exams at the end of April. and i accepted a part time job, which was supposed to be a full time, because i am still an international student with off campus work permit. and i was able to negotiate with my boss to allow me to work part time till i could apply for my post-graduate work permit.

I have couples of questions. firstly, when will be my official date in terms of graduation, the day i finish my last exam? the day all my scores out? or the day i receive my graduate certificate? secondly, after i finish my final exams, will i still legally able to work part time by holding my off campus work permit till i have all the documents (final transcript, graduate certificate) to apply post-graduate work permit. Thirdly, will i be legally able to work full time after all my exams?

Thank you
Hi!!

Were you able to figure out if working FULL TIME the period between last day of exams and acquiring documents for proof of graduation is legal for international students? Because technically, it should be, right? Given there is no academic session during the period? Thank you for sharing!
 

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Hi all. I am now in the same situation and would appreciate guidance from people who have been through this. So I have 2 questions.
I am graduating in December and am getting an on-campus Teaching Asistant Job in my university. Can I work as a TA on campus with out a work permit but a 'valid' study permit as my program will take 1 month to give us a letter of completion to apply for PGWP. (I checked the cic website but cant find info on this)
Second question is I received a full time conditional offer so can I work for the off campus employer as soon as I apply for PGWP. Also can I work for both (part time and full time) at the same time.

Thanks alot for your help in advance. I am so confused.
 

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Hi all. I am now in the same situation and would appreciate guidance from people who have been through this. So I have 2 questions.
I am graduating in December and am getting an on-campus Teaching Asistant Job in my university. Can I work as a TA on campus with out a work permit but a 'valid' study permit as my program will take 1 month to give us a letter of completion to apply for PGWP. (I checked the cic website but cant find info on this)
You can't graduate before confirmation of program completion - can you clarify?
"They may work until the first date they receive written confirmation of program completion from their educational institution (for instance, an email, a letter, a transcript or a diploma)," Same is true for on or off-campus. The good news is, you can submit your PGWP application the same day, and then be authorized to work.


Second question is I received a full time conditional offer so can I work for the off campus employer as soon as I apply for PGWP. Also can I work for both (part time and full time) at the same time.

The PGWP is an open work permit, you can work two jobs if you want.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/questions-answers-by-topic.asp?st=15.3

Can I apply for a post-graduation work permit before I get my diploma?
"To apply for a post-graduation work permit, you must have completed and passed your program of study and received notification that you are eligible to get your degree, diploma or certificate (for example, a transcript or an official letter). You do not have to wait until you physically receive your diploma or attend your graduation ceremony before you apply.

You must apply before your study permit expires."

Can I work while I am waiting to receive my post-graduation work permit?
"You can work full-time while waiting for a decision on your post-graduation work permit application if, at the time you submitted your application, you:
  • had a valid study permit,
  • had completed your program of study,
  • were eligible to work off-campus without a permit, and
  • did not work off-campus more than 20 hours a week during academic sessions."
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https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/temporary-residents/study-permits/campus-work.html

Off-campus work and completion of a program of studies

"Students who have not applied for a subsequent study or work permit or a program of study
Students may work off campus on a part-time basis if the following applies:

  • they meet the eligibility criteria to work off campus [R186(v)]
  • they have completed the final academic requirements for their program of study but have not yet received written confirmation of program completion from their institution (for instance, a transcript, an official letter or an email)
  • they have not applied for a work permit (for instance, a post-graduation work permit or a work permit with a valid Labour Market Impact Assessment) or a study permit extension or enrolled in a subsequent program of study
They may work until the first date they receive written confirmation of program completion from their educational institution (for instance, an email, a letter, a transcript or a diploma), provided their study permit remains valid during this period. If the study permit becomes invalid [as per R222] before the student receives the notification of program completion from their institution, the student must cease working the day the study permit becomes invalid.

Once a student receives written confirmation of program completion from their institution, they are no longer authorized to continue to work in Canada, as they no longer meet the eligibility criteria in paragraph R186(v). They should apply to change their status (for instance, to visitor status) or leave Canada before their study permit becomes invalid as per section R222."
 
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