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Does anyone have friend in CIC ?


Could you share some information about why old CEC so slow now ?


What's the real reason ?
 

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yixiaop26 said:
Does anyone have friend in CIC ?


Could you share some information about why old CEC so slow now ?


What's the real reason ?
Million dollar question....& all of us are looking for some answer....
 

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Unfortunately this is what usually happens when there's a new system coming in: the old applications get lower priority. EE applications are moving fast right now with most resources diverted to them. The government always wants to show the new system they just implemented works very well. So they want nice statistics compared to the old system...
 

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ZingyDNA said:
Unfortunately this is what usually happens when there's a new system coming in: the old applications get lower priority. EE applications are moving fast right now with most resources diverted to them. The government always wants to show the new system they just implemented works very well. So they want nice statistics compared to the old system...
Reasonable. But old FSW and PNP are moving at a faster pace despite the lower priority. Late December FSW applicants are getting their stamped passports back as we speak. CEC, it seems, is getting the lowest priority. Wonder why..
 

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I don't see validity of CIC diverting more staff to work on EE applications slowing CEC down. There were no more CEC applicants since January 2015; EE replaced CEC. Technically CIC is still working on the same volume of applications and there are no good excuse of slowing down.

Besides, only a few hundreds EE applicants has become PR since January 2015, this ratio is less than 1% out of all applicants entering the pool. This ratio surely shows efficiency and it works well, doesn't it?

My worry is not so much on CIC slowing down, rather it is on whether CIC is planning to complete August/September/October 2014 applications, or not. It is not likely but not impossible. The worst case would be say, CIC don't process these applications ever, and 1 year from now when everyone's WP expires, CIC announces that the August/September/October 2014 CEC applications will not be processed. If CIC is going to be despicable, I would rather let them be despicable now rather than later, so that I would still have the PNP option.

-nn
 

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CIC is giving us punishment that we applied in CEC. Really they are looking differently to CEC applicants.
Seems like they note something different in CEC applicants that is why they giving us punishment for applying in CEC.
 

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EE has a service guarantee - application has to be processed within 6 months. Old CEC doesn't have service guarantee, so they have no limits on how much they can delay it, so EE will always take priority if there is even a smallest risk of them not meeting the 6 months deadline.
 

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still no new findings . :(


The reason list :

Vacation --> it can slow , but why only CEC slow to almost stop , even summer is running out now .

VO shift EE --> it will take some VO, But EE only hundreds case done now , and still can't explain why other old FSW is quick.


They hate CEC , then why ? if they hate CEC, then they should hate all of others too. all the official VO should be trained, they shouldn't bring personal emotion in work .

someone even doubt the totally number for 2015 is running out , but EE only took hundreds, all the left half year application in EE should be done and counted in 2016 .


someone even doubt , they want create complain , so they can reform again . if so why only slow CEC .
 

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FSW was always faster than CEC before EE. I'm not sure why. Maybe FSW applications are easier to process, or FSW has more VO's looking into them. PNP is a little different as there could a lot extra time to get the nomination first.

It does seem the trend continues in EE that FSW still gets processed significantly faster..

zareef said:
Reasonable. But old FSW and PNP are moving at a faster pace despite the lower priority. Late December FSW applicants are getting their stamped passports back as we speak. CEC, it seems, is getting the lowest priority. Wonder why..
 

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ZingyDNA said:
FSW was always faster than CEC before EE. I'm not sure why. Maybe FSW applications are easier to process, or FSW has more VO's looking into them. PNP is a little different as there could a lot extra time to get the nomination first.

It does seem the trend continues in EE that FSW still gets processed significantly faster..
always faster ? are you sure about this ? how faster ? how long you observe them together. why I feel previously is FSW run a while then CEC run a while, then FSW again , this time only FSW is running .

and is not just faster, it super faster than CEC now.
 

