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emarti...

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May 11, 2014
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MAY 8 2014 MI WIFE Had her interviewed, she was denied to get her visa ,I had live in Canada for 19 years
she was refused because she is 25 years younger the mi. the consul believe it is a fixed marriage because
my family new her family ,,I am 48 at this moment ,she is 23 , her father died 4 years ago, my father died in 1984
only 30 years ago. my mother died 13 years ago,
I can believe how far from the news the consular is,
I will appeal and probe to immigration the age is not for equal age only
.a woman from regina sask who was 54 years OLd went to CUBA AND MARRIED A 32 YEARS OLD MAN
HE HAD NO PROBLEMS GETTING ALLOWED VISA .

TWO YEARS AGO MY NIECE WHEN TO EL SALVADOR AND MARRIED A MAN
SHE APPLIED IN FEBRUARY AND HE GOT HIS VISA IN JULY ,5 MOTHS AFTER ,NO INTERVIEW OR ANYTHING ELSE ,
HE ONLY GOT AN E-MAIL SAYING HE HAD MAIL , IT WAS HIS VISA, BUT SHE BELONG TO THE MAJORITY ,
CANADIAN PEOPLE BELONGING TO THE MAJORITY HAVE NOT PROBLEMS AT ALL,
WE THE MINORITY CLASS SUFFER MANY PROBLEMS

BECAUSE I LOVE MI DEAR WIFE ,
I MAY REVOKE MY CITIZENSHIP TO CANADA AND SELL MI HOUSE,TAKE MY PENSION AND GO
TO LIVE WITH HER IN EL SALVADOR ,
AT THIS MOMENT I AM VERY ASHAMED OF IMMIGRATION
WHEN I TOOK THE CITIZENSHIP OATI SWORE TO THE CREATOR NOT TO LIED TO CANADA ,
AND HERE AM I HALF OF Y LIFE HAS BEEN WRECKED
 

zelhdjt

Hero Member
Oct 29, 2013
751
2
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-07-2013
AOR Received.
17-08-2013
File Transfer...
27-08-2013
Med's Done....
21-06-2013
Passport Req..
26-04-2014
VISA ISSUED...
11-06-2014
LANDED..........
17-07-2014
emarti... said:
MAY 8 2014 MI WIFE Had her interviewed, she was denied to get her visa ,I had live in Canada for 19 years
she was refused because she is 25 years younger the mi. the consul believe it is a fixed marriage because
my family new her family ,,I am 48 at this moment ,she is 23 , her father died 4 years ago, my father died in 1984
only 30 years ago. my mother died 13 years ago,
I can believe how far from the news the consular is,
I will appeal and probe to immigration the age is not for equal age only
.a woman from regina sask who was 54 years OLd went to CUBA AND MARRIED A 32 YEARS OLD MAN
HE HAD NO PROBLEMS GETTING ALLOWED VISA .

TWO YEARS AGO MY NIECE WHEN TO EL SALVADOR AND MARRIED A MAN
SHE APPLIED IN FEBRUARY AND HE GOT HIS VISA IN JULY ,5 MOTHS AFTER ,NO INTERVIEW OR ANYTHING ELSE ,
HE ONLY GOT AN E-MAIL SAYING HE HAD MAIL , IT WAS HIS VISA, BUT SHE BELONG TO THE MAJORITY ,
CANADIAN PEOPLE BELONGING TO THE MAJORITY HAVE NOT PROBLEMS AT ALL,
WE THE MINORITY CLASS SUFFER MANY PROBLEMS

BECAUSE I LOVE MI DEAR WIFE ,
I MAY REVOKE MY CITIZENSHIP TO CANADA AND SELL MI HOUSE,TAKE MY PENSION AND GO
TO LIVE WITH HER IN EL SALVADOR ,
AT THIS MOMENT I AM VERY ASHAMED OF IMMIGRATION
WHEN I TOOK THE CITIZENSHIP OATI SWORE TO THE CREATOR NOT TO LIED TO CANADA ,
AND HERE AM I HALF OF Y LIFE HAS BEEN WRECKED
Im sorry to hear that.. But before going to give up everything you have build and earned in canada try to make an appeal to the embassy, it might be a different case if you will.

