why GTA office so fast

[suresure]

why GTA office process so fast? seems like other province too slow?

why?

people applied in 2014 already finished everything, I applied in sep 2013, still waiting, why

 

[us2yow]

which is your local office ?

 

[Flocan]

please do not forget that applicants had to pay doubles fees as from 6th February 2014! ($400 instead of $200)

 

[admontreal]

please do not forget that applicants had to pay doubles fees as from 6th February 2014! ($400 instead of $200)

Yes I agree. But how come this rapidity in processing applications does apply to some offices only? But not all of them? When you have a budget increase you dispatch it in an equal manner. So why do we have 6 months of process in Scarborough while it still takes 19 months in Montreal???

 

[Flocan]

Might depend on the number of officers and citizenship judges, but I agree, it is not fair!

 

[2c]

please do not forget that applicants had to pay doubles fees as from 6th February 2014! ($400 instead of $200)

I am willing to pay 1000 to expedite the process.

 

[screech339]

I am willing to pay 1000 to expedite the process.

The problem with this approach, it will create a two tier system. The rich or those who can afford 1000 to expedite the process and those who don't. Those that do will get to the front of the queue while those who don't have to wait for the expedited applications to be finished first before even their get looked at. You know that CIC will look after those who pay the 1000 dollar first over those who don't.

Screech339

 

[2c]

The problem with this approach, it will create a two tier system. The rich or those who can afford 1000 to expedite the process and those who don't. Those that do will get to the front of the queue while those who don't have to wait for the expedited applications to be finished first before even their get looked at. You know that CIC will look after those who pay the 1000 dollar first over those who don't.

Screech339

very valid point but at the same time services provided by federal government should be at the same level through out the country.

in Ontario processing time is with in one year and in Alberta minimum 2 years easy.

 

[screech339]

very valid point but at the same time services provided by federal government should be at the same level through out the country.

in Ontario processing time is with in one year and in Alberta minimum 2 years easy.

I think a lot of it has to do with how many manpower staff each provinces have. Since Ontario has one of the largest population of immigrants, it stand to reason that more citizenship judges, staff are needed in Ontario. It may be distributed based on population of each provinces. You can't expect PEI to have as many citizenship judges, staff as Ontario.

Screech339

 

[2c]

I think a lot of it has to do with how many manpower staff each provinces have. Since Ontario has one of the largest population of immigrants, it stand to reason that more citizenship judges, staff are needed in Ontario. It may be distributed based on population of each provinces. You can't expect PEI to have as many citizenship judges, staff as Ontario.

Screech339

for whole PEI one judge would be enough.

 

[Msafiri]

1. Citizenship Judge numbers are roughly in the correct ratio with ON having 50% of the CJ bench and 50% of citizenship applicants so this is mostly a red herring issue with the exception of a 1 CJ region where if the CJ is sick, on vacation, retires etc there can be a distinct impact on oath timelines.

2. Delay is due to lack of resource at non GTA Local CICs - number of officers is not in the right ratio for number of cases. See how many GTA offices CIC closed versus non GTA offices closed during the financial cutbacks in Q2 2012 just as OB407 and the RQ regime was coming to force!

3. Simplistic but reliable proof of 2 is the difference between the 'In Process to test' timeline versus the 'test to oath' timeline at the non GTA offices. In GTA its a narrower range at say 3 months to 1 month versus in non GTA it can be 20 months for the latter and one month for the former.

 

[QAI]

why GTA office process so fast? seems like other province too slow?

why?

people applied in 2014 already finished everything, I applied in sep 2013, still waiting, why

2012 are also still waiting

 

[Michels]

It is simply a conservatives discrimination against Quebec who overwhelmingly votes NDP or Liberals all the time.
Can someone simply also explain why a person who passes the test in Mississauga gets the Oath letter on the spot and swears 2 days afterwards while Montreal it takes 3-4 month from test to Oath?!

And tell me this is not discrimination as I do not want to say lack of efficiency.. lack of efficiency is when it is 2-3 10 times longer but not 2 days vs 120 days!

 

[Pureminded]

It is simply a conservatives discrimination against Quebec who overwhelmingly votes NDP or Liberals all the time.
Can someone simply also explain why a person who passes the test in Mississauga gets the Oath letter on the spot and swears 2 days afterwards while Montreal it takes 3-4 month from test to Oath?!

And tell me this is not discrimination as I do not want to say lack of efficiency.. lack of efficiency is when it is 2-3 10 times longer but not 2 days vs 120 days!

I'm not from GTA but please 2 days from test to oath is AN EXCEPTION. You can go back to GTA spreadsheets to see how the average wait time is.

Applicants from Montreal are just average if you take all provinces into consideration, there's no political game in this process. GTA is rather fast simply because there are enough judges to deal with the rather important demand (GTA is the #1 destination for immigrants in Canada).

I rather feel pity for applicants from remote areas like SK, MB who really suffer through the process without even getting RQed.

 

[BLT]

I think it is happening like this :
Average percentage of applicants :
For example,
Toronto : 50%
Alberta : 10%
So the manpower in Toronto's office is 50 people and in Alberta 10 people. But what currently happening, is that number of applicants in Toronto is 100 and Alberta 98. So that's why Toronto is faster. The waiting time will be the same if Toronto has 100 applicants and Alberta only has 20.