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ZingyDNA said:
FSW was always faster than CEC before EE. I'm not sure why.
I really don't know how you came to that conclusion, that has never been true. If you look at processing times for FSW at all the visa offices, the mean is 20 months (range 5-45 months). That is a visa office-level mean, not an individual mean, but the point is the same. FSW had 3 streams before, and could be processed at many different visa offices, some of which were faster than others. There's no way you can generalize about FSW other than to state that CEC has generally been much faster.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/English/information/times/perm/skilled-fed.asp

If you only look at FSW applications processed at Ottawa, the processing time is 11 months. A very high proportion of those eligible for processing at Ottawa would likely be under the "Arranged Employment" (FSW2) stream, meaning they had LMO-approved permanent job offers - and yes, those received highest priority processing, followed by PNP and CEC, and then the other FSW streams.
 

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I don't see validity of CIC diverting more staff to work on EE applications slowing CEC down. There were no more CEC applicants since January 2015; EE replaced CEC. Technically CIC is still working on the same volume of applications and there are no good excuse of slowing down.

Besides, only a few hundreds EE applicants has become PR since January 2015, this ratio is less than 1% out of all applicants entering the pool. This ratio surely shows efficiency and it works well, doesn't it?

My worry is not so much on CIC slowing down, rather it is on whether CIC is planning to complete August/September/October 2014 applications, or not. It is not likely but not impossible. The worst case would be say, CIC don't process these applications ever, and 1 year from now when everyone's WP expires, CIC announces that the August/September/October 2014 CEC applications will not be processed. If CIC is going to be despicable, I would rather let them be despicable now rather than later, so that I would still have the PNP option.

-nn
the possibility for this is smaller and smaller

a: some oct application from french , Israel are done , so it means they planed to finish all of the cased, but there is a priority issue .

b: there only 8.9 10 month left, it is not reasonable to trigger an event which can be blamed by outside in furious. especially, the NEW EE have CEC ongoing .

and most of CEC application are international students which is one of the income source of this country . it will serious damage this country's image .

c: recently lots of case marked start process , it means maybe started and in queue of certain VO's desk . but they still have lots of backlog before July, that is why you can see July have some update recently.

however , if we talk about backlog FSW have backlog too , have application from European too.

why CEC in lowest priority .


one evil analysis : mots of CEC are students , when they slow down CEC, slow down work permit too , make your work permit expired, so you have to go back home country .
 

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yixiaop26 said:
the possibility for this is smaller and smaller

a: some oct application from french , Israel are done , so it means they planed to finish all of the cased, but there is a priority issue .

b: there only 8.9 10 month left, it is not reasonable to trigger an event which can be blamed by outside in furious. especially, the NEW EE have CEC ongoing .

and most of CEC application are international students which is one of the income source of this country . it will serious damage this country's image .

c: recently lots of case marked start process , it means maybe started and in queue of certain VO's desk . but they still have lots of backlog before July, that is why you can see July have some update recently.

however , if we talk about backlog FSW have backlog too , have application from European too.

why CEC in lowest priority .


one evil analysis : mots of CEC are students , when they slow down CEC, slow down work permit too , make your work permit expired, so you have to go back home country .
Guys,

What so ever was the case before and now with CEC and FSW.

Conclusion is that we applied in CEC and we are waiting. But keep hope with Almighty this patience will bring In Sha ALLAH good results for us not only for PR also for our future. Because its God commandment to be patience always. I know its really difficult for myself and all of us. But its true :)
 

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I think I just knew the FSW cases processed in Canada, all of which were prolly in the FSW2 stream you mentioned. I didn't know the other FSW streams were quite different. If the other FSW streams that were slower than CEC before, now becomes faster after EE, then it IS pretty strange...

jes_ON said:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/English/information/times/perm/skilled-fed.asp

If you only look at FSW applications processed at Ottawa, the processing time is 11 months. A very high proportion of those eligible for processing at Ottawa would likely be under the "Arranged Employment" (FSW2) stream, meaning they had LMO-approved permanent job offers - and yes, those received highest priority processing, followed by PNP and CEC, and then the other FSW streams.
 

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cecpet said:
Guys,

What so ever was the case before and now with CEC and FSW.

Conclusion is that we applied in CEC and we are waiting. But keep hope with Almighty this patience will bring In Sha ALLAH good results for us not only for PR also for our future. Because its God commandment to be patience always. I know its really difficult for myself and all of us. But its true :)

I just hope if someone know CIC officer or be friends with them, share some information to tell what is ongoing .

sometime , too weird means something is happening .

weird like the animal behavior before earthquake .