Have a plan A and Plan B and weigh everything everytime you make a big decision.
 

aminata2010

Star Member
Jun 22, 2010
162
5
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
03-25-2014
AOR Received.
05/02/2014
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
01/31/2014
I believe El Salvador allows dual citizenship...also as the last poster stated...you should seek other avenues before making a drastic move as that..also be very aware of how your spouse might act once you tell her you are willing to give up everything to come and live with her( it might not be in her game plan) just playing devil's advocate..either way good luck to you.
 

taffy7

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May 23, 2013
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Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10th April 2014/June 10th 2014 application complete
Doc's Request.
09 June 2014 same doc's requested again 6th Oct 2014. docs not needed again mistake by cic
AOR Received.
sponsorship approval 05 Aug 2014
File Transfer...
05 Aug 2014
Med's Request
28 July 2015
Med's Done....
30th Dec 2013
Passport Req..
in process 18th July 2015/ DM 5/12/2015
LANDED..........
28/12/2015
You are very upset right now and i understand that you are angry with immigration .Souses get refused for many reasons yours is the age gap with is a huge red flag . Be prepared to move to El Salvador with your wife.You may want to keep your options open and wait a few years, then if you both still want to live in Canada apply again .

I have lived here for 28 years and i love Canada but if my husband don't get P.R. i am moving back with him .He is fine about it either way as long as we spend the rest of our life together . Have you talked to your wife about this option. She may not want you to give up your life here.

If my daughter came home with a man 25 years older than her and he was from any country i would have my concerns too about immigration. Huge huge red flag for me personally.
 

truesmile

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Jun 7, 2012
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MNL
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App. Filed.......
25-05-2012
AOR Received.
18-07-2012
File Transfer...
24-07-2012
Med's Done....
18-05-2012
Interview........
WAIVED
Passport Req..
05-12-2012
VISA ISSUED...
08-01-2013
LANDED..........
02-02-2013
Agree with all. Don't do anything rash. By all means, "move" to El Salvador, see how that goes. You don't need to revoke anything to do that. You never know, unfortunate circumstances vary greatly how they affect people. You may catch or suffer from something later on in life that you prefer to take advantage of Canada's health system for. It's a nice option to have.
 
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mikeymyke

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taffy7 said:
You are very upset right now and i understand that you are angry with immigration .Souses get refused for many reasons yours is the age gap with is a huge red flag . Be prepared to move to El Salvador with your wife.You may want to keep your options open and wait a few years, then if you both still want to live in Canada apply again .

I have lived here for 28 years and i love Canada but if my husband don't get P.R. i am moving back with him .He is fine about it either way as long as we spend the rest of our life together . Have you talked to your wife about this option. She may not want you to give up your life here.

If my daughter came home with a man 25 years older than her and he was from any country i would have my concerns too about immigration. Huge huge red flag for me personally.
You see taffy7, it's people like you who I have tremendous respect for, and people like your husband too. You know why? Your husband, who is a foreign national, married you because he wanted to be with you, not to get PR, which is a big goal (not necessarily a primary goal) for some people. I've seen many people here who come to Canada after being sponsored, and when their marriage breaks down mutually, they always ask, "How can I keep my PR?", which leads me to believe getting PR status was a big part of getting married to a Canadian. When I told my wife about it, she just laughed a lot and joked about it and said, "Hey if I come to Canada and leave you, maybe I should go on the forum and ask how to keep my PR :D :D". Because you know, she does not give a rat's behind whether she lives in Canada or Vietnam, and neither do I. I'm more than willing to go live in her country if her PR fails, which I highly doubt it will anyway. I love Canada, but I love my wife more.

This is my personal opinion alone, but I feel that a true genuine marriage should mean both the sponsor and applicant should be willing to live in either country, whether the PR application fails or not. I mean if you think about it, what if your spouse was refused PR, do you think that's the right thing to do to divorce them simply because they cannot accompany you to Canada? No of course not, the right thing to do is to march your butt over to where they live and live with them. From the applicant's side, the primary reason for marrying your sponsor is because you want to be with him right? So if the marriage breaks down, wouldn't the logical thing to be to return home?

I just kinda shake my head sometimes when I see couples do not have a Plan B for living in the applicant's country because they're so deadset on living in Canada with no alternative plans. I know it sucks to have a 3rd party judge the genuineness of your relationship, but nothing in life is perfect, and everyone needs to prepare for the worst.

