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woken.caveman

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Hello, my wife went home for holidays for two months, and we're now feared that she might have trouble returning because of her inland application, i.e., she was supposed to stay in Canada until her immigration visa was issued.
My wife is not required a visa to visit Canada, and she is traveling with our Canadian baby son.
We are eager to know what she should say at the border. Should she say she is returning to family? Does CBSA officers at the border have any information about her pending PR application?
Please let us know your advices and/or experiences. Thanks so much.
 

chandu007

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CBSA officer will definitely know about PR application and I don't recommend telling lies to the officer.
 

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Why did she risk leaving Canada?

If she had a really good reason, family illness or similar and shows proof, like a Doctors note, then she may be allowed back into Canada. Otherwise, the IO may well reject her entry and then the Inland application is void.

You may have to seriously think about reapplying Outland.
 

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angelbrat said:
Why did she risk leaving Canada?

If she had a really good reason, family illness or similar and shows proof, like a Doctors note, then she may be allowed back into Canada. Otherwise, the IO may well reject her entry and then the Inland application is void.

You may have to seriously think about reapplying Outland.
I wonder why people take the risk?
 

angelbrat

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Baloo said:
I wonder why people take the risk?
No idea....I know I would not have dared leave Canada during the process, even for a day trip to the States shopping.

I believe, many people just do not read, understand or bother to follow CIC guidelines. Perhaps because for many people, who find English hard to understand, the instructions are too complicated.

Then they should use rejessome to help.... ;D ;D ;D
 

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angelbrat said:
No idea....I know I would not have dared leave Canada during the process, even for a day trip to the States shopping.

Likewise, why risk it.

I believe, many people just do not read, understand or bother to follow CIC guidelines. Perhaps because for many people, who find English hard to understand, the instructions are too complicated.

Good points.

Then they should use rejessome to help.... ;D ;D ;D

Of course - WHY NOT :)
 

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OP, I'm far from an expert but it's spelled out in the guide: see the box at the bottom of this page.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5289E10.asp

It sounds like you're going to have to roll the dice. (You do realize that your wife could have been called at any time for an interview at your local visa office inside Canada while she was away on vacation?)

angelbrat said:
No idea....I know I would not have dared leave Canada during the process, even for a day trip to the States shopping.

I believe, many people just do not read, understand or bother to follow CIC guidelines. Perhaps because for many people, who find English hard to understand, the instructions are too complicated.

Then they should use rejessome to help.... ;D ;D ;D
I've been considering putting together a wiki with answers for specific cases. Has this been done in the past?
 

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This OP posted this question 4 months ago. I would bet his wife and child are back in Canada by now.

When you apply inland and choose to travel outside of Canada, you have to remember that we are NOT all treated equally when it comes to the ability to re-enter Canada. The box on the page uccemebug noted specifically points out where the more serious difficulties lie. Foreign nationals from visa exempt countries or those with a valid visitor's visa will have an easier time re-entering Canada even though they have an inland application in process. At the POE, showing proof that the inland application is in process will help a great deal. Plus this woman has a Canadian child with her. Now, if the woman was NOT visa exempt and did NOT have a valid TRV, her chances of getting a new TRV to be allowed re-entry are next to nil, UNLESS, as angelbrat pointed out, there was a specific and urgent reason for her travel. Even in that case, it would be recommended that they apply for a new TRV before leaving Canada so they would know if they could re-enter.

Not travelling while an inland application is in process is a RECOMMENDATION, not a RULE. It can and has been done lots of times but there are risks and a person should be well prepared at the POE as well as knowing what the consequences may be. There are reasons people choose to take the Inland route when applying for PR to Canada and specific policy associated with it. However, there are lots of people whom, IMHO, wrongly choose the inland route when outland would have been a better choice for them. That being said, each application and process that goes with it is assessed INDIVIDUALLY and there is no "catch-all" that fits everybody. Be careful with that. I know the government tries to say that this stuff is easy but there is a LOT of consideration that has to go into every stage to be truly well informed and then weighed against each person's own personal circumstances. What fits them may not fit you.
 

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rjessome said:
This OP posted this question 4 months ago. I would bet his wife and child are back in Canada by now.
Ehhh, did not notice that. (-_-')

rjessome said:
Foreign nationals from visa exempt countries or those with a valid visitor's visa will have an easier time re-entering Canada even though they have an inland application in process.

Not travelling while an inland application is in process is a RECOMMENDATION, not a RULE. It can and has been done lots of times but there are risks and a person should be well prepared at the POE as well as knowing what the consequences may be.
This is what the fellow at the CIC call centre told me this morning when I called about my own circumstance (http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/departing-canada-during-an-outland-application-t68832.0.html).

rjessome said:
each application and process that goes with it is assessed INDIVIDUALLY and there is no "catch-all" that fits everybody. Be careful with that. I know the government tries to say that this stuff is easy but there is a LOT of consideration that has to go into every stage to be truly well informed and then weighed against each person's own personal circumstances. What fits them may not fit you.
Thanks for this helpful post. We wrap ourselves up far too tightly about things in this country sometimes. I'll make sure that my wife has a printout of our application and takes along our Canadian son if and when she goes back to Japan for a visit. ಠ_ಠ
 

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rjessome said:
When you apply inland and choose to travel outside of Canada, you have to remember that we are NOT all treated equally when it comes to the ability to re-enter Canada. The box on the page uccemebug noted specifically points out where the more serious difficulties lie. Foreign nationals from visa exempt countries or those with a valid visitor's visa will have an easier time re-entering Canada even though they have an inland application in process. At the POE, showing proof that the inland application is in process will help a great deal. Plus this woman has a Canadian child with her. Now, if the woman was NOT visa exempt and did NOT have a valid TRV, her chances of getting a new TRV to be allowed re-entry are next to nil, UNLESS, as angelbrat pointed out, there was a specific and urgent reason for her travel. Even in that case, it would be recommended that they apply for a new TRV before leaving Canada so they would know if they could re-enter.

Not travelling while an inland application is in process is a RECOMMENDATION, not a RULE. It can and has been done lots of times but there are risks and a person should be well prepared at the POE as well as knowing what the consequences may be. There are reasons people choose to take the Inland route when applying for PR to Canada and specific policy associated with it. However, there are lots of people whom, IMHO, wrongly choose the inland route when outland would have been a better choice for them. That being said, each application and process that goes with it is assessed INDIVIDUALLY and there is no "catch-all" that fits everybody. Be careful with that. I know the government tries to say that this stuff is easy but there is a LOT of consideration that has to go into every stage to be truly well informed and then weighed against each person's own personal circumstances. What fits them may not fit you.

Always a personal choice, and as usual with visitors and immigration, no guarantees.

Being aware of the risk and being prepared is the best option, IF you really have to travel.