As for you, emarti, I'm sorry about your refusal, but there has to be more to your refusal than just the age difference. They don't just refuse on just one red flag alone, unless it was something extremely serious. You must've had more red flags. Maybe on the interview, your spouse gave contradicting answers. Or your parents did not attend wedding. Or you guys don't have enough relationship evidence, etc etc. It's admirable that you say you're willing to give up Canada to be with your wife, but you also have to see what your wife feels about that. You have to put your personal feelings aside, and just ask your wife straight up, if she's willing to live in her country or not should the appeals fail.

I know sometimes people take things personally when they get a refusal. "Why they say we are not genuine? I know my wife would never marry me for Canada!", and yet they ignore red flags like the age difference, or the fact she has relatives in Canada, is constantly dating Canadians, etc. When people are in love, they tend to ignore all the bad things, and just focus on the good. But at the same time, people need to get their heads on straight and just take a look at the big picture. Why were my wife's last 2 ex boyfriends Canadian? Why does she have so many relatives in Canada, and now she be with me? Why does she not seem happy when we talk about living in her country? She's young enough to be my granddaughter, why would she be interested in marrying an old fart like me? etc

emarti you also talk about the other case where the couple had a large age difference but were accepted. They probably had enough relationship proof to satisfy the officer, passed the interview by answering the questions satisfactorily, and maybe the age difference was their only negative.

Anyway, I wish you good luck emarti, don't need to be so rash with your decision making, just go live with your spouse while the wait time for the appeal is going on. Don't do something so serious as taking your pension, selling your assets and then moving to live with your wife. What if your wife wants to live in Canada and isn't happy with what you're doing? You need to figure this out for yourself, seeing as how much younger she is than you.

And as for you taffy7, I applaud and commend you and your husband for your truly genuine marriage, and as a Canadian, I'm proud to call you my fellow countryman.
 

Avadava

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Oct 11, 2013
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FAM
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Vienna
App. Filed.......
December 3, 2013
AOR Received.
Stage 1 AOR + SA January 8, 2014
File Transfer...
January 12, 2014
Med's Request
Further Medical Tests Requested: October 24, 2013
Med's Done....
October 15, 2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
October 20, 2014
VISA ISSUED...
October 27, 2014
LANDED..........
January 17, 2015
@ mikeymyke: Although I agree with most of what you posted above, I believe is not as straight forward as it seems in relation to "Marriage breaks down, move to your country and don't ask how to keep your PR."
In my opinion, it greatly depends on the situation. My husband and I have first met in '99. We've been married for 5 years and have been living together in Germany. I am Romanian, and when I left my country to be with him, I made huge sacrifices. Left family behind, came to a place where I didn't know anything. Although I didn't go through the immigration process (I am a EU citizen), I still found a lot of hardship: language barrier, culture shock, new to the job market, etc. It took me some time to adapt but now after 5 years I'm stable here in Germany. Got a good job, learned the language and made new friends and acquaintances.
If our marriage would break down now, I'm not sure I would go back to Romania, because I wouldn't know where to start there.

I didn't want to go to Canada when I married my husband. He kept insisting in the beginning, saying: "You knew I was Canadian when you married me". He finally accepted we remain in Europe, Germany is a well off country and is much closer to my home country than Canada.

One of the main reasons I changed my mind now and I want to move to Canada, is because my dearest mother in law. She is all alone and sick, increasingly in need of assistance with simple things like grocery shopping. Since she is too old to move to Germany, we are now moving to Canada.

Bottom line, sometimes is not the immigration status that a person would like to keep after a marriage breakdown. In my case, would be the social network, the job, etc. for which I worked hard when I was only a new immigrant.
 

emarti...

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May 11, 2014
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thank you all you guys ,I will appeal before the big move,, my wife lost her 3 brothers relationship
by marrying me , she had considered taking her life is I leave her down, she took care of her life and body
for me ,since the first moment I sow her I liked her and she fall in love with me at first meeting , the consul
asked her for prove of support $$$$$ and communication she told her she had seen the profile and there is not
proof I talk to her or
support her ,I sent every paper needed in the application , some times I think while
foreign affairs was on strike some papers may have been missing. but I have about 400 pages os text messages
as we text many times a day and she phone me 2 or more hours a day,
plus about 600 hours of phone calls logs plus all the support tabs
the consul told her ,( in a marriage the husband
should be at least 3 months with the wife) I work full time doing maintenance in the educational building system
in town and can be away more then my vacation time, also it has to be in the months of the summer because we have to
had the building ready for the next school year ,plus I work 6 hours 7 days a week in another place to be able to
keep my mortgage a float , ,
thanks a lot for you comments
thank for your comments